just watched the tmv video and he’s 100% correct. sen need to fix their map pool if they want to win madrid. like at least make icebox and ascent better
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TheAceGamer30 [#3]Their map pool is the reason why they are good lmao
what?
they’re great at sunset and split
good at lotus
inconsistent on bind
bad at breeze and ascent
their icebox was also iffy
michaelisupset [#7]what?
they’re great at sunset and split
good at lotus
inconsistent on bind
bad at breeze and ascent
their icebox was also iffy
I think Their icebox can be good, Sen has 3 great maps, Split, lotus and sunset, They only need to get better on One more map and i think icebox is The best option
michaelisupset [#7]what?
they’re great at sunset and split
good at lotus
inconsistent on bind
bad at breeze and ascent
their icebox was also iffy
they only lost twice on breeze and twice on ascent breeze they dont look too bad they can fix that map same with ascent icebox they look good on it idk why they ban it bind they just to find a another way to work with their yoru comp
Conceit [#10]I agree but I think they can still win Madrid. Could end up being an EG Tokyo situation where nobody bans their best map for some reason
Yeah maybe teams get cocky for no reason but yeah I definitely think teams like Paper Rex, EDG and KC want to find out how good their split actually is. The other teams will probably ban it and test how good their Sunset is.
Looking at it teams like KC, Gen.G even Heretics and EDG have pretty good map pool into Sentinels
I think people when it comes to rating sen map pool, they dont take in consideration the fact that sen have actually played the hardest teams in the americas at least, so when they look bad it does not necessarily reflect their true skill level (yeah i believe sen's ascent map is very bad and they need to work on it but apart that i think they are fine with all the other maps )
? Lol? Icebox is there perms ban and they lost to Loud and NRG on ascent , both who those teams picked that map because it’s there best map… Loud had the element of surprise and NRG ethan just was god for some reason.
Lotus, Split, Sunset Bind are perfectly fine
they 2 times they played breeze one was pointless and the other one they played better after the timeout so whatever they did after that keep doing but
mon471 [#15]That’s why RRQ is better than SEN. They don’t have a weak map!
You're right! RRQ so strong that they don't even need to be at Madrid to show how strong they are.
Goiz [#17]I think people when it comes to rating sen map pool, they dont take in consideration the fact that sen have actually played the hardest teams in the americas at least, so when they look bad it does not necessarily reflect their true skill level (yeah i believe sen's ascent map is very bad and they need to work on it but apart that i think they are fine with all the other maps )
Nah bro EMEA's Breeze, Lotus and even Icebox is easily better than Americas'
Their split and sunset are really damn good but those maps are literally good maps for a lot of teams at Madrid like KC, PRX and EDG.
What you said is probably true for Ascent but yeah their Ascent looked really bad so I don't think it matters.
Bind is a middle-ground map where all regions can beat each other
World Class on Sunset and Split,
Lotus looks good
Ascent can be fixed with review,
Bind is inconsistent I think they were hiding strats a bit besides the LEV game,
Icebox is good considering Icebox is LOUD's best map statistically that is in the pool Haven is the only map better at 88% winrate,
Breeze needs change like Yoru.
envyz [#21]World Class on Sunset and Split,
Lotus looks good
Ascent can be fixed with review,
Bind is inconsistent I think they were hiding strats a bit besides the LEV game,
Icebox is good considering Icebox is LOUD's best map statistically that is in the pool Haven is the only map better at 88% winrate,
Breeze needs change like Yoru.
I don't think they are hiding strats at bind. They just didn't cook anything new. Why would they still hide strats when loud were decimating them or 100t were decimating them on bind when 100t match was elim and louds match was worth 3 pts
ThunderBird [#23]I don't think they are hiding strats at bind. They just didn't cook anything new. Why would they still hide strats when loud were decimating them or 100t were decimating them on bind when 100t match was elim and louds match was worth 3 pts
Hiding Strats vs 100T cuz they were up a map? and had split map 3. of course they were hiding strats vs LOUD cuz they already qualified for Madrid and they have a shit ton of circuit points because they went thru playin.
envyz [#24]Hiding Strats vs 100T cuz they were up a map? and had split map 3. of course they were hiding strats vs LOUD cuz they already qualified for Madrid and they have a shit ton of circuit points because they went thru playin.
wait a sec. how tf they have circuit points cuz of play ins?. u get points for only winning final. same for madrid. u will get circuit points after split 1 when u start winning against other team(1 pt each win). so it was very important cuz u need nearly 8-10 points to confirm your champs and 3 is a big number. so i dont think they were like we already going madrid so lets stop trying. and even when they were 1 maps up against 100t they still would ve definitely started using new strats cuz u never know what other teams hae cooked for split and 100t's split looked good against lev. they definitely didnt have new strats for bind
meowchan [#11]being great at 2 maps doesn't win you tournaments
They are one of the best team in the world on sunset and split , their lotus looks good . Just need 1 more map and we gucci
Sinbad [#26]When is vitality going to play?
champions grand final lil bro whos stopping us with trexx lmfao
MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#8]but a gold sen super fan like you knows better?
Tmv is like plat to be fair
envyz [#21]World Class on Sunset and Split,
Lotus looks good
Ascent can be fixed with review,
Bind is inconsistent I think they were hiding strats a bit besides the LEV game,
Icebox is good considering Icebox is LOUD's best map statistically that is in the pool Haven is the only map better at 88% winrate,
Breeze needs change like Yoru.
That’s a little cope considering how close the 100t series was no? Like why would they just let 100t steamroll them on a map and get confidence
ThunderBird [#25]wait a sec. how tf they have circuit points cuz of play ins?. u get points for only winning final. same for madrid. u will get circuit points after split 1 when u start winning against other team(1 pt each win). so it was very important cuz u need nearly 8-10 points to confirm your champs and 3 is a big number. so i dont think they were like we already going madrid so lets stop trying. and even when they were 1 maps up against 100t they still would ve definitely started using new strats cuz u never know what other teams hae cooked for split and 100t's split looked good against lev. they definitely didnt have new strats for bind
you get circuit points for each win, as stated in the format and not on VLR, you get 3 circut points for every GF win in any event
babysasuke [#2]TMV just waffling bro
he likes to be different to farm impressions, does it all the time
envyz [#33]you get circuit points for each win, as stated in the format and not on VLR, you get 3 circut points for every GF win in any event
you don't get circuit points for wins in kickoff
envyz [#33]you get circuit points for each win, as stated in the format and not on VLR, you get 3 circut points for every GF win in any event
bro if thats the case then sen hhas already qualified for champs lmao. 3 from final+5 from wins lmao 8 is nearly enough for u to qualify for champs.
Pengu12 [#32]That’s a little cope considering how close the 100t series was no? Like why would they just let 100t steamroll them on a map and get confidence
ikr, even loud were steamrolling them on bind
TheAceGamer30 [#3]Their map pool is the reason why they are good lmao
Xd downvote me lol their only bad maps are ascent and breeze lol
TheAceGamer30 [#13]they only lost twice on breeze and twice on ascent breeze they dont look too bad they can fix that map same with ascent icebox they look good on it idk why they ban it bind they just to find a another way to work with their yoru comp
punctuation PLEASE
TheAceGamer30 [#38]Xd downvote me lol their only bad maps are ascent and breeze lol
Bind is also ass from them tbh. I never looked at their Bind like "wow, that was impressive" for any of their rounds. It's a very easy map for some teams, and those teams will ABUSE Bind if they get the chance. It looks weak and easily anti-stratted, I think they give up Yoru or opt for a surprise comp including Yoru.
milflover92 [#40]Bind is also ass from them tbh. I never looked at their Bind like "wow, that was impressive" for any of their rounds. It's a very easy map for some teams, and those teams will ABUSE Bind if they get the chance. It looks weak and easily anti-stratted, I think they give up Yoru or opt for a surprise comp including Yoru.
Their bind is still good what? It’s just that teams are starting to understand how to counter the comp so what sen needs to do is come with a new gameplan with their comp which they can easily do with the time they have
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