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#1
cartixuzi

I feel like his early aggression most of the time has him die in positions that are too hard or just straight up impossible to trade for and that shit has been holding him and his team back severely. We talk about how well coordinated SEN are but Zekken keeps trying to do his own thing trying to be the ideal early impact duelist by hard coinflipping a lot of fights.

This is also interesting because usually teams are played around their duelist when they need aggression, whereas SEN seem to operate just fine saving their util for themselves through some strong calling and individual plays if something like zekken dying alone in showers or him losing the first duel after satcheling down mid happens.

Round 10 of DRX v SEN Bind is the perfect example of this issue even when Zekken is part of the team's direct offense, because even though SEN had the ingredients for an easy site take, Zekken ends up messing it up completely by going for the engage and wasting Raze ult before Sacy's Skye or even TenZ's Yoru can throw out a flash, in which they then piled on for Zellsis as if he was their duelist instead lol. The round that follows right after is also another example of his lack of discipline to even play for info properly. These are very, very fundamental mistakes being made mind you when compared to the best of the best.

This could be a lack off calling on Zekken's side to get the support he needs when he wants it and/or a weakness in JohnQT's calling to incorporate an entire teammate in rounds properly. SEN haven't met a team that can punish this but they eventually will. Zekken adopted this type of playstyle some time ago that's been losing them a lot of rounds for free, but because SEN have been winning, I think they thought it was all good until today gave a glimpse on what would happen if Zekken has a slight off day, 3/16 FK:FD galore.

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AlmartAn
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No, next question

#3
giantnutsack12345
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He will still be the GOAT

#4
lyprum
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AlmartAn [#2]

No, next question

u did not read allat

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cartixuzi
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giantnutsack12345 [#3]

He will still be the GOAT

real

#6
AlmartAn
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lyprum [#4]

u did not read allat

I did

#7
Pengu12
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Unfortunately the attack plans for Sen aren’t there yet, zekken gets space but doesn’t have the coordination to help him so often looks lost and doesn’t get traded

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lyprum
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AlmartAn [#6]

I did

op was more of a statement than a question..

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cartixuzi
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Pengu12 [#7]

Unfortunately the attack plans for Sen aren’t there yet, zekken gets space but doesn’t have the coordination to help him so often looks lost and doesn’t get traded

except that there are a lot of rounds where Zekken isn't even capable of taking space, that's why this issue is a lot bigger than it seems

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AlmartAn
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lyprum [#8]

op was more of a statement than a question..

Then, "true, next question"

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pessi_41
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To add. After recent buffs, CT side Cypher makes it hard for the entries. Sliggy was also saying something like that.

Only up from here.

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cartixuzi
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pessi_41 [#11]

To add. After recent buffs, CT side Cypher makes it hard for the entries. Sliggy was also saying something like that.

Only up from here.

can you elaborate on that im like half asleep rn

#13
spectre300
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dude just STFU he had a bad day that's it

#14
Hades_Loves_Rb
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take out zekken put in pancada ez solution

#15
bhggjkl
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pessi_41 [#11]

To add. After recent buffs, CT side Cypher makes it hard for the entries. Sliggy was also saying something like that.

Only up from here.

I think yoru is gonna be really nice bc u can just tp over all those trips

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CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN
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he used to shit sen where he had to make those plays

#17
cartixuzi
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spectre300 [#13]

dude just STFU he had a bad day that's it

?

#18
sn4ke_gg
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spectre300 [#13]

dude just STFU he had a bad day that's it

It’s funny cus when that happens to Sacy, mfs are quick to ask to bench him

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spectre300
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sn4ke_gg [#18]

It’s funny cus when that happens to Sacy, mfs are quick to ask to bench him

when that happens to pancada, mfs are quick to ask to bench him
when that happens to tenz, mfs are quick to ask to bench him
when that happens to any mf, mfs are quick to ask to bench him
welcome to VLR .gg

#20
ash_knuckles
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relax. off days happen

#21
cartixuzi
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ash_knuckles [#20]

relax. off days happen

thats not the point at all

#22
Zerphyr1
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aint reading allat

#23
yungbasel
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AlmartAn [#2]

No, next question

looool xD.

mean, but funny

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SnowySquid
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Dont care + zekken is the prophet child

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