if kru chokes fnc would be the only team to qualify to all champions obviously the best team of all time b0ttinels who
sentinelmain377 [#4]bro
doesnt matter if KRU quals or not, FNATIC is still easily the best of all time lmao.
Fnatic is ass. They will be exposed soon against real teams
lemondou [#5]Fnatic is ass. They will be exposed soon against real teams
bro is just hating on every team
lemondou [#5]Fnatic is ass. They will be exposed soon against real teams
bro cant read...
FNATIC is still easily the **best of all time** lmao.
Aayan [#8]I think GENG can make it close if they do better at champs, but yeah so far I agree
if geng win champs surely they surpass fnatic
sentinelmain377 [#7]bro cant read...
FNATIC is still easily the **best of all time** lmao.
I see what you did there. FNC for the win baby
Telextro_786 [#10]if geng win champs surely they surpass fnatic
no.
geng only would have had 1 year of success while FNC has had 4 (with 1 being really good).
GENG would need to do good in another few international tournaments (1-3 more)
sentinelmain377 [#12]no.
geng only would have had 1 year of success while FNC has had 4 (with 1 being really good).GENG would need to do good in another few international tournaments (1-3 more)
Do not count 2021-2022 as successful lmao
sentinelmain377 [#12]no.
geng only would have had 1 year of success while FNC has had 4 (with 1 being really good).GENG would need to do good in another few international tournaments (1-3 more)
wdym 4 years of success?
didn't FNC choke in international LANs before 2023?
4rrowlol [#13]Do not count 2021-2022 as successful lmao
FNATIC:
#4 best team in terms of results in 2021 (under Gambit, Acend, Sentinels)
#6 best team in terms of results in 2022 (under OPTIC, LOUD, FPX, DRX, PRX)
#1 best team of 2023
#6-9 best team of 2024 (pending)
meanwhile GENG:
whomegalul in 2021
whomegalul in 2022
whomegalul in 2023
#1-3 best team of 2024 (pending)
sentinelmain377 [#4]bro
doesnt matter if KRU quals or not, FNATIC is still easily the best of all time lmao.
if geng make the finals of this champs
they easily take over fnatic no?
CoCloudy [#19]if geng make the finals of this champs
they easily take over fnatic no?
no chance. lmao
look at #17
at least 1 to 3 more tournaments with good performance for sure
I mean let alone all time, FNATIC would still be the best team of franchising if GENG made the finals. If GENG won champs, then it is a bit debatable (depends on if FNC also do good at champs 2024 or not)
sentinelmain377 [#20]no chance. lmao
look at #17
at least 1 to 3 more tournaments with good performance for sure
I mean let alone all time, FNATIC would still be the best team of franchising if GENG made the finals. If GENG won champs, then it is a bit debatable (depends on if FNC also do good at champs 2024 or not)
then js wait for the future
and see if geng are still good (I think they will be)
Sliggy has said this himself and I agree too
Geng are the most adaptable team we have ever seen (adapting to the meta fast and keeping up with it)
fnatic had a bit of a fumble with the skye nerfs this year
and going winless at shanghai
so i wont lie this year kinda looking bad for them but still making shanghai as top seed is impressive same as winning stage 1
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#15]wdym 4 years of success?
didn't FNC choke in international LANs before 2023?
They did but they usually choked in the important games like in Copenhagen they couldn’t beat fpx even tho they beat them like 4 times in a row before but they got 4th place anyway
swaggerlikejagger [#18]drx/vision strikers? (to qualify to every champs not best team of all time)
tbh DRX/VS has to be one of the most influential team in VCT. Their Haven/Ascent/Icebox (pre-change) set plays and agent comps were so impactful, as well as teams like EG with their own idea in Fracture and Optic's usage of Chamber
sentinelmain377 [#20]no chance. lmao
look at #17
at least 1 to 3 more tournaments with good performance for sure
I mean let alone all time, FNATIC would still be the best team of franchising if GENG made the finals. If GENG won champs, then it is a bit debatable (depends on if FNC also do good at champs 2024 or not)
If geng win champs, they are undoubtedly the best; 1 champions and 1 masters > 1 lock-in and 1 masters, especially considering geng’s are more recent
CoCloudy [#21]then js wait for the future
and see if geng are still good (I think they will be)
Sliggy has said this himself and I agree too
Geng are the most adaptable team we have ever seen (adapting to the meta fast and keeping up with it)
fnatic had a bit of a fumble with the skye nerfs this year
and going winless at shanghai
so i wont lie this year kinda looking bad for them but still making shanghai as top seed is impressive same as winning stage 1
i honestly thought GENG would struggle a bit more coming into this Neon/Iso meta with GENG's strong maps going out of rotation but somehow they are in grand final of PACIFIC again. Scary consistency fr
sentinelmain377 [#20]no chance. lmao
look at #17
at least 1 to 3 more tournaments with good performance for sure
I mean let alone all time, FNATIC would still be the best team of franchising if GENG made the finals. If GENG won champs, then it is a bit debatable (depends on if FNC also do good at champs 2024 or not)
da fuq you mean? They will deffo take over FNC lol. They would be Kickoff winner, Madrid Top 2, Stage 1 Top 2, Shanghai Winner, Stage 2 Top 2 and Champs Top 2 lol. All this with the same roster.
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#14]dw KRU will be there too (plot armor?)
Agreed. No way LEV win against KRU. KRU easily take the match. #KRUWIN #AGUEROWIN #MESSIWIN
CanadianLegend [#3]Rn FNC is the current greatest team OAT, their run in 2023 was just exceptional and they maintain even though not as well in 2024
geng is having a better year tournament for tournament. if they make it to finals at champs they surpass them
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#15]wdym 4 years of success?
didn't FNC choke in international LANs before 2023?
choke as in ppl had higher expectations for them
choke - they choked Reykjavik 2021 Finals against SEN (12-14, 14-16, 11-13 - super close map losses)
ppl had higher expectations - they somehow didnt win Copenhagen despite looking like the best team ever in EMEA Stage 2- Copenhagen qualifiers
DeluluGavin [#25]tbh DRX/VS has to be one of the most influential team in VCT. Their Haven/Ascent/Icebox (pre-change) set plays and agent comps were so impactful, as well as teams like EG with their own idea in Fracture and Optic's usage of Chamber
i really need termi to go back to cooking up quirky and wacky strats and comps, so that DRX can go back to being 5th-6th place merchants at international tournaments. i miss those days...
sentinelmain377 [#32]choke as in ppl had higher expectations for them
choke - they choked Reykjavik 2021 Finals against SEN (12-14, 14-16, 11-13 - super close map losses)
ppl had higher expectations - they somehow didnt win Copenhagen despite looking like the best team ever in EMEA Stage 2- Copenhagen qualifiers
FNC weren't the best team at the time tho
chauste [#31]geng is having a better year tournament for tournament. if they make it to finals at champs they surpass them
100% agree, GenG could just be the goat if they win champions, not to mention doing that while being the youngest roster is just wow
DeluluGavin [#23]If GENG wins champs, or gets TOP 2 with similar success next year stage 1 and masters 1, GENG should be topping FNC. Don't even bring up 2021,2022 because both had VERY different roster and GENG was in NA while FNC changed its core apart from Derke and Boaster
Question, imagine that happens, do you also consider texture the goat
Mortadelo [#36]Question, imagine that happens, do you also consider texture the goat
i feel like t3xture is very teamwork friendly duelist so he goes under the radar but if he manages to absolutely shit on everyone, probably? But the GENG that I have seen is more team based, like meteor, karon, texture fragging with the support system of Lakia and Munchkin. So personally, I would put him somewhere on the GOAT level but a lot might not agree
sentinelmain377 [#39]read #17
they are the most successful org
most successful team can't be decided in only 4 years.
CanadianLegend [#35]100% agree, GenG could just be the goat if they win champions, not to mention doing that while being the youngest roster is just wow
GenG is most definitely NOT the youngest roster
unknown_trash [#33]i really need termi to go back to cooking up quirky and wacky strats and comps, so that DRX can go back to being 5th-6th place merchants at international tournaments. i miss those days...
don’t they kinda do that now? they use chamber on lotus