The delusion to rank SEN higher than the team that placed 3rd in the last masters is crazy.
The delusion to rank SEN higher than BOTH 5-1 teams that strived in Stage 1 Groups that SEN failed to even get out of is crazy.
Being more popular isn’t a valid reason to reject the truth. I am trying to end this very false and extremely forced narrative to uphold the integrity of our community. SEN have to again prove themselves, and if they can’t then they’re already going to champs anyways.
Conceit [#4]Your baits are so boring bro, there's nothing even funny to them. You can do better man, you definitely have potential
I think he's not baiting
Conceit [#4]Your baits are so boring bro, there's nothing even funny to them. You can do better man, you definitely have potential
swear to god im not baiting I am LITERALLY showing you proof on why SEN needs to prove themselves??? They fucking bombed out of Stage 1 in a messy fashion and were treating it like it’s lost history lmfao, wake up
peaced [#7]swear to god im not baiting I am LITERALLY showing you proof on why SEN needs to prove themselves??? They fucking bombed out of Stage 1 in a messy fashion and were treating it like it’s lost history lmfao, wake up
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Shawn23 you unironically think anyone who doesn’t recognize SEN as a top team is a hater keep your emojis away from my posts
Denjisideals [#11]Brother 7 teams have not even played yet. Atleast watch the matches first no?
that’s why they need to prove themselves!!!!!!!! Great catch ❤️
TheAceGamer30 [#13]stop rage baiting bro
stop crying bro, how do you read this post and think it’s rage bait or do you have anger issues :(
peaced [#10]Shawn23 you unironically think anyone who doesn’t recognize SEN as a top team is a hater keep your emojis away from my posts
sen is a top 3 team, you’re just a horrible baiter lmao
peaced [#15]stop crying bro, how do you read this post and think it’s rage bait or do you have anger issues :(
multiple times you wrote this post like we all know your baiting stop posting pls
peaced [#17]see? LMAO
they won a whole masters, while you sit here and bait on your alt account, too embarrassed for your main ? 😂😂
Conceit [#20]He acts so conceited that I could believe that
if he keeps clashing with Sentinels fans I'm all for it
TheAceGamer30 [#19]multiple times you wrote this post like we all know your baiting stop posting pls
trying to end a false narrative that keeps being thrown around here and you think it’s bait haha. bait bait bait. You think SEN are better than 100T btw holy shameless super fan LOL
peaced [#23]trying to end a false narrative that keeps being thrown around here and you think it’s bait haha. bait bait bait. You think SEN are better than 100T btw holy shameless super fan LOL
Look Sen vs 100t h2h it’s clear who’s the better team 😂
Shawn23 [#21]they won a whole masters, while you sit here and bait on your alt account, too embarrassed for your main ? 😂😂
Who said I forgot about their Masters win silly Shawn! Unfortunately, Split 1 and Shanghai have passed since that win, and I’m not going to just forgot about those two tournaments like I went through a lobotomy.
TheAceGamer30 [#25]Look Sen vs 100t h2h it’s clear who’s the better team 😂
Oh sweet lord you truly are the average SEN fan
peaced [#26]Who said I forgot about their Masters win silly Shawn! Unfortunately, Split 1 and Shanghai have passed since that win, and I’m not going to just forgot about those two tournaments like I went through a lobotomy.
Shawn23 [#28]
- ALT Account
Shawn23 believes I am an alt account and therefore everything I say is false just because. Great talk Shawn!
ButterflyEffect23 [#22]if he keeps clashing with Sentinels fans I'm all for it
Oh yeah, but he'll just argue about whatever and act like he's the smartest person in the world and whatever he says is just the hardcore facts. I'm more just annoyed about him in general, not really too much on this thread specifically
Conceit [#20]He acts so conceited that I could believe that
“Conceit” is literally your name but alright bro
RzqoFoxie [#33]Oh easily. People are drastically overrating SEN
The fact that they made their match against NRG this close proved as much
I hurts my soul to see the blatant truth being thrown around like it’s a melting hot take, someone needs to fix these people
peaced [#32]“Conceit” is literally your name but alright bro
Oh no! It's the name I use on VLR! You caught me!
Conceit [#35]Oh no! It's the name I use on VLR! You caught me!
the irony is actually comedic, maybe let go of your own pride and admit that you’re wrong about a topic
peaced [#10]Shawn23 you unironically think anyone who doesn’t recognize SEN as a top team is a hater keep your emojis away from my posts
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Dayylol [#41]Damn this aged terribly lmaooooo
except that it didn’t lol, these were the initial unbiased expectations for SEN.
_Kevn_ [#42]Where is Peaced. He must face his L. Power ranking is not only based of results. It's based off of speculated expectations. That's quite literally the whole point. People on this site need to stop only basing their opinions off of results.
#43 :)
peaced [#43]except that it didn’t lol, these were the initial unbiased expectations for SEN.
Doesn’t mean it didn’t age terribly? Plus
U judge like an ai unable to factor that the team was burned out and is now coming off a break
Pengu12 [#45]Doesn’t mean it didn’t age terribly? Plus
U judge like an ai unable to factor that the team was burned out and is now coming off a break
it didn’t, because I already acknowledged that if SEN prove themselves after split 1 then they will be ranked higher before split 2 even started. It’s called ranking shit for what we know so far
oiiink [#49]im getting lazy responding to his delusion but i hope u start opening ur eyes and maybe using ur brain
you can retire from being my fan if you want
peaced [#48]it didn’t, because I already acknowledged that if SEN prove themselves after split 1 then they will be ranked higher before split 2 even started. It’s called ranking shit for what we know so far
I have a feeling arguing with u is pointless but u pretty much said that things will stay exactly the same and no one will improve
peaced [#36]the irony is actually comedic, maybe let go of your own pride and admit that you’re wrong about a topic
LMAO WAIT BQWAHGAHAHJA
Pengu12 [#52]I have a feeling arguing with u is pointless but u pretty much said that things will stay exactly the same and no one will improve
you unironically use the burnout excuse still as GENG continues to be a title contender 5 months in a row, please shut up respectfully 🙏
peaced [#54]you unironically use the burnout excuse still as GENG continues to be a title contender 5 months in a row, please shut up respectfully 🙏
Geng played equally as bad as Sen in groups and idk if u are watching the games or even lookinn at the score but obv is seems to be true no? Playing wah better after a holiday
Pengu12 [#55]Geng played equally as bad as Sen in groups and idk if u are watching the games or even lookinn at the score but obv is seems to be true no? Playing wah better after a holiday
GENG played equally bad as SEN by losing to teams like PRX (5-1) and DRX (6-0) while SEN lost to teams like EG and LOUD w/ qck (who were both winless before facing SEN btw)? You’re funny, and what’s even funnier is that GENG won two more maps compared to SEN on top of that. NT though.
peaced [#56]GENG played equally bad as SEN by losing to teams like PRX (5-1) and DRX (6-0) while SEN lost to teams like EG and LOUD w/ qck (who were both winless before facing SEN btw)? You’re funny, and what’s even funnier is that GENG won two more maps compared to SEN on top of that. NT though.
K bud
It's starting to be boring to see no argument in the other side. The OP has made some point that isn't totally nonsense, and litterally none of you have counterargument. (I don't think I agree with him, but still...)
I dream of a world where vlr is a place where people can give constructive opinions.
Anguibok [#58]It's starting to be boring to see no argument in the other side. The OP has made some point that isn't totally nonsense, and litterally none of you have counterargument. (I don't think I agree with him, but still...)
I dream of a world where vlr is a place where people can give constructive opinions.
The point is very surface level, it’s basically saying they didn’t perform better then them so they will not perform better then them, personally I think it was obvious that Sen would either improve or completely fall apart due to internal reasons there was no chance they would stay stagnant
Pengu12 [#59]The point is very surface level, it’s basically saying they didn’t perform better then them so they will not perform better then them, personally I think it was obvious that Sen would either improve or completely fall apart due to internal reasons there was no chance they would stay stagnant
I agree it might surface level, but we can never know if it is, if peaople answer with things that is even not surface level.
Even if the OP being probably wrong about C9/KRU > SEN, he is right to not change opinion about this, since no one give him anything interesting, and he is totally legitimate to just consider he got aggro by a bunch of "biased SEN fan"
Anguibok [#60]I agree it might surface level, but we can never know if it is, if peaople answer with things that is even not surface level.
Even if the OP being probably wrong about C9/KRU > SEN, he is right to not change opinion about this, since no one give him anything interesting, and he is totally legitimate to just consider he got aggro by a bunch of "biased SEN fan"
The take isn’t even that bad anyone can think what they wanna(even if I debate in the end it’s valorant, it’s unpredictable) but people are calling him braindead for saying it didn’t age terribly and Sen performing the way they are is unexpected
Conceit [#31]Oh yeah, but he'll just argue about whatever and act like he's the smartest person in the world and whatever he says is just the hardcore facts. I'm more just annoyed about him in general, not really too much on this thread specifically
he looks at standings to say that c9 and kru are better than sen without using any context and act like theres some objective truth to what hes saying. like teams change lol. im glad he was proven wrong, maybe if he drops his attitude he can understand why hes wrong all the time
Anguibok [#60]I agree it might surface level, but we can never know if it is, if peaople answer with things that is even not surface level.
Even if the OP being probably wrong about C9/KRU > SEN, he is right to not change opinion about this, since no one give him anything interesting, and he is totally legitimate to just consider he got aggro by a bunch of "biased SEN fan"
Here is the counter argument.
Sen has multiple players who have WON multiple major tournaments.
They have looked amazing in the preseason, and they won the first international tournament of the year.
To say " You're crazy to rate Sen higher than teams that had a better record in split 1!!!!!!!" is an ignorant statement given the two statements I said above.
Anyone who is objective and actually watches Valorant knows that Sen underperformed in split 1 and was most likely going to rebound in split 2.
peaced [#36]the irony is actually comedic, maybe let go of your own pride and admit that you’re wrong about a topic
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LouBag [#64]Here is the counter argument.
Sen has multiple players who have WON multiple major tournaments.
They have looked amazing in the preseason, and they won the first international tournament of the year.
To say " You're crazy to rate Sen higher than teams that had a better record in split 1!!!!!!!" is an ignorant statement given the two statements I said above.
Anyone who is objective and actually watches Valorant knows that Sen underperformed in split 1 and was most likely going to rebound in split 2.
apparently it is now objective to say that a certain team will most likely rebound from a massive disappointment in the future while it is subjective to say that there’s a strong possibility that nothing changes from what we’ve already recently seen from them?
Oh yes we love cockroaches that wont die however u smash him.
"The delusion to rank SEN higher than the team that placed 3rd in Shanghai", well look at Shanghai 4th place how are they doing? Two straight loses.
We will never know how well SEN will play against G2 until they actually play against each other.
Stop smashing ppls opinions lol ur take lacks proof and only time will tell if ur opinion ages like wine or milk
"I am trying to end this very false and extremely forced narrative to uphold the integrity of our community. "
Where do you think you are bro No teachers are asking you to write an essay go sit down somewhere else and let a real match watcher give out his opinions and takes lol
peaced [#66]apparently it is now objective to say that a certain team will most likely rebound from a massive disappointment in the future while it is subjective to say that there’s a strong possibility that nothing changes from what we’ve already recently seen from them?
A team that has been good since January and won an international title but lost 3 matches during a 1 month span, is more likely to do well the next split then fall off and be 6th best in the league......................
H3ENnZ [#68]Oh yes we love cockroaches that wont die however u smash him.
"The delusion to rank SEN higher than the team that placed 3rd in Shanghai", well look at Shanghai 4th place how are they doing? Two straight loses.
We will never know how well SEN will play against G2 until they actually play against each other.
Stop smashing ppls opinions lol ur take lacks proof and only time will tell if ur opinion ages like wine or milk"I am trying to end this very false and extremely forced narrative to uphold the integrity of our community. "
Where do you think you are bro No teachers are asking you to write an essay go sit down somewhere else and let a real match watcher give out his opinions and takes lol
you type like an upset 14 year old who is failing hard to understand that this post were for SEN’s initial expectations which they have been disproving themselves and is what I wanted to see from them which was mentioned in the post you just read.
peaced [#70]you type like an upset 14 year old who is failing hard to understand that this post were for SEN’s initial expectations which they have been disproving themselves and is what I wanted to see from them which was mentioned in the post you just read.
Like I said. Only time will tell if ur opinion ages like wine or milk
LouBag [#69]A team that has been good since January and won an international title but lost 3 matches during a 1 month span, is more likely to do well the next split then fall off and be 6th best in the league......................
and those 3 matches against 2 winless teams at the time held massive value to everyone which ended up forcing them to be grouped. You’re seriously trying to downplay the disappointment they had to go through? Haha.
They looked terrible in those matches as well, and definitely had a worse form than 4 other teams from what we know of. Truth is the truth bro.
H3ENnZ [#71]Like I said. Only time will tell if ur opinion ages like wine or milk
Except that it isn’t an opinion on SEN’s projection for split 2, it is literally about what they are to be expected of BEFORE split 2 even takes place, which I already welcomed change to those expectations once the split starts.
peaced [#72]and those 3 matches against 2 winless teams at the time held massive value to everyone which ended up forcing them to be grouped. You’re seriously trying to downplay the disappointment they had to go through? Haha.
They looked terrible in those matches as well, and definitely had a worse form than 4 other teams from what we know of. Truth is the truth bro.
yes, truth.
Clearly them doing well now is an "Unexpected" shock.
Except for 80% of people who watch valorant and are not shocked that Sen is doing well.
peaced [#73]Except that it isn’t an opinion on SEN’s projection for split 2, it is literally about what they are to be expected of BEFORE split 2 even takes place, which I already welcomed change to those expectations once the split starts.
take a chill pill, you have been at it for an hour or smth, i know vlr exists to post retarded shit but better to keep it on the low
lolli [#76]take a chill pill, you have been at it for an hour or smth, i know vlr exists to post retarded shit but better to keep it on the low
it’s funny though
LouBag [#75]yes, truth.
Clearly them doing well now is an "Unexpected" shock.
Except for 80% of people who watch valorant and are not shocked that Sen is doing well.
never said it was a shock, but believe whatever you want lol. SEN’s expectations grew after each game they played this split so far, they weren’t suddenly a top 2 team before their first match after what went down last split and I seriously hope you believed that.
peaced [#36]the irony is actually comedic, maybe let go of your own pride and admit that you’re wrong about a topic
retard alert, prolly runs in the family, someone get this guy some help
peaced [#70]you type like an upset 14 year old who is failing hard to understand that this post were for SEN’s initial expectations which they have been disproving themselves and is what I wanted to see from them which was mentioned in the post you just read.
u type like a disabled kid who needs to snap back to reality.
ejfeiofewipfefe [#83]u type like a disabled kid who needs to snap back to reality.
this is like the 10th time you’ve replied to me crying your ass off lmfaoooo go relax your anger brother, you’re obsessed for me 😭
LouBag [#64]Here is the counter argument.
Sen has multiple players who have WON multiple major tournaments.
They have looked amazing in the preseason, and they won the first international tournament of the year.
To say " You're crazy to rate Sen higher than teams that had a better record in split 1!!!!!!!" is an ignorant statement given the two statements I said above.
Anyone who is objective and actually watches Valorant knows that Sen underperformed in split 1 and was most likely going to rebound in split 2.
To me good player doesnt mean a lot about good team, many superstar teams have crumble in every team.
I agree the kickoff argument is okayish, but I put it on the same level than Split 1 reccord
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