I don’t want no bullshit responses pointing at the obvious like 2024 yay or something. I want an answer that the very very very big majority will refuse to believe and will actively call you bait or stupid for even suggesting it. Let yourself be free here.
My pick is SEN, they are not a top team anymore, and will be at the end of the middle pack for split 2 touching tips with mibr. Watching their gameplay in split 1 was torture.
TheBigBoiPenguin [#12]geng. they were the best at shanghai but they wouldnt compete at all with any tournament winners in 2023 or 2022
They literally beat the same fnatic roster lmao.
Hyssopus1 [#6]PRX
TENZ
if any player in the world had the same 2023 tenz had they would be retired by now 100%.
PRX aren’t overrated after Shanghai we all know the reality
tur0n [#13]Paper Rex
people think they're going to win Shanghai just because jinggg is back when they struggle to beat teams from NA
I mean they've had several 2nd place placements in masters and champions + several regional 1st places
I hear you, and I get where you're coming from with SEN. They've had their highs and lows, but it's true their performance in Split 1 was underwhelming for many. Split 2 will definitely be a make-or-break moment for them. As for an unexpected pick, how about TSM? They've had their share of struggles despite their legacy, and some might argue they haven't quite lived up to the hype recently. It's always controversial to challenge established opinions, but sometimes it's worth considering. (Just an opinion. Watching there recent plays makes me feel this way)
hellfire [#23]Navi and Sen
for players it'd be tenz and nats
bro said TenZ like in every server he's in he's not a top 3 player with any player
swvyboi1 [#2]TH.
Thank you for letting me be free, I couldn't hold the truth anymore.
-swvyboi1
#SENCITY
Anverag Sen fan your team didnt made shanghai
TheBigBoiPenguin [#12]geng. they were the best at shanghai but they wouldnt compete at all with any tournament winners in 2023 or 2022
2022 and 2023 were just straight ass tho, nobody even rated them in retrospect
Azzelastia [#8]Any memea team. They got a lucky run in Shanghai
You cannot be lucky after winning 7 maps in a row... Just accept it
TheBigBoiPenguin [#12]geng. they were the best at shanghai but they wouldnt compete at all with any tournament winners in 2023 or 2022
They are so good you can only beat them in a imaginary fanfiction that involve time traveling. So yeah, they are very good.
FireII [#15]PRX aren’t overrated after Shanghai we all know the reality
PRX is destined to be the Sisyphus of Valorant, always coming close to the top but always stumbling, incredibly Gen G managed to get an international trophy before they
Motendo4ever [#25]Anverag Sen fan your team didnt made shanghai
it’s swvyboi don’t expect much, he’s ai created by SEN themselves
anyth1ng [#9]NAVI cant even qualify for LAN ( for 2 years now) and when they do (carried by extra slots won by FNATIC) they still get grouped, bad team and i dont know why it still gets any hype
but also every player is decent they just dont function together anymore
yup. shao hasn’t been good since 2022, zyppan is just bad, suygetsu has his moments and mechanics but it isn’t good enough, ardiis is inconsistent and ange1 is too old
SAMPV6 [#29]never accomplished shit but still gets glazed like crazy
don’t forget we bitched yiur entire org countlessly until last yr, drx has just been in a coaching and roster slump. they’re looking incredible rn so i’ll be back tmr when drx shit on prx
seofps [#39]don’t forget we bitched yiur entire org countlessly until last yr, drx has just been in a coaching and roster slump. they’re looking incredible rn so i’ll be back tmr when drx shit on prx
never accomplished shit but still gets glazed like crazy 🥱
SAMPV6 [#40]never accomplished shit but still gets glazed like crazy 🥱
prx fan talking about accomplishments 😭😭
valkin [#42]prx fan talking about accomplishments 😭😭
I'll take several 2nd places internationally over achieving dogshit placements in regionals lol
DRX is the most fraudulent and overrated team ever, you can cry cope seethe and mald
SAMPV6 [#47]I'll take several 2nd places internationally over achieving dogshit placements in regionals lol
DRX is the most fraudulent and overrated team ever, you can cry cope seethe and mald
im not a drx or a prx fan its just funny to hear a prx fan talk about achievements when you have no trophies
seofps [#39]don’t forget we bitched yiur entire org countlessly until last yr, drx has just been in a coaching and roster slump. they’re looking incredible rn so i’ll be back tmr when drx shit on prx
i hope this ages well. it is kinda funny that prx and drx fans are at each other's throats rather often when the teams themselves are amicable
edg
Had one good run in Tokyo and that's it.
Beat giants and blg in Champs to place 6th.
Only beat prx(with monyet) in Madrid to place 6th.
No wins in Shanghai with home crowd.
Everyone still thinks they can do what they did in Tokyo. But it is over, they can't do a simple default. Reminds me of Sen 2023.
Azzelastia [#8]Any memea team. They got a lucky run in Shanghai
so your team was so unlucky to get stomped by 100T and then not qualifing? not hating on LOUD because i really like them but u seem kinda delusional
kanyefan4238173 [#10]trexx
if ppl disagree it means im rlly onto something. hes still good tho
trexx is a super talented player, in guild days he was one of the best players
anyth1ng [#9]NAVI cant even qualify for LAN ( for 2 years now) and when they do (carried by extra slots won by FNATIC) they still get grouped, bad team and i dont know why it still gets any hype
but also every player is decent they just dont function together anymore
they qualified at every masters and champs last year, so its half a year that they dont qualify for lans
Hyssopus1 [#6]PRX
TENZ
if any player in the world had the same 2023 tenz had they would be retired by now 100%.
well if someone retired for a bit after their fiance got cancer I wouldnt blame them
valkin [#49]im not a drx or a prx fan its just funny to hear a prx fan talk about achievements when you have no trophies
did u see the dinner plate they got mate?
cristiadu [#58]ZmjjKK
Highest ACS at tokyo with a dogshit team. If kang kang had loud he wouldnt lose to optic or fnc ever
Al-Mawsil [#55]well if someone retired for a bit after their fiance got cancer I wouldnt blame them
yes that is the problem if Tenz had take his time in 2023 it would been better for everyone on that team even for himself but the guy still insist playing with all of this shit draggin everyone around him to the mud, SEN 2023 not making even playoffs was criminal that should not happen with that kind of roster.
Kxtqqh [#53]trexx is a super talented player, in guild days he was one of the best players
Yeah he’s talented but I remember watching koi he would over peek a lot. Maybe it’s the institution and playing with total bots like wolfen and kolda tho
kanyefan4238173 [#61]Yeah he’s talented but I remember watching koi he would over peek a lot. Maybe it’s the institution and playing with total bots like wolfen and kolda tho
W0lf0n
Hyssopus1 [#6]PRX
TENZ
if any player in the world had the same 2023 tenz had they would be retired by now 100%.
that's the past tho aspas was getting grouped in plumber league in 2021 yet he's the best duelist itw now. tenz was overrated in 2022-23 when sen sucked donkey dck now he swapped roles and proved he's still good at the game but no one expects him to 1v9 anymore so i think he's pretty fairly rated
valkin [#49]im not a drx or a prx fan its just funny to hear a prx fan talk about achievements when you have no trophies
Is it so hard to grasp the concept that DRX is overrated when they have even less achievements than PRX? jesus
Kxtqqh [#54]they qualified at every masters and champs last year, so its half a year that they dont qualify for lans
(carried by extra slots won by FNATIC)
methlover69 [#63]that's the past tho aspas was getting grouped in plumber league in 2021 yet he's the best duelist itw now. tenz was overrated in 2022-23 when sen sucked donkey dck now he swapped roles and proved he's still good at the game but no one expects him to 1v9 anymore so i think he's pretty fairly rated
Are you retard my man? Aspas in 2021 was playing with literally NOBODIES till this day those guys didn't achieve a single fucking thing not even in streaming, Tenz was playing with masters winners and champions winners and the best duelist in NA, and you want to compare this with Aspas in 2021?
Hyssopus1 [#60]yes that is the problem if Tenz had take his time in 2023 it would been better for everyone on that team even for himself but the guy still insist playing with all of this shit draggin everyone around him to the mud, SEN 2023 not making even playoffs was criminal that should not happen with that kind of roster.
he was literally benched until d0phh decided his fossil ass was burnt out
seofps [#39]don’t forget we bitched yiur entire org countlessly until last yr, drx has just been in a coaching and roster slump. they’re looking incredible rn so i’ll be back tmr when drx shit on prx
You were saying about your dogshit team?🥱
SAMPV6 [#64]Is it so hard to grasp the concept that DRX is overrated when they have even less achievements than PRX? jesus
both teams have no achivements lmfao
Teams
TH
"wE dIdNt HaVe OuR fUll rOsTeR" "pLaYinG wItH A sUB"
https://www.vlr.gg/282836/team-heretics-vs-ucam-tokiers-crossfire-cup-2023-finals-qf
DRX
They're always looking great until its time to be great
Players
Benjyfishy - Mf's have him over Alfajer
qraxs - "The best Kayo Ever", as long as you don't value playoff runs or winning, and ignore Ethan, you can make the case for that.
Sym - There's times where he randomly flips a switch and turns into the best player in the world, but when he's not in destroyer of worlds mode he's a (slightly) below average challengers duelist. Never bad tho.
Florescent - We all know why
tur0n [#13]Paper Rex
people think they're going to win Shanghai just because jinggg is back when they struggle to beat teams from NA
Room temperature iq spotted. What can anyone expect from a sen fan. Comeback in 10 years.
Yuh_aye [#76]Teams
TH
"wE dIdNt HaVe OuR fUll rOsTeR" "pLaYinG wItH A sUB"
https://www.vlr.gg/282836/team-heretics-vs-ucam-tokiers-crossfire-cup-2023-finals-qfDRX
They're always looking great until its time to be greatPlayers
Benjyfishy - Mf's have him over Alfajerqraxs - "The best Kayo Ever", as long as you don't value playoff runs or winning, and ignore Ethan, you can make the case for that.
Sym - There's times where he randomly flips a switch and turns into the best player in the world, but when he's not in destroyer of worlds mode he's a (slightly) below average challengers duelist. Never bad tho.
Florescent - We all know why
Instead of putting the GF results from Shanghai or EMEA, bro put an offseason results like it matters a lot😭
What's next, you're gonna say C9 is underrated cause they went 5 map against Fnatic with a sub 🤣
2024 only to narrow it down
EDG (Completely fell off this year, yeah they have the most champs points out of any team but let's be real. They beat All Gamers, TEC, DRG etc. They didn't deserve to win against Trace., Trace choked hard. FPX have proven to be the better team. They've been stomped in both internationals this year and post-Shanghai they're even losing to Wolves. They're honestly getting worse every time I see them)
NAVI (What has this team accomplished recently? With doombros gone they look even worse now)
KC (N4RRATE is insanely good but this team has looked shockingly mid post-kickoff)
NRG (Overrated throughout kickoff and Split 1 and NRG 2.0 feels just as overrated. I love FNS and Sam but there shouldn't be such high expectations for them to pick up the pieces this quickly)
Dybala21 [#79]Instead of putting the GF results from Shanghai or EMEA, bro put an offseason results like it matters a lot😭
What's next, you're gonna say C9 is underrated cause they went 5 map against Fnatic with a sub 🤣
bro they lost to literal bums like who tf are those people Shahzam's MIBR would beat those guys.
Also, SEN look insane in offseason -> win next masters
Fnatic struggle against C9 (and some random japanese t2 team) in offseason -> look terrible all year except for a 5 game streak which takes them to Shanghai (KC game to GEN.G Game), then go back to being terrible (waxed by FUT and then fighting for their life against BBL)
So clearly it means something 😂😂😂
kanyefan4238173 [#61]Yeah he’s talented but I remember watching koi he would over peek a lot. Maybe it’s the institution and playing with total bots like wolfen and kolda tho
trexx really had to carry that KOI team so yeah he had that feeling he needed to overpeek
TheBigBoiPenguin [#12]geng. they were the best at shanghai but they wouldnt compete at all with any tournament winners in 2023 or 2022
GENG would Shit on Optic, FPX, and LOUD even in a 5v15 ngl
Pinguinn [#27]2022 and 2023 were just straight ass tho, nobody even rated them in retrospect
2023 was other than champs. 2022 was probably the best year for Val that and maybe this year.
swvyboi1 [#2]TH.
Thank you for letting me be free, I couldn't hold the truth anymore.
-swvyboi1
#SENCITY
They are mad you telling the truth. Buncha pajeets.
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