its not cned or wardell cause they didnt make it to lan even. Id give more props to penny or derke than those who didnt make it to lan as they actually showed up and bossed around in lan. who from the icelan was the best op? tenz, shaz? letmekno.
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SUPREMOCOC [#2]Cned and keloqz.
keloqz looks nasty but g2 needs to polish up a little bit, then theyre easily in berlin
hellaeleganceyeah [#3]keloqz looks nasty but g2 needs to polish up a little bit, then theyre easily in berlin
Yeah, I think in this month they can prepare really well.
Tzuyu [#6]Cned is the best awper I've seen so far. In NA it has to be Shaz or Wardell.
TenZ is a better jett/player but not a better awper.
He still more consistent than keloqz that's why I put him above
Zortex [#5]Mix, Tenz, CnED , Shazam , Penny , Jamppi , etc >Keloqz
Keloqz not that good with op not very consistent but when he is on fire he can carry a game but I wouldn't put him has the best oper
But jamppi is worse than all these players with OP
Valorant is still too young game to talk about who the best is, cause we just had one LAN tournament. Lets wait like 2-3 years when we hopefully can get many LAN tournaments and we can speak about who the best OPer is or the best rifler, team etc.
Cned proved online that he is a beast, but he is a no name coming to Valorant and be the best? Idk man, he may be cheating..we have seen many situations like that in CSGO as forsaken was a beast, and he got detected. Flusha too..and many other players. Who proves on LAN, for me is the best. As of right now only Derke,Tenz and ScreaM proved that.
I don’t agree with your point. First of all the game has evolved since Iceland and probably the best op right now wasn’t the best when Iceland happened. Also qualifing not only depends on you, your team is very important, Wardell and cNed hard carry’s their teams many times and still not qualify. And finally Eu had single elimination bracket, Tenz wouldn’t have made it to Berlin with that system either
feaN [#11]Valorant is still too young game to talk about who the best is, cause we just had one LAN tournament. Lets wait like 2-3 years when we hopefully can get many LAN tournaments and we can speak about who the best OPer is or the best rifler, team etc.
Cned proved online that he is a beast, but he is a no name coming to Valorant and be the best? Idk man, he may be cheating..we have seen many situations like that in CSGO as forsaken was a beast, and he got detected. Flusha too..and many other players. Who proves on LAN, for me is the best. As of right now only Derke,Tenz and ScreaM proved that.
what I dissagree with you is the fact that you are calling cNed a cheater cNed played a fps game called "zula" which is the turkish version of csgo so he had a lot of fps expericence before coming to valorant also he streams everyday and valorants anti cheat is WAAAAY to good for him to be able to cheat for a whole year
feaN [#11]Valorant is still too young game to talk about who the best is, cause we just had one LAN tournament. Lets wait like 2-3 years when we hopefully can get many LAN tournaments and we can speak about who the best OPer is or the best rifler, team etc.
Cned proved online that he is a beast, but he is a no name coming to Valorant and be the best? Idk man, he may be cheating..we have seen many situations like that in CSGO as forsaken was a beast, and he got detected. Flusha too..and many other players. Who proves on LAN, for me is the best. As of right now only Derke,Tenz and ScreaM proved that.
Can you prove that you’re not an alien trying to destroy the world by creating caos with this comment??? No, right??? Innocent until proven guilty
Mortadelo [#12]I don’t agree with your point. First of all the game has evolved since Iceland and probably the best op right now wasn’t the best when Iceland happened. Also qualifing not only depends on you, your team is very important, Wardell and cNed hard carry’s their teams many times and still not qualify. And finally Eu had single elimination bracket, Tenz wouldn’t have made it to Berlin with that system either
my point was that people cant call anyone the best oper until we kow how they turn up at lan. its not their fault that thye arent at lan but the lan is the best metric we have.
feaN [#11]Valorant is still too young game to talk about who the best is, cause we just had one LAN tournament. Lets wait like 2-3 years when we hopefully can get many LAN tournaments and we can speak about who the best OPer is or the best rifler, team etc.
Cned proved online that he is a beast, but he is a no name coming to Valorant and be the best? Idk man, he may be cheating..we have seen many situations like that in CSGO as forsaken was a beast, and he got detected. Flusha too..and many other players. Who proves on LAN, for me is the best. As of right now only Derke,Tenz and ScreaM proved that.
"may be cheating" where is the accusation even coming from? that hes just too good?
alara_acendfan [#17]cned’s the best op and he will show up just wait and see
your argument is absolute nonsense but thank you cuz these nonsense arguments are what made cned more ambitious on the way to masters 3
i hope he does but until then theres no argument that hes the best. he may flop like tenz did on cs. you never know.
hellaeleganceyeah [#16]my point was that people cant call anyone the best oper until we kow how they turn up at lan. its not their fault that thye arent at lan but the lan is the best metric we have.
Do you prefer "best online Oper"?
Mentiey [#27]you are so delusional
That’s what they all say and then they find out my takes are actually right and come to respect me (like that andbox fan firell)
ChupappiWardell [#30]That’s what they all say and then they find out my takes are actually right and come to respect me (like that andbox fan firell)
"my takes are actually right" proceeds to call EU tier 3
Mentiey [#36]have you ever watched a eu game after reykjavik?
its just a joke i watch EU and they are good =)
Mentiey [#39]why do you watch TSM then?
andbox was tier 1 btw watch plat chat and the shit rankings that they have......
Aris [#40]andbox was tier 1 btw watch plat chat and the shit rankings that they have......
I don't hate tsm but most of their recent games are against tier 2,3 teams
Mentiey [#41]I don't hate tsm but most of their recent games are against tier 2,3 teams
andbox was top 8 NA that is what evreyone said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rr0sPKn-1w&t=7910s
Zortex [#5]Mix, Tenz, CnED , Shazam , Penny , Jamppi , etc >Keloqz
Keloqz not that good with op not very consistent but when he is on fire he can carry a game but I wouldn't put him has the best oper
Jamppi?
Aris [#42]andbox was top 8 NA that is what evreyone said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rr0sPKn-1w&t=7910s
I think with the edition of LeviathanAG Tsm started to perform better I hope they make it to playoffs
Mentiey [#44]I think with the edition of LeviathanAG Tsm started to perform better I hope they make it to playoffs
ye LeviathanAG is a good sova good pick up by TSM
Mentiey [#44]I think with the edition of LeviathanAG Tsm started to perform better I hope they make it to playoffs
TSM is tier 1 team so is andbox but for EU even squrrel squad would shit on acend
ChupappiWardell [#46]TSM is tier 1 team so is andbox but for EU even squrrel squad would shit on acend
Not sure about TSM being Tier 1 right now, they have to keep proving themselves before saying that
Mortadelo [#47]Not sure about TSM being Tier 1 right now, they have to keep proving themselves before saying that
Shut up I’m never wrong
R4BOCOP [#22]cNed by far, but Mix, Tenz, CnED , Shazam with a god mode day can do great things
Kellogz is promising, but still has a lot to prove.
keloqz is a better rifler i feel like. get tenz vibes from him rather than oper.
mAko [#50]not the disrespect on my boy wardell. On his good days he can rival cned for sure
he needs to do it against t1 teams in na. hopefully he will in a few days.
Ibis [#28]That’s worse
You can downfrag me liquid fans but you have to admit that jamppi is missing many shots and just not on the level of shazam cNed penny Wardell etc yet
vern [#23]For NA its best fragging Jett is Tenz.. All-round is probably Shahz? Oping is Wardell
nobody asked about bestfragging or allround
simply who is the best awper.
Zaynio [#57]I'm not sure why people think that if you have the best awper, you have the best team. That's a complete fallacy lol. Just look at KennyS, best awper of all time in CSGO, and his team didn't always win or remain within the top 5. They were inconsistent asf.
they dont. my point is that unless they are tested in lan against top team from around the world it is a little too early to call them the "best in the world".
hellaeleganceyeah [#58]they dont. my point is that unless they are tested in lan against top team from around the world it is a little too early to call them the "best in the world".
That's a fair point. Until LAN (maybe Berlin will be the first actual LAN?), it's really hard to say whos the best AWPER due to ping disparities and what not. But people counting out Acend because they didn't qualify for Iceland (at the time) and therefore cNed were complete idiots. I think that partially applies to Wardell and TSM.
But yeah, you are spot on. Can't judge till LAN.
Mentiey [#41]I don't hate tsm but most of their recent games are against tier 2,3 teams
Might be wrong, but isn't he only top10 team tsm has beat this whole year, only been GEN G who they beat twice, and v1 who they beat once? so 3 or so top 10 matches this whole year.
Ibis [#53]You can downfrag me liquid fans but you have to admit that jamppi is missing many shots and just not on the level of shazam cNed penny Wardell etc yet
umm no, as we are talking abt specifically on op jamppi never misses his first ct side kill which i remember in matches against fpx and fnatic in iceland qualifiers. he's an inconsistent jett player especially on t side but isnt what we are talking about
Zaynio [#57]I'm not sure why people think that if you have the best awper, you have the best team. That's a complete fallacy lol. Just look at KennyS, best awper of all time in CSGO, and his team didn't always win or remain within the top 5. They were inconsistent asf.
back when he was on EnVyUs, he was the best awper. Dude was similar to scream, wher ehe was amazing in 2016, but never regained that height of excellence that he showed. Of the mid 2010s, he was the best awper. Of all time, I'd say s1mple, or dev1ce takes that now. In the future, it will most likely be zywoo, and Jame who are classed as the best. Zywoo atm is the only player that can content s1mple. Well, last year zywoo, this year he's struggled.
also weirdly enough, g2 are performing better without kenny s. amanek awping has been amazing, and the riflers have stepped up.
Mortadelo [#47]Not sure about TSM being Tier 1 right now, they have to keep proving themselves before saying that
he is baiting bro
Tzuyu [#6]Cned is the best awper I've seen so far. In NA it has to be Shaz or Wardell.
TenZ is a better jett/player but not a better awper.
You are right. Shahzam is definitely the better oper in Sentinels.
hellaeleganceyeah [#20]i hope he does but until then theres no argument that hes the best. he may flop like tenz did on cs. you never know.
TenZ flopped because he was bad at cs. He was a tier 3 players who got booked to play in tier 1 in a blink of an eye.
He never proved himself in tier 1, unlike cned
Garry [#71]just because a player didn't made it to LAN, it doesn't mean he is a bad oper... Valo is a team game no matter how good a player ops but he can't do anything if the team is not good enough
yeah true, but without LAN, it's hard to say who is the best awper, cuz good ping gives huge awping advantage
plebwong [#73]yeah true, but without LAN, it's hard to say who is the best awper, cuz good ping gives huge awping advantage
cned plays on 50-60ping
ChupappiWardell [#70]I’m not baiting. If you know me you would know I’m not baiting.
one look at your profile is enough to know
Mentiey [#77]one look at your profile is enough to know
Yeah who said tsm was going to beat andbox? Who said Wardell would top frag? Me. Now stfu and put some respect on my name and my takes
ChupappiWardell [#78]Yeah who said tsm was going to beat andbox? Who said Wardell would top frag? Me. Now stfu and put some respect on my name and my takes
who else would have top fragged. Bang?
Mentiey [#79]who else would have top fragged. Bang?
we will see Tsm in 2 hours so your predictions?
Mentiey [#76]cned plays on 50-60ping
in ranked, but in matches the admins must choose the server with the most balanced ping rate from both sides so who knows
Mentiey [#80]we will see Tsm in 2 hours so your predictions?
Tsm 2-0 dz Wardell top frag I’m never wrong
eSBee [#69]the fact cned did not make it to a LAN event doesnt prove that he is not a good oper, we are discussing individual skillset here. so i really do not think neither cned or wardell should rejected from the discussion
they are very good opers, with the chance of being the best in the world. my point is that unless they are tested in lan against top team from around the world it is a little too early to call them the "best in the world".
Garry [#71]just because a player didn't made it to LAN, it doesn't mean he is a bad oper... Valo is a team game no matter how good a player ops but he can't do anything if the team is not good enough
my point is that unless they are tested in lan against top team from around the world it is a little too early to call them the "best oper in the world".
exero [#85]Derke and Tenz are riflers they're not opers. Derke is slept on though, 3 MVP's in the vct
i mean about how they showed up and didnt fail in lan like people expected tenz to do. derke is insane, boaster needs to stop making him do weird shit tho, just let the man jett.
PotatoCh1ps [#89]Everyone is a great oper until Skrossi enters the lobby
games against unknowns dont count.
hellaeleganceyeah [#84]my point is that unless they are tested in lan against top team from around the world it is a little too early to call them the "best oper in the world".
Yeah! I agree but it was just first LAN event of Valorant. Lets wait for more LAN and then we can discuss this.
plebwong [#81]in ranked, but in matches the admins must choose the server with the most balanced ping rate from both sides so who knows
Wdym who knows? What are they gonna do? Play on Istanbul Server because there is 1 Turkish? None of the EU servers are good for cNed, the best one is frankfurt and most of the games are played on frankfurt bcz its in the middle of europe and cned gets 40-50 ping on frankfurt.
PrTsty [#96]U are dumb if u think u cant be the best OPer because u didnt make it to LAN, what logic is that
(most probably not but) maybe cned and wardell will choke in lan like tenz did in cs. first play with the best of the world, then you get the title "best oper in the world".
Zortex [#5]Mix, Tenz, CnED , Shazam , Penny , Jamppi , etc >Keloqz
Keloqz not that good with op not very consistent but when he is on fire he can carry a game but I wouldn't put him has the best oper
Not the best oper yet, I truly think he has the potential to be.
As we are now, you are 100% correct tho
Ibis [#53]You can downfrag me liquid fans but you have to admit that jamppi is missing many shots and just not on the level of shazam cNed penny Wardell etc yet
nah jamppii is lowkey cracked
hellaeleganceyeah [#83]they are very good opers, with the chance of being the best in the world. my point is that unless they are tested in lan against top team from around the world it is a little too early to call them the "best in the world".
totally agree, but with one LAN events, we still have a lot of time discuss these matters
feaN [#11]Valorant is still too young game to talk about who the best is, cause we just had one LAN tournament. Lets wait like 2-3 years when we hopefully can get many LAN tournaments and we can speak about who the best OPer is or the best rifler, team etc.
Cned proved online that he is a beast, but he is a no name coming to Valorant and be the best? Idk man, he may be cheating..we have seen many situations like that in CSGO as forsaken was a beast, and he got detected. Flusha too..and many other players. Who proves on LAN, for me is the best. As of right now only Derke,Tenz and ScreaM proved that.
hhahahaha flusha?? he not have cheats haha lmao
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