How has Sentinals qualified for champs through Champ Points if Sen and 100T both have the same number of Champ Points(12) and 100T defeated Sen in the Playoffs to move ahead?
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boilin_cockroach [#2]2-1 h2h throughout the season
Is Kickoff also considered? Shouldn't they consider only the most recent result?
Jihan03 [#5]Is Kickoff also considered? Shouldn't they consider only the most recent result?
Well then what would be the point of kickoff other than just to earn a couple of points
GodAwfulGod [#6]Well then what would be the point of kickoff other than just to earn a couple of points
A game from 5 months ago should not matter now
if you're saying kick off shouldn't be considered then there's no point of champions points because champs points make sure the team that's been playing well the entire season get's a spot if they fumble in playoffs
also the tiebreaker also considers intl games but since both teams didn't attend a tournament together and never played each other only 3 games were considered
Diebs [#8]if you're saying kick off shouldn't be considered then there's no point of champions points because champs points make sure the team that's been playing well the entire season get's a spot if they fumble in playoffs
also the tiebreaker also considers intl games but since both teams didn't attend a tournament together and never played each other only 3 games were considered
100T has been playing well majority of the season. Kickoff wasnt that important bc the format was shit and teams barely got to play games
KlRBY [#10]100T has been playing well majority of the season. Kickoff wasnt that important bc the format was shit and teams barely got to play games
unfortunately we don't get to decide that
KlRBY [#10]100T has been playing well majority of the season. Kickoff wasnt that important bc the format was shit and teams barely got to play games
It was still important because it led to a masters event
GodAwfulGod [#6]Well then what would be the point of kickoff other than just to earn a couple of points
The point of Kickoff was to qualify for Masters Madrid, Duh. Why is a match from 4 months ago given same weightage as a match 1 week ago? I don't mind considering the round robin season match but considering a qualifier match from a completely different event doesn't make sense
Jihan03 [#13]The point of Kickoff was to qualify for Masters Madrid, Duh. Why is a match from 4 months ago given same weightage as a match 1 week ago? I don't mind considering the round robin season match but considering a qualifier match from a completely different event doesn't make sense
Well looking at a single game from a week ago would not be fair because 100T lost 2 times to sentinels before that, just because 100T won 1 game out of 3 means that it could have very well been a fluke and that is why they look at h2h's even if its not actually a fluke.
Diebs [#8]if you're saying kick off shouldn't be considered then there's no point of champions points because champs points make sure the team that's been playing well the entire season get's a spot if they fumble in playoffs
also the tiebreaker also considers intl games but since both teams didn't attend a tournament together and never played each other only 3 games were considered
The champs points earned from kickoff should be considered, but the qualifier match from kickoff shouldn't be considered. Also 100T played well during the entire season, that is why they have the same points as Sen.
Jihan03 [#15]The champs points earned from kickoff should be considered, but the qualifier match from kickoff shouldn't be considered. Also 100T played well during the entire season, that is why they have the same points as Sen.
100T didn't play well the entire season, they only played well during masters shanghai. Even during stage 2 they didn't play all that great.
Jihan03 [#15]The champs points earned from kickoff should be considered, but the qualifier match from kickoff shouldn't be considered. Also 100T played well during the entire season, that is why they have the same points as Sen.
the thing is there weren't any champs points for kickoff only winning the kickoff gave them 3 points which fucked sentinels the most and in that case this would never be a situation
KlRBY [#7]A game from 5 months ago should not matter now
If they weren't going to included h2h from 5 months ago, the overall records shouldn't have been combined then. They should have just considered stage 2 performance if that is the argument. I will agree the format is shit, but I mean if they're combining stage 1 and 2 performance, they should include the h2h in that too right?
GodAwfulGod [#17]100T didn't play well the entire season, they only played well during masters shanghai. Even during stage 2 they didn't play all that great.
In that case even Sen didn't played well during the entire season, if they had, then they wouldn't have the same points as 100T who in your opinion didn't play well
Jihan03 [#20]In that case even Sen didn't played well during the entire season, if they had, then they wouldn't have the same points as 100T who in your opinion didn't play well
Well 100T has 12W to 11L while Sen has 16W to 8L so even if you look at the win loss record Sen has overall played better this season, and it was the fact that kickoff didn't give any points otherwise Sen would have more points than 100T
GodAwfulGod [#14]Well looking at a single game from a week ago would not be fair because 100T lost 2 times to sentinels before that, just because 100T won 1 game out of 3 means that it could have very well been a fluke and that is why they look at h2h's even if its not actually a fluke.
Ofc sen fans tryna justify this braindead format 😭😭 a game played in February should not be considered when we're about to be in August
dort [#23]Ofc sen fans tryna justify this braindead format 😭😭 a game played in February should not be considered when we're about to be in August
The format is braindead, but if the record from both stages are going to be considered might as well include all h2h. If they only wanted to include matches from just stage 2, then 100T might not have even made playoffs, 100T went 2-3, tied with LOUD. Furia actually would've been in top 6 for stage 2 performance having a better record than 100T
dort [#23]Ofc sen fans tryna justify this braindead format 😭😭 a game played in February should not be considered when we're about to be in August
this applies in any sports in the world, you cannot just make an arbitrary line that only these games matter.
TM06Nick [#26]In all sports, head to head is decided by regular season games. It would be dumb to include playoffs in a regular season standing lol
kids don’t understand sports or any logical thinking 😂
donkkomong [#25]100T beat SEN last though, so 100T should overqualify over SEN wtf is this stupid H2H system. Make it make sense.
oh wow, so fuck all the time where sen WAS good through the season lol
dude this format favors the good teams who accomplished something through out the year
KlRBY [#7]A game from 5 months ago should not matter now
Then no one is gonna try at kickoff and the start of the year becomes completely useless
AK3 [#30]oh wow, so fuck all the time where sen WAS good through the season lol
dude this format favors the good teams who accomplished something through out the year
I understand but why though? Because the meta and roster changes so fucking much and so fast, so whats the point?
velocity05 [#28]this applies in any sports in the world, you cannot just make an arbitrary line that only these games matter.
Tbh in a game like valorant it should not work that way. Meta is always changing
GodAwfulGod [#6]Well then what would be the point of kickoff other than just to earn a couple of points
to go to madrid
AK3 [#30]oh wow, so fuck all the time where sen WAS good through the season lol
dude this format favors the good teams who accomplished something through out the year
100T won stage 1 which was way harder than kickoffs. Made top 4 in shanghai which was a way harder tournament than Madrid (sen couldnt even qualify btw) then beat SEN 2-0 in stage 2. 100T deserves it
lLoveMen [#35]100T won stage 1 which was way harder than kickoffs. Made top 4 in shanghai which was a way harder tournament than Madrid (sen couldnt even qualify btw) then beat SEN 2-0 in stage 2. 100T deserves it
sen won masters madrid, whats your point?
groomer [#33]Tbh in a game like valorant it should not work that way. Meta is always changing
so are you only gonna count the games that happen in one patch update? teams shouldnt get recognition for dominating a certain meta?
lLoveMen [#35]100T won stage 1 which was way harder than kickoffs. Made top 4 in shanghai which was a way harder tournament than Madrid (sen couldnt even qualify btw) then beat SEN 2-0 in stage 2. 100T deserves it
baba what are you yapping about, both shanghai finalist were on Madrid TH got grouped and GenG were top 2 on Madrid, so don't start crying about tournaments being easy or micky mouse lol, and btw the season record was 2-1 for sen against 100t, yes 100t isnt that good, yes they are mid, yes they only won because of Fluke performance from bang and Asuna and this should be clear 100t cant win if cryo,eeui,asuna,band go +20 across 3 maps they are talented i give them that but their only wins were because of the heroics of these players.
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