- Boostio
- JohnQT
- Saadhak
- Kinggg
- Valyn
3 players + coach isn't the same ascension team? people still called it optic vs loud when loud had 3 players + different coach and nrg had 3 players + coach? literally the same argument but you dont want to admit it. king has done jack shit. tier2 accomplishments is better than levs defeats of kru when they were shit and furia and mibr who have never been tier 1 level
johns team was better because he was calling like the best igl in world lmao this team was clueless last year g2 also had to make a roster change before they even looked close to this good
also bringing up previous achievements from nearly 9 months ago shouldn't be how we evaluate these igls now
Im not saying valyn isn't an insane igl or even saying hes not top 5 because he clearly is but i don't see the argument for saying hes better than johnqt when he hasn't achieved more than him