The most overrated team is NV, they think they are going to win Berlin after losing close maps to Sentinels and beating XSET who is their best matchup.
swaglord69 [#5]typical sentinels fan cant handle the fact that maybe other teams can beat ur team and ur not gonna be on the top forever
We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
mattgg2015 [#4]They looked good against SEN with only a few days of practice with yay
Sen won masters 1 with 1 day of practice before the tournament
swaglord69 [#5]typical sentinels fan cant handle the fact that maybe other teams can beat ur team and ur not gonna be on the top forever
FACTS THESE MFS EGO ALMOST AS BIG AS SHAZAMS
saucymother [#12]FACTS THESE MFS EGO ALMOST AS BIG AS SHAZAMS
Stfu faze fan your team is irrelevant and SEN shut them down in the only good tournament they will ever have
dyoun14 [#14]Stfu faze fan your team is irrelevant and SEN shut them down in the only good tournament they will ever have
why are we talking about faze rn that has nothing to do with this LMAO
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dyoun14 [#10]True but also NV
I just don't see that many people overrating NV tbh. I see a some people calling them very good and the 2nd best team in the world but that seems fair since they added Yay and almost beat the best team in the world.
dyoun14 [#20]Looking good with a few days of practice means nothing
That is the shittiest example you could've used to prove your point
shax4PF [#15]ur just saying this becuz NV is looking like real threat to sen now lol
Sure they are, I’ll believe it after they they win a single tournament
mattgg2015 [#16]Ok... and?
1 or 2 days b4 the masters 1 tenz join sentinels and they have only couple of hours to practice while Nv yay days practicing with Envy so.... SEN> NV
Nosey [#24]NA: TSM, NV (bit Overrated, that doesn't mean that they aren't the TOP 2/3 of NA)
EMEA: FPX, LULQUID, OXG
NV fans cant handle anyone saying the slightest thing bad about their team
dyoun14 [#20]Looking good with a few days of practice means nothing
I don’t think adding the best player to the best team while the rest of NA is in a slump is similar to envy’s situation
dyoun14 [#26]NV fans cant handle anyone saying the slightest thing bad about their team
a bit hypocritical doncha think?
MehulERR [#19]I just don't see that many people overrating NV tbh. I see a some people calling them very good and the 2nd best team in the world but that seems fair since they added Yay and almost beat the best team in the world.
Losing 2-0 isn’t almost winning
shax4PF [#29]a bit hypocritical doncha think?
idc if someone says something bad about SEN as long as it’s true
dyoun14 [#30]Losing 2-0 isn’t almost winning
it might of been 2-0 but the scores where 13-11 both maps? idk why ur trying so hard to prove that envy is overrated when all people have said is that they are the second best in na when they have proven that they are
Nosey [#24]NA: TSM, NV (bit Overrated, that doesn't mean that they aren't the TOP 2/3 of NA)
EMEA: FPX, LULQUID, OXG
LULQUID just stomped on the team that won 12 maps against G2 on the same map lmao.
Nosey [#24]NA: TSM, NV (bit Overrated, that doesn't mean that they aren't the TOP 2/3 of NA)
EMEA: FPX, LULQUID, OXG
no one is overrating oxg
mattgg2015 [#28]I don’t think adding the best player to the best team while the rest of NA is in a slump is similar to envy’s situation
Wdym Faze was completely dominant and by far the 2nd best team in NA unlike NV how was NA in a slump
6vine [#34]LULQUID just stomped on the team that won 12 maps against G2 on the same map lmao.
This "logic" really doesn't apply here. Maybe you should check all other 500+ examples for that matter.
This isn't a rock paper scissors game.
dyoun14 [#7]We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
"we"?? youre not part of the team dummy
Every single team is overrated at the moment. With how the dynamics are working, there is no team, minus Sentinels, that is possible to maintain any kind of dominance. EU and other regions not playing against NA makes any conversation about who is better right now automatically irrelevant. No way to determine anything until some inter-regional tournaments happen.
plebwong [#37]If you think NV is overrated, you shouldve seen Liquid and FPX
nobody overrates liquid, people don't belive them
swaglord69 [#33]it might of been 2-0 but the scores where 13-11 both maps? idk why ur trying so hard to prove that envy is overrated when all people have said is that they are the second best in na when they have proven that they are
You’re right they are the 2nd best team in NA, honestly they’re not that overrated either idk what I was on. But I still don’t think they are very close to SEN
HLTVtoxic [#42]nobody overrates liquid, people don't belive them
Ive never seen a fanbase as confident as Liquid fans. Also arent you a Liquid fan?
dyoun14 [#8]Sen won masters 1 with 1 day of practice before the tournament
worst comparison i have seen in the history of comparisons
6vine [#34]LULQUID just stomped on the team that won 12 maps against G2 on the same map lmao.
bro, Liquid is literally the nemesis of Oxygen, because the playstyle of Liquid is the counter of Oxygen playstyle. Also you need to remember that OXG didn't have a lot of time to prepare the match against Liquid
Nah, NV legit has a chance to do well. Especially if Yay can do what TenZ did under Shahzam and learn to not get caught out in meaningless deaths. NV is improving.
I'd probably list C9B as the most overrated team in recent memory. Not that they're garbage, but a lot of people even myself though they would be Top 3 team in NA. Maybe with Vanity they might have a resurgence.
plebwong [#44]Ive never seen a fanbase as confident as Liquid fans. Also arent you a Liquid fan?
i am a liquid fan, i dont think liquid fanbase is confident as much as they are loyal, we are loyal to liquid but realistic too.
plebwong [#44]Ive never seen a fanbase as confident as Liquid fans. Also arent you a Liquid fan?
What? Liquid probably has the least confident fanbases. Its always the non-liquid flairs that overrate them.
mattgg2015 [#4]They looked good against SEN with only a few days of practice with yay
or they were in a honeymoon. few days of practice means nothing here yay is a duelist he only needs to get a feel for the timing and nothing else. he doesnt need practice to get value out of his utility or his fragging power.
edtheking12 [#39]"we"?? youre not part of the team dummy
this mans feeding fans the reality here, feed him some stars for godssake
Xaster15 [#27]how shahzam EGOs BIG?
watch his stream? he gets to be egoistic cause they on top, but i wonder how he's gonna act when sentinels arent the best in the world anymore. shaz is easily the worst personality on sentinels.
MehulERR [#6]TSM or FPX IMO
agree fpx, just keeps choking bro why do their fans even believe anymore.
Alber [#21]Liquid
agreed, they are kinda dogwater considering they have jamppi and scream, they should be washing all emea teams but they still struggle heavily. worst firepower to results ratio in emea easily.
ranker11 [#3]TSM
TSM is not overrated they just have a lot of fans. People understand how good they are.
dyoun14 [#36]Wdym Faze was completely dominant and by far the 2nd best team in NA unlike NV how was NA in a slump
you proved your point by saying faze was the 2nd best in NA at the time you know its a slump when that is the case
hellaeleganceyeah [#56]watch his stream? he gets to be egoistic cause they on top, but i wonder how he's gonna act when sentinels arent the best in the world anymore. shaz is easily the worst personality on sentinels.
WTF did you you just say???????!!!!!!!
dyoun14 [#26]NV fans cant handle anyone saying the slightest thing bad about their team
bruh NV fans arent as toxic as tsm fans give them a break
dyoun14 [#10]True but also NV
yay literally said he was sick to the point where he sometimes couldn't even see his crosshair during the matches and had to take advil to be able to somewhat play? like stfu please
Adri98 [#52]FPX really clear. Ange1 the most overrated player. IGL, smoker and the number 1 on first deaths.
shao seriously needs a better dude he just enters the site and gets three kills with any agent please give that dude a better team
SamTheGreat47 [#59]TSM is not overrated they just have a lot of fans. People understand how good they are.
nope
swaglord69 [#5]typical sentinels fan cant handle the fact that maybe other teams can beat ur team and ur not gonna be on the top forever
NOOO BUT TENZ GOAT HE CRACKED HE DESTROY EVERY1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s
dyoun14 [#7]We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
you're really fitting the typical Sentinels fan lmao
How delusonal can you get?
saucymother [#17]why are we talking about faze rn that has nothing to do with this LMAO
because he's a Sentinels fan, he needs to attack the team you are a fan of because he's insecure
dyoun14 [#8]Sen won masters 1 with 1 day of practice before the tournament
yes but was there competition as good as the current sentinels? while nv has to face up against best player in val best igl in val best controller in val best sentinel in val sen went up against boomers. a lot of boomers
hellaeleganceyeah [#56]watch his stream? he gets to be egoistic cause they on top, but i wonder how he's gonna act when sentinels arent the best in the world anymore. shaz is easily the worst personality on sentinels.
Bro he is wholesome. He only talk back when the fans of other teams talk shit in chat. People really spam dead father in the chat, he deserves so much better.
swaglord69 [#5]typical sentinels fan cant handle the fact that maybe other teams can beat ur team and ur not gonna be on the top forever
yeah , ( hope im not associated with this dude , NV isnt overrated smh )
ShadowisBAD [#74]fpx , GOD when sean gares said fpx were best team in the world ( this was before sentinels won iceland ) i was like Oo ok they actually might be rly good , but they just choke , no offence to seangares and fpx fans
Shadow is just bad bro
Snakee [#75]Shadow is just bad bro
yeah im rly bad at valorant , ill agree with that xD , im bad at the game but know alot about it ( idk if thats good or bad )
Riizwan19xx [#72]Bro he is wholesome. He only talk back when the fans of other teams talk shit in chat. People really spam dead father in the chat, he deserves so much better.
im not defending the ones who spam dead father in chat. they should get banned from twitch.
hellaeleganceyeah [#77]im not defending the ones who spam dead father in chat. they should get banned from twitch.
YOU SHOULD BANNED HERE MOTHERFUCKER
Pogo [#78]Every na team apart from sen is crazy overrated they all go out first in Berlin
NA > EMEA
im officially over "fpx is the favorite in the tournament" or "fpx is one of the best teams in eu" or "angel one of the best igls in valorant eu" or "they have good firepower" this shit is over fpx is a team that hasn't achieved anything not a single championship since the beta and is always considered as a favourite.
FPX is top 10 at best
Xaster15 [#79]YOU SHOULD BANNED HERE MOTHERFUCKER
wow defending people who spam such hurtful words as "dead father" in shaz's chat, and you call yourself an sentinels fan. you should be ashamed of yourself, shaz is too.
hellaeleganceyeah [#82]wow defending people who spam such hurtful words as "dead father" in shaz's chat, and you call yourself an sentinels fan. you should be ashamed of yourself, shaz is too.
That is just sad bro. People really do things like these to seek attention. Pathetic 😞🙁
dyoun14 [#7]We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
I mean TSM was on the Top before, so was 100T, but not as long.
item [#84]Who thinks NV is gonna win Berlin? Most overrated team is probably TSM or FPX
NV taking it home baby
TrapSlayerSenpai [#71]yes but was there competition as good as the current sentinels? while nv has to face up against best player in val best igl in val best controller in val best sentinel in val sen went up against boomers. a lot of boomers
you really gonna do sick like that while including zombs?
SamTheGreat47 [#59]TSM is not overrated they just have a lot of fans. People understand how good they are.
how are you telling me coming dead last against the top 8 teams in NA right now means that they are good? this is the team people expected to go to berlin and beat Sentinels. dont give me that shit
dyoun14 [#36]Wdym Faze was completely dominant and by far the 2nd best team in NA unlike NV how was NA in a slump
how are they not going to berlin if they are the second best team in NA? every team in na got better than them and they failed to keep up. They lost to a tier 2 team (DZ) in the first qualifier for stage 3. They arent good.
dyoun14 [#7]We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
we will see at berlin...
KIPI [#88]still better than navi tho imagine losing to giants
bro smb won’t win any more games, take it easy kekw
unknown_trash [#91]how are you telling me coming dead last against the top 8 teams in NA right now means that they are good? this is the team people expected to go to berlin and beat Sentinels. dont give me that shit
Who the fuck expected them to beat sen or even win berlin lmao. People overestimated them going to berlin as they were on a good streak. Nobody expected them to beat sen, or even win berlin.
Raevus [#103]Who the fuck expected them to beat sen or even win berlin lmao. People overestimated them going to berlin as they were on a good streak. Nobody expected them to beat sen, or even win berlin.
oh no, you havent met the delusional TSM fans. good for you :)
edtheking12 [#39]"we"?? youre not part of the team dummy
sigh. every sports fan ever uses “we” or “us.”
dyoun14 [#7]We have been on the top forever and there is no evidence that we’re not going to be anytime soon
only on top rn cuz cleo, tenz much better than sinatraa
unknown_trash [#107]oh no, you havent met the delusional TSM fans. good for you :)
Oh I've met the delisional TSM fans. 90% of them are high as fuck on copium. Outside of these forums which you either have;
crazy tsm fans
boosted ego sen fans
delusional scream fans
then you have the cNed best player fans
then the cringy mwzera fans, which I probably summoned by typing the first 3 letters of his name.
However anyone who has any resemblance of a functioning human, could tell TSM had 0 chance of winning berlin. They had 1 player who had to perform out of his mind every match, just for them to win. When he didn't, they looked like they belonged in nsg monthy.
Ironic thing is, I'm a tsm fan when it comes to NA, because Wardell was my introduction into how a Jett plays, and his flashing style last year. Just I'm not gonna pretend that tsm arent a bottom t1 team at best.
Xaster15 [#25]1 or 2 days b4 the masters 1 tenz join sentinels and they have only couple of hours to practice while Nv yay days practicing with Envy so.... SEN> NV
#TenZdickriders
Riizwan19xx [#72]Bro he is wholesome. He only talk back when the fans of other teams talk shit in chat. People really spam dead father in the chat, he deserves so much better.
Lmao he just plays the victim in every situation
ExodusXML [#40]Every single team is overrated at the moment. With how the dynamics are working, there is no team, minus Sentinels, that is possible to maintain any kind of dominance. EU and other regions not playing against NA makes any conversation about who is better right now automatically irrelevant. No way to determine anything until some inter-regional tournaments happen.
^
hellaeleganceyeah [#82]wow defending people who spam such hurtful words as "dead father" in shaz's chat, and you call yourself an sentinels fan. you should be ashamed of yourself, shaz is too.
SPAMMING "dead father" haha im not that kind of person lmao, and im kinda sad that shahz father dead days b4 the first strike imagine the one who supports you died before the tournament
chicho5121 [#93]I think you just have to say FPX due to their result in these playoffs :/ Sad to see because they have always looked good until they get close to tourney wins and then just dissipate
Nah, I think everyone recognises they are currently not in the discussion after their playoff performance. They are no longer rated, period
Xaster15 [#81]im officially over "fpx is the favorite in the tournament" or "fpx is one of the best teams in eu" or "angel one of the best igls in valorant eu" or "they have good firepower" this shit is over fpx is a team that hasn't achieved anything not a single championship since the beta and is always considered as a favourite.
FPX is top 10 at best
correct. They need a big reinvention.
ExodusXML [#40]Every single team is overrated at the moment. With how the dynamics are working, there is no team, minus Sentinels, that is possible to maintain any kind of dominance. EU and other regions not playing against NA makes any conversation about who is better right now automatically irrelevant. No way to determine anything until some inter-regional tournaments happen.
This. But your comment will get lost in the sauce. Let the rabble continue argue.
unknown_trash [#107]oh no, you havent met the delusional TSM fans. good for you :)
You're getting fans "HOPES" vs "Expectations" mixed up. TSM fans didn't believe that sh^t at all
dyoun14 [#32]idc if someone says something bad about SEN as long as it’s true
idc either if someone says something bad about NV as long as it's true, but is def not true
SamTheGreat47 [#59]TSM is not overrated they just have a lot of fans. People understand how good they are.
people rated them top3 NA when they got Bang and Chet lol
swaglord69 [#5]typical sentinels fan cant handle the fact that maybe other teams can beat ur team and ur not gonna be on the top forever
well it will be like 87-0 NiP at least, dominate at start of the game
we will see if they fall off