- Boostio
- JohnQT
- Saadhak
- Kinggg
- Valyn
Asuna_Yuuki [#5]Valyn 4th at least
I would even put him 3rd behind Boostio and saadhak
Johnqt clears valyn
pugboy [#11]Johnqt clears valyn
Nah valyn hard cleared him in ascension and he is calling insane rn for G2
pugboy [#10]yes because valyn has accomplished anything
ascension winning team as well as first to qualify to international event as ascension team? king has been farming mibr kru and furia winning national trophies as his only slightly recognisable stat
ntro [#13]ascension winning team as well as first to qualify to international event as ascension team? king has been farming mibr kru and furia winning national trophies as his only slightly recognisable stat
no way you just brought tier 2 accomplishments into this thats hilarious they also had to make 2 roster changes to this "ascension team" so its not even the same team how r u even arguing valyn is better when he hasn't done anything to prove that
Asuna_Yuuki [#12]Nah valyn hard cleared him in ascension and he is calling insane rn for G2
johnqt won an actual event but okay no disrespect to valyn he is calling crazy but I think john has proved way more despite there struggles this split like what are you going to do they really didn't have any time to switch anything up or change many strats
pugboy [#18]johnqt won an actual event but okay no disrespect to valyn he is calling crazy but I think john has proved way more despite there struggles this split like what are you going to do they really didn't have any time to switch anything up or change many strats
john's team was just way better at the time
When both of their teams were at a similar level john got diffed by valyn in the ascension finals
And valyn is way better this split as well
pugboy [#15]no way you just brought tier 2 accomplishments into this thats hilarious they also had to make 2 roster changes to this "ascension team" so its not even the same team how r u even arguing valyn is better when he hasn't done anything to prove that
Funny you talk about tier 2 when johnqt choked a 10-2 lead against tier 2 players. Take that fraud off the list
pugboy [#15]no way you just brought tier 2 accomplishments into this thats hilarious they also had to make 2 roster changes to this "ascension team" so its not even the same team how r u even arguing valyn is better when he hasn't done anything to prove that
Valyn also brought the guard a rookie team to a Masters before franchising
lLoveMen [#21]Funny you talk about tier 2 when johnqt choked a 10-2 lead against tier 2 players. Take that fraud off the list
okay paper rex fan talking about choking
Asuna_Yuuki [#20]john's team was just way better at the time
When both of their teams were at a similar level john got diffed by valyn in the ascension finals
And valyn is way better this split as well
johns team was better because he was calling like the best igl in world lmao this team was clueless last year g2 also had to make a roster change before they even looked close to this good
also bringing up previous achievements from nearly 9 months ago shouldn't be how we evaluate these igls now
Im not saying valyn isn't an insane igl or even saying hes not top 5 because he clearly is but i don't see the argument for saying hes better than johnqt when he hasn't achieved more than him
SomeoneLikeU [#8]
- johnqt
- Saadhak
- Boostio
- Vayln
- KiNgg
the thing with saadhak is he hasnt had any major results and in every match they've looked below average. (THIS YEAR)
pugboy [#15]no way you just brought tier 2 accomplishments into this thats hilarious they also had to make 2 roster changes to this "ascension team" so its not even the same team how r u even arguing valyn is better when he hasn't done anything to prove that
3 players + coach isn't the same ascension team? people still called it optic vs loud when loud had 3 players + different coach and nrg had 3 players + coach? literally the same argument but you dont want to admit it. king has done jack shit. tier2 accomplishments is better than levs defeats of kru when they were shit and furia and mibr who have never been tier 1 level
envyz [#28]better results during Group Stage and just a better fragger
ah yes because when you rank an igl you rank their fragging ability and not their leading skills or strategic plays
ntro [#30]3 players + coach isn't the same ascension team? people still called it optic vs loud when loud had 3 players + different coach and nrg had 3 players + coach? literally the same argument but you dont want to admit it. king has done jack shit. tier2 accomplishments is better than levs defeats of kru when they were shit and furia and mibr who have never been tier 1 level
nah u were right bruh my bad I doubted u Im watching this game and the midround is dogshit only thing kingg has is he is 5x better mechanically
envyz [#29]the thing with saadhak is he hasnt had any major results and in every match they've looked below average. (THIS YEAR)
?????????
envyz [#29]the thing with saadhak is he hasnt had any major results and in every match they've looked below average. (THIS YEAR)
Are you serious?
pugboy [#18]johnqt won an actual event but okay no disrespect to valyn he is calling crazy but I think john has proved way more despite there struggles this split like what are you going to do they really didn't have any time to switch anything up or change many strats
Bro is living in the past. Yes, Johnqt was top a couple months ago, but Boostio and Valyn clear him rn. Bro lost a 10-2 to EG
UnEstoppable [#37]Bro is living in the past. Yes, Johnqt was top a couple months ago, but Boostio and Valyn clear him rn. Bro lost a 10-2 to EG
g2 is not getting out of groups in shanghai so idk what your argument will be after that I also never said he was better than boostio so calm down buddy
Rendzin [#7]Saadhak is the best IGL in americas and itw and one good tournament by boostio wont change this
one?