was NA challengers viewership always this low?

i swear games would average 15kish views last year or am i going insane?

def insane lol

doesn’t help that tarik isn’t doing watch parties anymore

no shahzam no views

(but fr no hype, i havent watched a single challengers game this szn cause i dont care about any of the teams)

It probably is lower bc prior there were more notable orgs involved then. Also toast used to bring in views, that was the only reason why I really watch prior to the ascension tourney.

no one wants to watch t500 gameplay

Also DSG brought a lot of hype with tarik watching the games. There was just a lot more hype around it due to it being new and also being the first time the winner getting a slot in franchise.

i know everyone complains about having low viewers n all but are there any other games that get good views for T2

no one wants to watch twt vs yfp, some years ago on vcl na you had sen vs 100t or c9 vs lg (way more interesting even tho the gameplay wasnt much better or any better)

dylak [#8]

i know everyone complains about having low viewers n all but are there any other games that get good views for T2

vcl japan gets like 10k for regular league games and 50k on playoffs with a lot of jp streamers watch party-ing

dylak [#8]

i know everyone complains about having low viewers n all but are there any other games that get good views for T2

league got very good views in europe tier 2, even in val japan, france get good numbers

koromast [#10]

vcl japan gets like 10k for regular league games and 50k on playoffs with a lot of jp streamers watch party-ing

they're 70k average 230k peak

No point watching some of these games when everyone knows m80, oxg, and Mxs will be top 3. Just fast forward to playoffs

Brimstan [#6]

no one wants to watch t500 gameplay

No one even watches tier 1 Emea lmao don’t know why you’re yapping

its cause none of the games rn matter. just wait till the middle and end of the year

Woue_ [#12]

they're 70k average 230k peak

oh im lost then LMAO

beaver_man [#13]

No point watching some of these games when everyone knows m80, oxg, and Mxs will be top 3. Just fast forward to playoffs

Turtle troops owns m80 tho

No one really cares about T2, just an unfortunate truth. DSG, TGRD, and M80 were probably solo-carrying NA viewership last year. Now there's only 1 left, and it's probably the team with the least fans of the 3.

no struggling Yay on a trainwreck org is defs affecting viewership

no teams r just so bad this yr

koromast [#9]

no one wants to watch twt vs yfp, some years ago on vcl na you had sen vs 100t or c9 vs lg (way more interesting even tho the gameplay wasnt much better or any better)

because that was the main league, challengers in the past is the presents franchising leagues

J0zza [#21]

because that was the main league, challengers in the past is the presents franchising leagues

yeah but actually last year it had way more views because they still had faze guard g2, shopify and moist were separate orgs and disguised which was a streamer org with yay, now they dont have much to sustain tier 2´s viewership other than mxs oxg and m80 tbh

beaver_man [#14]

No one even watches tier 1 Emea lmao don’t know why you’re yapping

NA filled with soyboy clout teams, all bark no bite

Brimstan [#23]

NA filled with soyboy clout teams, all bark no bite

https://www.vlr.gg/312798/sentinels-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r2
https://www.vlr.gg/312768/sentinels-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r1

NO dsg no clout

Hyopic [#24]

https://www.vlr.gg/312798/sentinels-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r2
https://www.vlr.gg/312768/sentinels-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r1

Beat an emea team (th) with a sub 2-1 while also being -2 in rounds

Struggling against teams with subs
Sen so bad

Hyopic [#24]

https://www.vlr.gg/312798/sentinels-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r2
https://www.vlr.gg/312768/sentinels-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-swiss-stage-r1

Sen lucky emea sent in their b teams

Congrats to sentinels form winning a meaningless Mickey Mouse trophy

Brimstan [#27]

Sen lucky emea sent in their b teams

Congrats to sentinels form winning a meaningless Mickey Mouse trophy

Maybe the "A" teams should have won then 😔 😔 😔

Conceit [#28]

Maybe the "A" teams should have won then 😔 😔 😔

Why would they try for a Mickey Mouse tourney? You legit give free vids and strats while getting 0 points unless you win

sentinelmain377 [#26]

Beat an emea team (th) with a sub 2-1 while also being -2 in rounds

Struggling against teams with subs
Sen so bad

sub is the one that qualified do not sleep on the goat patitek

also fam SEN's IGL started ramadan a few days or a week before this im pretty sure lol, allg tho im jus fucking around

Brimstan [#29]

Why would they try for a Mickey Mouse tourney? You legit give free vids and strats while getting 0 points unless you win

not many strats for NAVI or FNC to give no?

Hyopic [#31]

not many strats for NAVI or FNC to give no?

We dont need strats to beat reigonal teams, we're saving for 2028 chmps mumbai

no tarik, toast or shahzam. only Ludwig watches and he only watches MxS. Charlie (penguinz0/MoistCritikal) doesnt even watch MxS with Lud this year. Also most of the teams this year are orgless/small orgs with the only big ones being m80 MxS OXG and TSM

Brimstan [#27]

Sen lucky emea sent in their b teams

Congrats to sentinels form winning a meaningless Mickey Mouse trophy

your "A" teams is struggling against giants lol stop yapping

Agx192 [#17]

Turtle troops owns m80 tho

turtle troop lost to Winthrop University💀

Hyopic [#30]

sub is the one that qualified do not sleep on the goat patitek

also fam SEN's IGL started ramadan a few days or a week before this im pretty sure lol, allg tho im jus fucking around

im p sure he broke his fast...

dylak [#8]

i know everyone complains about having low viewers n all but are there any other games that get good views for T2

A regular main stage japanese game gets 4x more viewers than emea games

koromast [#9]

no one wants to watch twt vs yfp, some years ago on vcl na you had sen vs 100t or c9 vs lg (way more interesting even tho the gameplay wasnt much better or any better)

I miss the yaboidre thief aproto LG days

Lucrix [#36]

im p sure he broke his fast...

Classic lack of commitment from fraudqt. Another reason why sentinels will fade into obscurity

Brimstan [#39]

Classic lack of commitment from fraudqt. Another reason why sentinels will fade into obscurity

you know you can break eat after the sun goes down or after the sunset (depends on shia or sunni)

i only watched last year cause of dsg, steel and yay

its going to be like this for a long time
just like how franchising destroyed league

First time?

dogecoin [#40]

you know you can break eat after the sun goes down or after the sunset (depends on shia or sunni)

obv, they aren't gonna starve for a month

also ramadan is over

BoDork [#43]

First time?

they def don't know what low viewership is do they

Lucrix [#36]

im p sure he broke his fast...

yeah, during the 3rd map lol

Brimstan [#32]

We dont need strats to beat reigonal teams, we're saving for 2028 chmps mumbai

ong ange1 is scripting out the entirety of champs 2042 for the next NAVI team (he will have passed of old age by then), every round scripted to the second. Masterclass in igling

koromast [#10]

vcl japan gets like 10k for regular league games and 50k on playoffs with a lot of jp streamers watch party-ing

i meant for NA i shoulda clarified

Danny [#35]

turtle troop lost to Winthrop University💀

Don't doubt me or wedid the goat ever again

Agx192 [#49]

Don't doubt me or wedid the goat ever again

Noted

XanXanUk [#41]

i only watched last year cause of dsg, steel and yay

Same