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victim blaming?

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#1
uwukitten

I think it's a bit weird for her to wait until they qualify before saying this but even if she intended it maliciously, is that really wrong? if I was in her place I wouldn't wanna see them succeed either. it's a bad move since she also impacts 4 other players who did nothing wrong if he gets disqualified this late, but other than that it doesn't makes her accusations any less valid. in any case, it's impossible for them to be more than accusations due to the nature of the case so I think it's bad to cast judgement on either party here

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Been seeing all of this Flashback stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"

Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.

I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.

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nutab1e [#2]

Been seeing all of this Flashback stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"

Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.

I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.

meds

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ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

meds

Won't be surprised if flashback sues this guy for defamation

Dude is so awfully and weirdly consistently trying to resurface and concentrate on an incident that needs to be investigated and confirmed by drx against absolutely baseless claims

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nutab1e [#4]

Won't be surprised if flashback sues this guy for defamation

Dude is so awfully and weirdly consistently trying to resurface and concentrate on an incident that needs to be investigated and confirmed by drx against absolutely baseless claims

that mibr flair is turning me on holy shit

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This was the same thing i pointed out with psion, but sadly i was cancelled and thats okay but i would appreciate if no one from vlr harasses any DRX player or starts judging them, (also as said by drx on twitter) till we have anything confirmed. This isnt victim blaming, whoever the person is, why did she wait till now? Why did she tell the internet its someone from drx, but not their name? These are not things that take place randomly. There is a reason behind everything. Again before someone cancels me, im neutral on this, and im waiting for the offical notice, tilll now drx has said they found nothing wrong.

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ArtemisZ083 [#6]

This was the same thing i pointed out with psion, but sadly i was cancelled and thats okay but i would appreciate if no one from vlr harasses any DRX player or starts judging them, (also as said by drx on twitter) till we have anything confirmed. This isnt victim blaming, whoever the person is, why did she wait till now? Why did she tell the internet its someone from drx, but not their name? These are not things that take place randomly. There is a reason behind everything. Again before someone cancels me, im neutral on this, and im waiting for the offical notice, tilll now drx has said they found nothing wrong.

Hey psi0n I heard you like em young

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ArtemisZ083 [#6]

This was the same thing i pointed out with psion, but sadly i was cancelled and thats okay but i would appreciate if no one from vlr harasses any DRX player or starts judging them, (also as said by drx on twitter) till we have anything confirmed. This isnt victim blaming, whoever the person is, why did she wait till now? Why did she tell the internet its someone from drx, but not their name? These are not things that take place randomly. There is a reason behind everything. Again before someone cancels me, im neutral on this, and im waiting for the offical notice, tilll now drx has said they found nothing wrong.

psion is irrelevant .I dont blame her for trying to ruin his year considering what he to her the answers are in front of you.legal constraints.

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Tryeue2 [#8]

psion is irrelevant .I dont blame her for trying to ruin his year considering what he to her the answers are in front of you.legal constraints.

again stop blaming him(the player) till anything is confirmed...

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nutab1e [#7]

Hey psi0n I heard you like em young

nutab0e's gonna steal 'em all one by one

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Tryeue2
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ArtemisZ083 [#9]

again stop blaming him(the player) till anything is confirmed...

im not gonna frame this in legalese i cbb he may or may not be innocent if he isnt innocent everything she has done till now is justified fuck the player for doing that.

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Tryeue2 [#11]

im not gonna frame this in legalese i cbb he may or may not be innocent if he isnt innocent everything she has done till now is justified fuck the player for doing that.

tryeue im having multiple strokes trying to read what you're saying rn r u ok man?

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Tryeue2 [#11]

im not gonna frame this in legalese i cbb he may or may not be innocent if he isnt innocent everything she has done till now is justified fuck the player for doing that.

For doing what? Even if he isnt innocent, i would frame them both, her case is literally baseless, both of them are equally at fault..

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Hynix [#12]

tryeue im having multiple strokes trying to read what you're saying rn r u ok man?

I miss Tryeue1

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Hynix [#12]

tryeue im having multiple strokes trying to read what you're saying rn r u ok man?

yeah i cant phrase for shit ill edit it after a nap the gist is that if the allegations are true the victim's actions are completely justified in my eyes

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Tryeue2 [#15]

yeah i cant phrase for shit ill edit it after a nap the gist is that if the allegations are true the victim's actions are completely justified in my eyes

if he is proven guilty
Innocent untill proven guilty holy fuck

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tomato211222 [#16]

if he is proven guilty
Innocent untill proven guilty holy fuck

yeah 😭 is that not what i said

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LouBag
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is this what happened or am i missing something?

Two teenagers have sex

She lets him have intercourse with her and not wear a condom.

"Please pull out"

he doesnt pull out

She doesnt say anything to anyone.

He cheats on her

she gets mad and tells people "His pull out game is weak"

lots of people try and get him canceled and ruin his career.

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LouBag [#18]

is this what happened or am i missing something?

Two teenagers have sex

She lets him have intercourse with her and not wear a condom.

"Please pull out"

he doesnt pull out

She doesnt say anything to anyone.

He cheats on her

she gets mad and tells people "His pull out game is weak"

lots of people try and get him canceled and ruin his career.

this is what she's claiming happened yes

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ArtemisZ083 [#13]

For doing what? Even if he isnt innocent, i would frame them both, her case is literally baseless, both of them are equally at fault..

If he isn't innocent they are not both equally at fault wtf

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LouBag [#18]

is this what happened or am i missing something?

Two teenagers have sex

She lets him have intercourse with her and not wear a condom.

"Please pull out"

he doesnt pull out

She doesnt say anything to anyone.

He cheats on her

she gets mad and tells people "His pull out game is weak"

lots of people try and get him canceled and ruin his career.

yeah kids these are crazy and fucking be a gentleman and apologize for insemination and treat her properly and dont enter into relationship because you are guilty
bro is kid in this type of shit but a pro in valorant proper PR training needed from DRX

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I think this is a troll from a translator. The ambiguous statement and omitted translation distort this situation.

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LouBag [#18]

is this what happened or am i missing something?

Two teenagers have sex

She lets him have intercourse with her and not wear a condom.

"Please pull out"

he doesnt pull out

She doesnt say anything to anyone.

He cheats on her

she gets mad and tells people "His pull out game is weak"

lots of people try and get him canceled and ruin his career.

Potentially getting someone pregnant should not be treated as an oopsie

The fact that people arent considering the consequences of that, both physical and psychological is precisely why breaking boundaries like that should be taken as seriously as it is, regardless of how serious it may sound to you or whether you even understand why

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Nachtel [#23]

Potentially getting someone pregnant should not be treated as an oopsie

The fact that people arent considering the consequences of that, both physical and psychological is precisely why breaking boundaries like that should be taken as seriously as it is, regardless of how serious it may sound to you or whether you even understand why

For most men only violent forced Penetration is rape. They dont understand how it really works.

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Conceit [#20]

If he isn't innocent they are not both equally at fault wtf

They are

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Nachtel [#23]

Potentially getting someone pregnant should not be treated as an oopsie

The fact that people arent considering the consequences of that, both physical and psychological is precisely why breaking boundaries like that should be taken as seriously as it is, regardless of how serious it may sound to you or whether you even understand why

don't have sex without a condom if you're afraid of getting pregnant. its called pull and pray for a reason. even if you pull out your risk of getting pregnant is HUGE.

She clearly wasnt worried enough to not have sex.

she clearly wasnt worried enough to make him wear a condom.

it sounds like two teenagers being teenagers and engaging in risky behavior.

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Nachtel [#23]

Potentially getting someone pregnant should not be treated as an oopsie

The fact that people arent considering the consequences of that, both physical and psychological is precisely why breaking boundaries like that should be taken as seriously as it is, regardless of how serious it may sound to you or whether you even understand why

that is why you take to her to a professional and get the medicine and take care if her and apologize properly for that mistake

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nutab1e [#2]

Been seeing all of this Flashback stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"

Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.

I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.

I'm glad someone finally addressed the elephant in the room

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Congo1 [#24]

For most men only violent forced Penetration is rape. They dont understand how it really works.

but it is for men here we are talking about 18 year old kids
he is only morally wrong for inseminating her without permission and cheating on her because he entered into a relationship with her because he was guilty about the incident with her
proper braindead decision from the player

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nutab1e [#2]

Been seeing all of this Flashback stuff on vlr, and really, I just feel like everyone is missing the main point. I saw one of his streams a while back, I think he was duoing with Zekken? Might've been with someone else, but I remember watching him play Sova on icebox when suddenly and without warning, my mind went completely blank, and the only thought in my head was, "Could I fit Sacy's head inside my ass?"

Maybe it was just the comely sheen off his dome, but something about that shining bespectacled orb gave the deep, inescapable feeling that this world would be better off with that head firmly inserted into my rectum. Sexuality be damned this; this was a spiritual impulse! Like Abraham before the bush; like Moses on Mount Sinai; like Whoopi Goldberg holding the script for Sister Act 2, God has given me my task.

I called Gustavo, thinking this might be an unreasonable proposition, his candid response however, intrigued me: "yeah," he said, "but can we do it in the porch area of a local Starbucks?" I asked him why, and he told me that six other people had already asked to do this, and he had done those at Starbucks, and if he brought in a seventh he would get a free salted caramel latte. I asked if he could get me one too, but he said they're just for him.

"Your aim is insane." nutab1e said, as he slipped his feminine hand into Sacy's pants and smirked. "Are you trying to spray me?" protests Sacy, as nutab1e blushes, the boyish figure undressed before Sacy. "Weak ass eco play, nutab1e." The two kissed, deeply and passionately, and afterwards Sacy dropped his Sova arrow into nutab1e's open bombsite.

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LouBag [#26]

don't have sex without a condom if you're afraid of getting pregnant. its called pull and pray for a reason. even if you pull out your risk of getting pregnant is HUGE.

She clearly wasnt worried enough to not have sex.

she clearly wasnt worried enough to make him wear a condom.

it sounds like two teenagers being teenagers and engaging in risky behavior.

If I rob you in the street is it your fault for carrying valuables on you?

Putting yourself in a vulnerable situation does not make the perpetrator any less wrong for taking advantage of you.

Since they were dating, it's especially bad because she only put herself in that vulnerable state because she decided to place her trust in him--being vulnerable with each other is a thing lovers do after all.

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tomato211222
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Tryeue2 [#17]

yeah 😭 is that not what i said

my bad i misunderstood man sorry

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Nachtel [#31]

If I rob you in the street is it your fault for carrying valuables on you?

Putting yourself in a vulnerable situation does not make the perpetrator any less wrong for taking advantage of you.

Since they were dating, it's especially bad because she only put herself in that vulnerable state because she decided to place her trust in him--being vulnerable with each other is a thing lovers do after all.

they were not dating until he inseminated her afaik correct if i am wrong though
so both are in wrong if they are having their first intercourse without a condom

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Nachtel [#31]

If I rob you in the street is it your fault for carrying valuables on you?

Putting yourself in a vulnerable situation does not make the perpetrator any less wrong for taking advantage of you.

Since they were dating, it's especially bad because she only put herself in that vulnerable state because she decided to place her trust in him--being vulnerable with each other is a thing lovers do after all.

Mistakes are also a thing that happen in relationships.

your comparison is shit because it assumes he went into the act thinking "Im gonna bust in that bitch no matter what!!"

We can assume that's not the case since she still wanted to be with him afterwards.

it was only after he cheated on her that she decided to "Get revenge".

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LouBag [#34]

Mistakes are also a thing that happen in relationships.

your comparison is shit because it assumes he went into the act thinking "Im gonna bust in that bitch no matter what!!"

We can assume that's not the case since she still wanted to be with him afterwards.

it was only after he cheated on her that she decided to "Get revenge".

the last point is what makes this so scuffed. is it true, is it fabricated, is it just because of revenge? its very easy to say something that is hard to prove, so idk.

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LouBag [#34]

Mistakes are also a thing that happen in relationships.

your comparison is shit because it assumes he went into the act thinking "Im gonna bust in that bitch no matter what!!"

We can assume that's not the case since she still wanted to be with him afterwards.

it was only after he cheated on her that she decided to "Get revenge".

Whether mistake or intentional, the severity of the result is the same.

Me 'accidently' vs intentionally running someone over should not make me exempt from the consequences of doing so

She trusted him and if he wasn't sure if he could pull out or not, then he should've stopped thinking with his dick and declined to go through with it entirely.

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ArtemisZ083 [#25]

They are

I agree, it's stupid, but he's still the one who in this scenario did it, and if it's true, she would still be the victim. And believe it or not, you're victim blaming

God you're so fucking weird man constantly going to bat for this kind of shit

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uwukitten
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jojo57 [#22]

I think this is a troll from a translator. The ambiguous statement and omitted translation distort this situation.

yeah I'm talking about the whole "ejaculated inside" when he was told not to thing

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ArtemisZ083 [#6]

This was the same thing i pointed out with psion, but sadly i was cancelled and thats okay but i would appreciate if no one from vlr harasses any DRX player or starts judging them, (also as said by drx on twitter) till we have anything confirmed. This isnt victim blaming, whoever the person is, why did she wait till now? Why did she tell the internet its someone from drx, but not their name? These are not things that take place randomly. There is a reason behind everything. Again before someone cancels me, im neutral on this, and im waiting for the offical notice, tilll now drx has said they found nothing wrong.

You literally tanked the hate for psion for no reason lol
Psion wasnt getting that much of hate, but YOU of course had to fking say that he was "innocent" 20 times, which made a lot of people mad

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AltonBu02 [#30]

"Your aim is insane." nutab1e said, as he slipped his feminine hand into Sacy's pants and smirked. "Are you trying to spray me?" protests Sacy, as nutab1e blushes, the boyish figure undressed before Sacy. "Weak ass eco play, nutab1e." The two kissed, deeply and passionately, and afterwards Sacy dropped his Sova arrow into nutab1e's open bombsite.

BRO WTF

#41
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Conceit [#37]

I agree, it's stupid, but he's still the one who in this scenario did it, and if it's true, she would still be the victim. And believe it or not, you're victim blaming

God you're so fucking weird man constantly going to bat for this kind of shit

Tell me, she didnt have any problem before, but after she was cheated upon, she reports then. Seems like she is trying to get back at him. And that too when he has champs opportunities? How is this valid from her?

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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whatever happens, DRX's reputation is down the drain

#43
jubby
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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#42]

whatever happens, DRX's reputation is down the drain

Fr, regardless of whether the accused is innocent and the victim is guilty, people are going to look at DRX very negatively.

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jubby [#43]

Fr, regardless of whether the accused is innocent and the victim is guilty, people are going to look at DRX very negatively.

somebody's definitely getting kicked for this

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#44]

somebody's definitely getting kicked for this

Yeah, I think more than likely DRX will be forced to suspend/drop the accused player but idk if they will before or after champs.

#46
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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jubby [#45]

Yeah, I think more than likely DRX will be forced to suspend/drop the accused player but idk if they will before or after champs.

termi is getting fired for this too

he wanted Flashback to be on the team

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#46]

termi is getting fired for this too

he wanted Flashback to be on the team

I think it's unlikely for termi to get fired over this, he easily has the argument that the team was doing better in the server with Flashback, and can easily feign ignorance over the situation unless there is conclusive evidence otherwise

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fun_at_the_waterslide [#47]

I think it's unlikely for termi to get fired over this, he easily has the argument that the team was doing better in the server with Flashback, and can easily feign ignorance over the situation unless there is conclusive evidence otherwise

still, there is a possibility of him getting fired ocer this. The higher ups aren't happy at all

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ArtemisZ083 [#41]

Tell me, she didnt have any problem before, but after she was cheated upon, she reports then. Seems like she is trying to get back at him. And that too when he has champs opportunities? How is this valid from her?

You don't know if she had a problem before or not. Also I know that if a person did this thing to me, I would want them to not be successful in their career. Them doing this at an "opportune time" doesn't say anything about whether or not their truthful.

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Disastered
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loapoarg [#29]

but it is for men here we are talking about 18 year old kids
he is only morally wrong for inseminating her without permission and cheating on her because he entered into a relationship with her because he was guilty about the incident with her
proper braindead decision from the player

18 year old is a adult, no acceptions.

#51
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Disastered [#50]

18 year old is a adult, no acceptions.

18 year olds are still little kids man

#52
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x_knowitall39_x [#51]

18 year olds are still little kids man

not in a legal sentiment though.

#53
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LouBag [#18]

is this what happened or am i missing something?

Two teenagers have sex

She lets him have intercourse with her and not wear a condom.

"Please pull out"

he doesnt pull out

She doesnt say anything to anyone.

He cheats on her

she gets mad and tells people "His pull out game is weak"

lots of people try and get him canceled and ruin his career.

don’t forget the part where they weren’t even dating when the incident happened, she even wanted to finally confirm the relationship, and he was actually the one that was skeptical, the cheating part is also not confirmed, all that was mentioned in the text messages was that he kept in touch with her, and didn’t tell his ex about the gf. The reason i say this was unconfirmed is bc, she didn’t have any text message proof for that, it was just a statement she made.

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#48]

still, there is a possibility of him getting fired ocer this. The higher ups aren't happy at all

bro everyone is saying the higher ups aren't happy but how do yall know did they make a statement or something

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Conceit [#49]

You don't know if she had a problem before or not. Also I know that if a person did this thing to me, I would want them to not be successful in their career. Them doing this at an "opportune time" doesn't say anything about whether or not their truthful.

Yo, i was victim blaming huh?

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