A good way to Nerf Viper without killing her, would be to switch the signature with the orb.
Instead of getting the wall for free every round, she gets the poison orb, and needs to instead buy the wall, for like 300. That way you Nerf her economy, and she becomes less impactful on defense as her wall can't be thrown willy billy anymore
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nguyenboi [#2]not a bad idea ngl, rito should take notes
nah, the real way you nerf her is to make her wall/orb is to make it a radius instead of world wide, like KJ Util.
its a alright nerf without killing her, but also takes away that full blown lurk capability for offense and takes away being across the map on defense.
maybe tune down the decay a bit too or something
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#9]The beat way is to buff Harbor, and the rest of the sentinels.
Did you mean Sentinels (Sage, KJ, Cypher, Chamber) or controllers (Brim, Omen, Astra, Harbor)?
Tyekai [#12]Did you mean Sentinels (Sage, KJ, Cypher, Chamber) or controllers (Brim, Omen, Astra, Harbor)?
i meant Harbor and the sentinels agents
When chamber was meta, viper was never a must use on maps like split and fracture. Not only does the map pool favor viper really well she’s also just better to pick over sentinel agents (e.g. kj and cypher who were supposed to be meta since chamber nerf). If rito did some massive changes on the sentinel role we would probably have a more balanced meta an not see the likes of Viper every map
EntryKJ [#17]Just buff harbor, cypher, deadlock, KJ, sage.
Easier to nerf one agent then buff five seperate ones
If the other agents aren't providing good competition and therefore deservers a buff making people go to those agents, why not nerf the top agent and therefore make people go to the other agents? It could work both ways.
doomvor [#18]Easier to nerf one agent then buff five seperate ones
If the other agents aren't providing good competition and therefore deservers a buff making people go to those agents, why not nerf the top agent and therefore make people go to the other agents? It could work both ways.
Initiators and controllers give more value than sentinels right now.
Viper is not overpowered like Chamber was. Viper is just a better choice than sentinels for the current play style.
I agree with OP's nerf idea of switching the orb and wall.
EntryKJ [#19]Initiators and controllers give more value than sentinels right now.
Viper is not overpowered like Chamber was. Viper is just a better choice than sentinels for the current play style.
I agree with OP's nerf idea of switching the orb and wall.
Then why suggest buffing the other agents?
IceFoxx00 [#10]Something rito can do is remove the fuel bar and make it activation based. 2 activations that can be cancelled anytime but consumes a charge.
That would make her be more mindful of when to activate the smokes.
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doomvor [#20]Then why suggest buffing the other agents?
I was joking. You can nerf viper.
However, to have a balanced agent pick rate, it's not enough for agents to be at similar levels. You also need variety in maps. You need to make maps so that different agents are suitable on different maps. Otherwise, pros will start moving towards a few agents again after a while. Then you nerf again, and the cycle continues until all the agents have weaker abilities as time goes on.
The bigger issue in Valorant right now is the difference in value between movement duelists and non-movement duelists. Movement is valuable on every map, and flash initiators offer more value than flash duelists - leading to extremely low pick rates for flash duelists.
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