which tournament winner has the smallest asterisk next to their title, i.e. which one was the most legit
i say EG this year probably
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least fraudulent major win so far?
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pugz [#8]legit tournaments
champions 2023
champions 2022
copenhagen 2022
berlin 2021fraudulent list
tokyo 2023
brazil 2023
iceland 2022
iceland 2021
champions 2021
red bull homeground #1 legit tournament
AstroGalaxy [#2]Sen
only played 3 different teams and that tourney had yet to nerf jett which tenz was one trick on
Why are people so fucking delusional to say that any masters or champs winners are fraudulent, the only tournament that even has a possibility of an asterisk next to it’s name would be lock in sao paulo bc of single elimination and everyone having revamped rosters, but even then we can’t deny that fnatic we’re expected to win that event. Just grow up
schlong [#11]only played 3 different teams and that tourney had yet to nerf jett which tenz was one trick on
not true!!! sentinels the best!!!! stop clowning on tenz!!!!
4rrowlol [#12]Why are people so fucking delusional to say that any masters or champs winners are fraudulent, the only tournament that even has a possibility of an asterisk next to it’s name would be lock in sao paulo bc of single elimination and everyone having revamped rosters, but even then we can’t deny that fnatic we’re expected to win that event. Just grow up
…so ur saying that masters this year was perfectly fine even though a top 3 player in the world couldn’t make it
loudsimp [#6]what can you say against fpx in copenhagen? Ig eg avoided fnc and they played double map ban vs prx who have very bad bo5 map pool
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PRX got double ban
schlong [#15]…so ur saying that masters this year was perfectly fine even though a top 3 player in the world couldn’t make it
First off something is not a top 3 player in the world yet, top 10 maybe but not top 3
Secondly just because one player couldn’t make it doesn’t mean that the whole tournament is fraudulent. When a player gets injured in a real sport and can’t play, the fans don’t call the tournament fraudulent, instead they acknowledge that it’s unfortunate and hope the next tournament the team will go even further
4rrowlol [#12]Why are people so fucking delusional to say that any masters or champs winners are fraudulent, the only tournament that even has a possibility of an asterisk next to it’s name would be lock in sao paulo bc of single elimination and everyone having revamped rosters, but even then we can’t deny that fnatic we’re expected to win that event. Just grow up
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acend champs vk camera incidient.
optic iceland fpx couldnt come.
masters the pacific mvp was missing.
list could go on
schlong [#11]only played 3 different teams and that tourney had yet to nerf jett which tenz was one trick on
fucking idiot
Tenz won that Tournament with 3 different agent jett/raze reyna
and unlike Eg or optic Sen won while playing against emea best team at that time
Eg=lucky that loud kicked fnatic into lower bracket and later eliminated them (EG won champ by slaiying asian teams only )
OP=lucky because ukraine war
spicytuna [#19]...
acend champs vk camera incidient.
optic iceland fpx couldnt come.
masters the pacific mvp was missing.
list could go on
As much as I clown riot, they got it right with VK camera, people forget that riot issued an official statement after a team did this in TIER 3 on their official twitter account, effectively setting a precedent for future cases, Vk were lucky they didn’t get disqualified
Loud and Optic would have wiped the floor with fpx and fnc in Iceland 22 because of how far ahead of the meta they were, fpx won Copenhagen only because they were able to adapt finally
Again just because a few players are missing who should have been there doesn’t mean that the whole tournament is fraudulent, just means they have to try again next time
RGS_OnToP [#20]fucking idiot
Tenz won that Tournament with 3 different agent jett/raze reyna
and unlike Eg or optic Sen won while playing against emea best team at that time
Eg=lucky that loud kicked fnatic into lower bracket and later eliminated them (EG won champ by slaiying asian teams only )
OP=lucky because ukraine war
oh u right about tenz my bad
schlong [#15]…so ur saying that masters this year was perfectly fine even though a top 3 player in the world couldn’t make it
Something a top 3 player itw???
schlong [#15]…so ur saying that masters this year was perfectly fine even though a top 3 player in the world couldn’t make it
Something ain’t top 3, even if he was there fnc would have still won finals 3-0, only thing that would have changed is nrg get destroyed in lower bracket + PRX maybe get into gf
schlong [#22]oh u right about tenz my bad
he didnt have to go so rough on you
im sure he didnt mean to hurt you
wykes [#27]probably something like this, my opinion tho, you can swap the order if you have a different one.
- LOUD Champs 2022
- FPX Copenhagen 2022
- EG Champions 2023
Gmb berlin>>
- LOUD Champs 2022 (very convincing)
- FPX Masters Copenhagen 2022 (very convincing)
- Gambit Masters Berlin 2021 (very convincing)
idk about the rest
even tho OpTic was good, they won when we didn't have FPX, remember? they might've beat LOUD on their first international appearance, but OpTic didn't play that well against EMEA (FPX was EMEA's seed 1)
EG won when LOUD kicked Fnatic out of the tournament. LOUD being Fnatic's kryptonite is common knowledge. it's a matchup thing.
a non sleepy/exhausted LOUD would've defeated EG also
kfox [#25]What was wrong with Tokyo?
DRX, NAVI, LOUD all in bad form and burned out mentally
PRX without something
Liquid on playoffs directly
GreyDaze [#31]Gmb berlin>>
I didn't watch much in 2021, so i can't put them on my list, but i have no doubts that it could probably enter my top 3.
So for me it still sticks out as LOUD, FPX and EG.
GreyDaze [#31]Gmb berlin>>
it was a legit tournament indeed. but it was first year of competitive valorant (SEN won the first, cmon...), so it has less value. and since Champs > Masters, i wouldn't put it above LOUD's 2022 Champs
kfox [#25]What was wrong with Tokyo?
Only thing I can think of is it was single elimination. But no one was beating FNC anyways as they never would have went to lowers. Maybe loud would have won the rematch in the final but with two map bans I don't see that FNC losing.
Shidoh [#32]
- LOUD Champs 2022 (very convincing)
- FPX Masters Copenhagen 2022 (very convincing)
- Gambit Masters Berlin 2021 (very convincing)
idk about the rest
even tho OpTic was good, they won when we didn't have FPX, remember? they might've beat LOUD on their first international appearance, but OpTic didn't play that well against EMEA (FPX was EMEA's seed 1)EG won when LOUD kicked Fnatic out of the tournament. LOUD being Fnatic's kryptonite is common knowledge. it's a matchup thing.
a non sleepy/exhausted LOUD would've defeated EG also
Bruh the last line lmao
loudsimp [#6]what can you say against fpx in copenhagen? Ig eg avoided fnc and they played double map ban vs prx who have very bad bo5 map pool
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Shidoh [#32]
- LOUD Champs 2022 (very convincing)
- FPX Masters Copenhagen 2022 (very convincing)
- Gambit Masters Berlin 2021 (very convincing)
idk about the rest
even tho OpTic was good, they won when we didn't have FPX, remember? they might've beat LOUD on their first international appearance, but OpTic didn't play that well against EMEA (FPX was EMEA's seed 1)EG won when LOUD kicked Fnatic out of the tournament. LOUD being Fnatic's kryptonite is common knowledge. it's a matchup thing.
a non sleepy/exhausted LOUD would've defeated EG also
sleepy Loud 😴😴😴
pugz [#33]DRX, NAVI, LOUD all in bad form and burned out mentally
PRX without something
Liquid on playoffs directly
teams in bad form does not mean its a bad tournament. that's normal stuff that happens in sports
sussybaka [#45]Outsiders winning Rio Major was still the most fraudulent major win than any of these replies mentioned.
me when i had no idea xdd
turkey [#17]?
PRX got double ban
PRX map pool is above average on every map(except haven) and if they are played two times in same tournament they lose due to familiarity LOUD vs EG was Champions decider
schlong [#15]…so ur saying that masters this year was perfectly fine even though a top 3 player in the world couldn’t make it
top3 duelist can make sense but not player
4rrowlol [#21]As much as I clown riot, they got it right with VK camera, people forget that riot issued an official statement after a team did this in TIER 3 on their official twitter account, effectively setting a precedent for future cases, Vk were lucky they didn’t get disqualified
Loud and Optic would have wiped the floor with fpx and fnc in Iceland 22 because of how far ahead of the meta they were, fpx won Copenhagen only because they were able to adapt finally
Again just because a few players are missing who should have been there doesn’t mean that the whole tournament is fraudulent, just means they have to try again next time
fpx were the favourites or you could argue second favourites for iceland 22 if they could attend.
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