C0M looooooowkey calling the OPTIC core washed

he said on stream that Demon1 and Ethan are too good for their teammates, pretty much saying that the OPTIC core aint allat. He even says crashies tried to mimic his own playstyle, pretty much suggesting that they're trying to play like 2023 EG but they're not them.

im torn on this guys i loved 2023 EG but he said my team is fucking mickey mouse dogshit compared to the best team ever and idk what to feel about this. Obviously if EG stuck together for this tourney they probably wouldn't drop a map but NRG can do the same right??

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2068541623 watch from 00:15:41 for a few mins for better context

hey be nice to c0mster !!! no mean words !

who cares

yoccuu [#2]

who cares

Dragon Ranger Gaming

I mean it makes sense that they would try to emulate EG from last year, realistically the optic core is still good but obviously the EG core is probably better since they did better last year. Also DRG sweeps 🗿

Conceit [#4]

I mean it makes sense that they would try to emulate EG from last year, realistically the optic core is still good but obviously the EG core is probably better since they did better last year. Also DRG sweeps 🗿

should've offered Potter or Boostio a bajillion dollars then :(

facts

C0M learned too much from Boostio

I hope they both make it but an international without LOUD also feels wrong

Americas robbed once again

Last year NRG and even Fnatic tried to mimic EG fracture gameplay but failed....
shows that only C0M Sova can utilize that utils and calls properly.

jawg and boostio just watching this from the sidelines like damn

c0m is overrated.

cartixuzi [#5]

should've offered Potter or Boostio a bajillion dollars then :(

For eel, if NRG had balls they would've signed all of EG (the reserve too if they're feeling spicy :3)

giftofgame [#10]

c0m is overrated.

ah yes the best sova on the world overrated

c0m and crashies play differently. c0m lurking all the time while crashies is more with the group

derptz [#8]

Last year NRG and even Fnatic tried to mimic EG fracture gameplay but failed....
shows that only C0M Sova can utilize that utils and calls properly.

How did Fnatic fail?

They played the Sova comp once and won that game

Everyone was banning Fracture against both EG and Fnatic since Fnatic was the clear 2nd best team at Fracture behind EG and everyone else was miles behind them.

He's so right about this

All of them clear their counterparts and the synergy they had will not be built in 123 either so maybe at the end of the year we can compare the 2 but for now the individuals on EG are clearly better.

cartixuzi [#3]

Dragon Ranger Gaming

clears nrg

yoccuu [#2]

who cares

I care

Honestly OPTIC revolved around the chamber meta with yay and that's what made them so dominant, but with EG you had the best sova, an aim god, one of the best IGLs, probably the best support player and an explosive raze, it was a truly especial team if they stayed together :(

Dw bro NRG will stomp them down soon enough ♥️

Bro gets an ego after 1 winning 1 champs and forgets who has been owning him and his region for years

Bro cannot be talking all that after almost losing to 100bots

When I watch LEV it looks like Aspas and friends

Praying on LEV’s downfall now 🙏

yoccuu [#16]

clears nrg

NOT demon1 and ethan https://www.vlr.gg/248273/evil-geniuses-vs-edward-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

Asuna_Yuuki [#19]

Dw bro NRG will stomp them down soon enough ♥️

Bro gets an ego after 1 winning 1 champs and forgets who has been owning him and his region for years

Bro cannot be talking all that after almost losing to 100bots

When I watch LEV it looks like Aspas and friends

Praying on LEV’s downfall now 🙏

thats loud little guy, your team got owned by bilibili

BRAZILIANHATER [#21]

thats loud little guy, your team got owned by bilibili

Different team

bro should respect his elders

Asuna_Yuuki [#17]

I care

who r u ?

copied his playstyle? bro acting like he invented lurking, besides his lurks rarely even worked. for every good lurk he had there were 5 where he was a free kill

Conceit [#4]

I mean it makes sense that they would try to emulate EG from last year, realistically the optic core is still good but obviously the EG core is probably better since they did better last year. Also DRG sweeps 🗿

How are they trying to emulate EG from last year?

NRG literally played the most default style possible against Furia

What about their game told you they are trying to copy EG

If anything, they aren’t trying to copy EG based off of the recent scrim leaks

cartixuzi [#20]

NOT demon1 and ethan https://www.vlr.gg/248273/evil-geniuses-vs-edward-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

edg and drg are different teams! hope this helps

XtraChrxs [#27]

edg and drg are different teams! hope this helps

whos the best CN team right now and tell me if they made any changes

Asuna_Yuuki [#26]

How are they trying to emulate EG from last year?

NRG literally played the most default style possible against Furia

What about their game told you they are trying to copy EG

If anything, they aren’t trying to copy EG based off of the recent scrim leaks

It's not a bad thing lmao. If anything it's a good thing, it shows they're adapting with the times. Anyways I'm not gonna debate with you about this since I've seen how you argue with people :3

cartixuzi [#28]

whos the best CN team right now and tell me if they made any changes

how does this relate to what i said stop sounding stupid + blg 4-0

uwukitten [#25]

copied his playstyle? bro acting like he invented lurking, besides his lurks rarely even worked. for every good lurk he had there were 5 where he was a free kill

Bro the ego on c0m is insane

He actually thinks he is him

And its funny how he is criticizing the OpTic core when his team is filled with players who have never done anything of note in their career

Mazino and kingg spent last year being mediocre and tex won ascension and has been bad so far on LEV

Now bro is trying to say crashies is copying him just because he lurked a bit

ALSO WHEN DID CRASHIES LURK? BRO WAS LITERALLY ALWAYS WITH THE TEAM ON ATTACK

XtraChrxs [#30]

how does this relate to what i said stop sounding stupid + blg 4-0

Demon1 & Ethan by themselves > EDG > rest of China (including DRG)! hope this helps

cartixuzi [#32]

Demon1 & Ethan by themselves > EDG > rest of China (including DRG)! hope this helps

oh its giving deluded maniac

bros a bit pressed he missed out on the na salary ig

literally no need to be insinuating that j talk your shit after you beat nrg if you are that confident u are better

chet is a very competent coach and obviously was willing to drop members of the core if c0m rlly deserved the spot he wouldve gotten it

fuck that dude.

Conceit [#29]

It's not a bad thing lmao. If anything it's a good thing, it shows they're adapting with the times. Anyways I'm not gonna debate with you about this since I've seen how you argue with people :3

Genuinely, how did they copy EG

I want to know

XtraChrxs [#33]

oh its giving deluded maniac

says the guy comparing 2023 NRG to themselves rn when they have the two players that went a combined +43 against the best CN team lol

cartixuzi [#36]

says the guy comparing 2023 NRG to themselves rn when they have the two players that went a combined +43 against the best CN team lol

Previous best* DRG sweep incoming 😇

fawning [#12]

ah yes the best sova on the world overrated

Leo and crashies clear c0m

victor and marved are washed but crashies not

Conceit [#37]

Previous best* DRG sweep incoming 😇

makes sense then !!!

Asuna_Yuuki [#19]

Dw bro NRG will stomp them down soon enough ♥️

Bro gets an ego after 1 winning 1 champs and forgets who has been owning him and his region for years

Bro cannot be talking all that after almost losing to 100bots

When I watch LEV it looks like Aspas and friends

Praying on LEV’s downfall now 🙏

edit just a few more times so you dont look like a stupid nrg fan

cartixuzi [#40]

makes sense then !!!

I'm glad we've come to an agreement 😊

pugz [#39]

victor and marved are washed but crashies not

Bro DID YOU SEE VICTOR OUT THERE VS FURIA?

He couldn’t be stopped in the 1v1s

It was a complete masterclass

Marved didn’t perform but he will shake the rust off

Asuna_Yuuki [#35]

Genuinely, how did they copy EG

I want to know

by having near perfect util, something only EG can achieve skskskskkss

pugz [#39]

victor and marved are washed but crashies not

nah, crashies and marved are washed but victor is not

he said my team is fucking mickey mouse dogshit compared to the best team ever

tf lmao? he just pointed out an observation about the way NRG played their first game, never said the OPTIC core was washed, even complimented them and said they were all really good players

how tf can ppl not take a little bit of differing opinion about their own team before jumping to conclusions

valcygnus [#46]

he said my team is fucking mickey mouse dogshit compared to the best team ever

tf lmao? he just pointed out an observation about the way NRG played their first game, never said the OPTIC core was washed, even complimented them and said they were all really good players

how tf can ppl not take a little bit of differing opinion about their own team before jumping to conclusions

that part was a joke you silly billy, my sweet prince would never say that

Bruh why is he talking so much shit now lmao bro is jealous that Ethan and Demon1 chose better teammates than him. Fuck that guy c00m I can’t wait for him to get diffed by crashies. Btw crashies ain’t copying your late lurk playstyle that teams are starting to catch on 🤣🤣🤣🤣 mf mad that NRG chose crashies over him

Asuna_Yuuki [#31]

Bro the ego on c0m is insane

He actually thinks he is him

And its funny how he is criticizing the OpTic core when his team is filled with players who have never done anything of note in their career

Mazino and kingg spent last year being mediocre and tex won ascension and has been bad so far on LEV

Now bro is trying to say crashies is copying him just because he lurked a bit

ALSO WHEN DID CRASHIES LURK? BRO WAS LITERALLY ALWAYS WITH THE TEAM ON ATTACK

Agreed. It's also just immaturity. Idk if he actually copied him or not, but why wouldn't pros copy the success of other pros? It's just logical. Teams steal comps from teams all the time. This wouldn't be different

valcygnus [#46]

he said my team is fucking mickey mouse dogshit compared to the best team ever

tf lmao? he just pointed out an observation about the way NRG played their first game, never said the OPTIC core was washed, even complimented them and said they were all really good players

how tf can ppl not take a little bit of differing opinion about their own team before jumping to conclusions

Thanks to the comments of the people in this discussion, I'm 95% convinced that they didn't even watch the stream.

Bruh does he expect Ethan to just come up with an entirely new style of gameplay. Obviously they’re gonna implement EG’s style when the new IGL of the team just spent an entire year WHERE THEY WON CHAMPS on that team. If you know anything about NRG/ Chet’s style you can see it’s a combination. They come in with a super good game plan for conditioning and rely on good mid rounding if that plan doesn’t work out great which it usually does. Most of what NRG showed was just the teams game plan. Furia was hard pushed to make NRG adapt.

NA are ego andies but seeing how NA tier 2 talents are carrying other region nothing u can do unless apac and emea step it up.

Asuna_Yuuki [#43]

Bro DID YOU SEE VICTOR OUT THERE VS FURIA?

He couldn’t be stopped in the 1v1s

It was a complete masterclass

Marved didn’t perform but he will shake the rust off

These kids forgetting how Victor dominated the Americas League last year.

Asuna_Yuuki [#38]

Leo and crashies clear c0m

doesnt mean hes overrated are you dumb

Asuna_Yuuki [#38]

Leo and crashies clear c0m

whered they place in champs? kekw

clown shit imo. Victor and crashies clear him. EG were NOTHING until demon1 joined. Even before franchising.

this whole thread shows exactly why everyone on vlr is a virgin loser taking everything so seriously

emmanuel374631_ [#54]

doesnt mean hes overrated are you dumb

If general consensus is that c0m is the best sova in the world, then yes, I think c0m is overrated

NioMS [#15]

He's so right about this

All of them clear their counterparts and the synergy they had will not be built in 123 either so maybe at the end of the year we can compare the 2 but for now the individuals on EG are clearly better.

Marved > jawgemo
Crashies > c0m
Victor > Boostio

In terms of firepower

BRAZILIANHATER [#41]

edit just a few more times so you dont look like a stupid nrg fan

What did I say that was wrong

The fact of the natter is that NRG is a team of champions, and LEV isn’t

Asuna_Yuuki [#59]

Marved > jawgemo
Crashies > c0m
Victor > Boostio

In terms of firepower

idk abt the victor and boostio one… Marved sure, in 2022 maybe, but jawgemo was going crazy in 2023, not sure if I agree with ur take as it stands

Asuna_Yuuki [#60]

What did I say that was wrong

The fact of the natter is that NRG is a team of champions, and LEV isn’t

nrg have 2 CHAMPIONS and 3 MASTERS WINNER, lev have 2 CHAMPIONS, when you win a master your title in the game says "masters winner" when you win a champions it says "VCT 202X CHAMPIONS" thats the diference between a winner and a champion.

uwukitten [#45]

nah, crashies and marved are washed but victor is not

Crashies was 5th highest rated NA player last year

Which was better than 2021

Marved was just on a bad team

fawning [#12]

ah yes the best sova on the world overrated

this didnt age well eh? dang... pretty terrible showing from 'the best'

Does anyone have the clip? I missed it

buttholehair [#55]

whered they place in champs? kekw

Leo 1st twice in a row but only Champs matters? Seems legit.
1st, 1st, 4th vs. 9th-16th, 2nd, 1st. You tell me, what looks better? I don't even like FNATIC all that much but the logic here makes no fucking sense.

Not wrong lol