Idk if I'm crazy but I don't see what's wrong with trash talk. All I expect is to back it, up and if you don't back it up don't go crying on a podcast 3 months from the trash talk talking about death threats and mental health when you yourself are the cause of those said issues.
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Xerulo [#3]It's ok to talk trash but now he's kinda pushing it, it wouldn't kill him to say something nice after the match. His latest tweet is kinda annoying. Rest was fine
He is just joking around bro, don't take it seriously
Chad_Amell [#4]He is just joking around bro, don't take it seriously
No one taking seriously. But u gotta have some boundaries, you can't trash talk everything
Xerulo [#3]It's ok to talk trash but now he's kinda pushing it, it wouldn't kill him to say something nice after the match. His latest tweet is kinda annoying. Rest was fine
Personally don't see anything wrong with it. As long as he doesn't go on to complain about death threats and mental health when he's baiting interactions.
Finlad [#8]Personally don't see anything wrong with it. As long as he doesn't go on to complain about death threats and mental health when he's baiting interactions.
yeah but fk the fans that take it serious like that . its just a video game.
Typer [#6]No one taking seriously. But u gotta have some boundaries, you can't trash talk everything
this
Chad_Amell [#4]He is just joking around bro, don't take it seriously
After the games over I don't think it's necessary. Well maybe I'm the only one who finds d1 and boostio annoying for this.
Ullyr [#9]yeah but fk the fans that take it serious like that . its just a video game.
In an ideal world yes but there will always be weirdos and pros should know that. If you're looking to bait interactions you should know the consequences
Growing up I was always told to hold your head high in victory or defeat. Calling people frauds after a match just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Part of the pregame prayer from my high school team summarizes it pretty well. "If we lose, let us stand by the field, and cheer as the victors go by. And if we win, let it be by the code, with faith and honor held high."
I'm all for talk before or during a game, but being a sore winner is unnecessary and deservedly frowned upon imo.
i will support NA regardless though
CoCloudy [#14]are you referring to anyone? did someone go on a podcast and rant about death threats and mental health?
Not targeting anyone is specific but I'm just annoyed of the people who hunt for interactions by being "villains". I have nothing against it but, I expect them to know what they are getting into for those interactions.
Typer [#6]No one taking seriously. But u gotta have some boundaries, you can't trash talk everything
EXACTLY if you trash talk everything it stops becoming trash talk
Typer [#6]No one taking seriously. But u gotta have some boundaries, you can't trash talk everything
it's just for the public facing entertainment dude
do you think when they're walking down the hallway to the arena he's telling them that they fucking blow
everyone is chill with each other outside of the game
Danny [#15]Growing up I was always told to hold your head high in victory or defeat. Calling people frauds after a match just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Part of the pregame prayer from my high school team summarizes it pretty well. "If we lose, let us stand by the field, and cheer as the victors go by. And if we win, let it be by the code, with faith and honor held high."
I'm all for talk before or during a game, but being a sore winner is unnecessary and deservedly frowned upon imo.
i will support NA regardless though
Agreed. However, I do think that for the scene to stay alive we need narratives. Narratives bring eyes to the esport, in an ideal world everyone would watch sports just for the amazing plays but, it isnt an ideal world and most people don't care about the sport they only care about narratives. For example I can bet you half of nba fans dont even watch nba games they are just there for the narratives that are made in the sport.
trash talk creates hype. ur fans wanna see u win. ur haters wanna see u lose.
he is playing the villain arc and what do u guys expect?
u guys really expect him to go tenz mode and be like "GG 2-1 EDG. u guys did well." some shit like that?
he is playing the villain role rn there is no shot he will stop doing it. he might tone it up a little bit in the future but definitely not rn.
love_trial [#18]it's just for the public facing entertainment dude
do you think when they're walking down the hallway to the arena he's telling them that they fucking bloweveryone is chill with each other outside of the game
Ik. But what's the use if you trash talk everything? There will be no point of trashtalking.
imperialhalCEO [#20]trash talk creates hype. ur fans wanna see u win. ur haters wanna see u lose.
he is playing the villain arc and what do u guys expect?
u guys really expect him to go tenz mode and be like "GG 2-1 EDG. u guys did well." some shit like that?
he is playing the villain role rn there is no shot he will stop doing it. he might tone it up a little bit in the future but definitely not rn.
Never said it was bad . All I'm expecting is to back it up.
Finlad [#19]Agreed. However, I do think that for the scene to stay alive we need narratives. Narratives bring eyes to the esport, in an ideal world everyone would watch sports just for the amazing plays but, it isnt an ideal world and most people don't care about the sport they only care about narratives. For example I can bet you half of nba fans dont even watch nba games they are just there for the narratives that are made in the sport.
I think you can start narratives without talking trash after a game
Ullyr [#7]I think its okay , honestly it spice things up. I'm more so worry about demon1 and boostio. I really hope the rabid fanbase don't take it seriously like that.
Man what did they even say. By the reaction you would think they started hurling racial slurs
Danny [#15]Growing up I was always told to hold your head high in victory or defeat. Calling people frauds after a match just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Part of the pregame prayer from my high school team summarizes it pretty well. "If we lose, let us stand by the field, and cheer as the victors go by. And if we win, let it be by the code, with faith and honor held high."
I'm all for talk before or during a game, but being a sore winner is unnecessary and deservedly frowned upon imo.
i will support NA regardless though
so unbelievably corny, fuck outta here with the code of honor shit, being a sore loser is very normal
jawn [#25]so unbelievably corny, fuck outta here with the code of honor shit, being a sore loser is very normal
Having principles isn’t corny lil bro
Also EG aren’t sore losers, they’re sore winners.
Danny [#15]Growing up I was always told to hold your head high in victory or defeat. Calling people frauds after a match just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Part of the pregame prayer from my high school team summarizes it pretty well. "If we lose, let us stand by the field, and cheer as the victors go by. And if we win, let it be by the code, with faith and honor held high."
I'm all for talk before or during a game, but being a sore winner is unnecessary and deservedly frowned upon imo.
i will support NA regardless though
What's concerning here is that your high school mixes sports with prayers... very concerning
Also, you're missing the fact that narratives are just that... narratives. EG and EDG players get along pretty well, they had dinner yesterday. You sound very confused (gullible?) and probably the target audience for all the funny shit talking
Danny [#26]Having principles isn’t corny lil bro
Also EG aren’t sore losers, they’re sore winners.
leave your principles out of the game, if that's what you're trying to preserve when you're competing then you're no competitor at all
jkjkjk [#27]What's concerning here is that your high school mixes sports with prayers... very concerning
Also, you're missing the fact that narratives are just that... narratives. EG and EDG players get along pretty well, they had dinner yesterday. You sound very confused (gullible?) and probably the target audience for all the funny shit talking
Prayers were a student led tradition passed down for years. I’m not religious. It was more of a chant to get us gassed up
In fact it would’ve been a fireable offense for a teacher to lead a prayer
Also I’m not saying that EG and EDG hate each other. I’m saying that publicly calling EDG frauds after a victory leaves a bad taste in my mouth
jawn [#28]leave your principles out of the game, if that's what you're trying to preserve when you're competing then you're no competitor at all
This doesn’t have to do with competing itself, it has to do with how you behave after a competition
Whether or not you talk trash after a game has absolutely nothing to do with results
You’re actually an imbecile if you think that being a gracious winner makes you “no competitor at all”
Danny [#29]Prayers were a student led tradition passed down for years. I’m not religious. It was more of a chant to get us gassed up
In fact it would’ve been a fireable offense for a teacher to lead a prayer
Also I’m not saying that EG and EDG hate each other. I’m saying that publicly calling EDG frauds after a victory leaves a bad taste in my mouth
It's just a reply to the narrative that EDG created in the pre-match hype video (where they called Demon1 fraud and failed). You're reading too much into it, it's just banter between the players.
Not sure what sport you're playing, but in football/soccer this is something that we learned to deal with from a very young age, playing both school and club level. Work on your mental game more
Danny [#30]This doesn’t have to do with competing itself, it has to do with how you behave after a competition
Whether or not you talk trash after a game has absolutely nothing to do with results
You’re actually an imbecile if you think that being a gracious winner makes you “no competitor at all”
you're no competitor because you cannot relate to that feeling, if you're seeing a peer talking shit after a match and you think "oh that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, he should not do that", that's just pure insecurity, otherwise you wouldn't care
Finlad [#22]Never said it was bad . All I'm expecting is to back it up.
then stop crying like a child
pullupthen [#33]snowflake
saying i don't like something doesn't make me a snowflake lmao
people can have opinions.
jawn [#32]you're no competitor because you cannot relate to that feeling, if you're seeing a peer talking shit after a match and you think "oh that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, he should not do that", that's just pure insecurity, otherwise you wouldn't care
what are you even waffling about bro
No shot you've ever competed in anything at a high level
jkjkjk [#31]It's just a reply to the narrative that EDG created in the pre-match hype video (where they called Demon1 fraud and failed). You're reading too much into it, it's just banter between the players.
Not sure what sport you're playing, but in football/soccer this is something that we learned to deal with from a very young age, playing both school and club level. Work on your mental game more
bro fym "work on your mental game more"
me not being a fan of an action doesn't mean that I'm rattled or upset. It's just not the way that I like competitors to carry themselves
and I'm also not playing
you're reading way too far into this.
Typer [#6]No one taking seriously. But u gotta have some boundaries, you can't trash talk everything
And who decides what those boundaries are? It will always be a subjective matter. The main thing is for trash talk not to turn into personal insults, like appearance or personal life, etc.
jawn [#32]you're no competitor because you cannot relate to that feeling, if you're seeing a peer talking shit after a match and you think "oh that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, he should not do that", that's just pure insecurity, otherwise you wouldn't care
I can tell you’re an annoying bitch
Danny [#37]bro fym "work on your mental game more"
me not being a fan of an action doesn't mean that I'm rattled or upset. It's just not the way that I like competitors to carry themselves
and I'm also not playing
you're reading way too far into this.
You're the one that literally said that you have "a bad taste in your mouth" . FYI, that's a mental thing.
You seem like you like going in circles, we can end this convo here.
Cheers
Danny [#36]what are you even waffling about bro
No shot you've ever competed in anything at a high level
i played football semi-pro from 15 to 17, you played on your school team lil bro
Danny [#35]saying i don't like something doesn't make me a snowflake lmao
people can have opinions.
classic american can't stop being offended to everything
jkjkjk [#40]You're the one that literally said that you have "a bad taste in your mouth" . FYI, that's a mental thing.
You seem like you like going in circles, we can end this convo here.
Cheers
You’re telling me I need to “work on my mentals”
Why do I need to work on an opinion. You’re a moron
Also it’s not just about the fraud tweet. It’s also about Boostio’s post match interview where he said Kang Kang was a disappointment and EDG aren’t very good
Also don’t try to end the conversation for me dude. You’re so weird
Edit: post match conference not interview
jawn [#41]i played football semi-pro from 15 to 17, you played on your school team lil bro
“Semi pro” at u18 LMAO
Mommy and daddy paid for you to get into an academy team
pullupthen [#42]classic american can't stop being offended to everything
Not offended just not a fan
Demon1 trash talk is okay but boostio saying NA better than China is just him pushing boundaries after BLG NRG games there are 2 chinese teams and 1 NA team in playoffs and he is talking as if China is minor region his press conference will obviously generate lot of death threats but he still can't accept reality that chinese valorant is atleast comparable to NA he needs PR training honestly
Danny [#43]You’re telling me I need to “work on my mentals”
Why do I need to work on an opinion. You’re a moron
Also it’s not just about the fraud tweet. It’s also about Boostio’s post match interview where he said Kang Kang was a disappointment and EDG aren’t very good
Also don’t try to end the conversation for me dude. You’re so weird
Edit: post match conference not interview
Boostio literally said in the post-match interview that EDG is actually a really good team. Go re-watch it. You're an idiot and a half. l8er
jkjkjk [#48]Boostio literally said in the post-match interview that EDG is actually a really good team. Go re-watch it. You're an idiot and a half. l8er
“They're really good for a Chinese team, but I don't know, they're not very good to be honest. KangKang was a disappointment"”
Rewatch it bud
Danny [#44]“Semi pro” at u18 LMAO
Mommy and daddy paid for you to get into an academy team
when i was really young yeah, that's kinda how it goes
orthoboy [#47]Demon1 trash talk is okay but boostio saying NA better than China is just him pushing boundaries after BLG NRG games there are 2 chinese teams and 1 NA team in playoffs and he is talking as if China is minor region his press conference will obviously generate lot of death threats but he still can't accept reality that chinese valorant is atleast comparable to NA he needs PR training honestly
china is in fact a minor region, the game was released like less then a year ago, so it's expected for them to have a slow start
jawn [#51]when i was really young yeah, that's kinda how it goes
Using your example of pro football players, let’s see if the top level competitors are “slaves to principles” aka good sportsmanship, or if they freely talk shit anf call people frauds
Haaland’s tweets after winning
https://x.com/erlinghaaland/status/1659997882382942213?s=46&t=a5TuRW2ZSj17hTDMEK0e7g
https://x.com/erlinghaaland/status/1667869407429656578?s=46&t=a5TuRW2ZSj17hTDMEK0e7g
Christiano Ronaldo (infamous for ego)
https://x.com/cristiano/status/1690477428852826112?s=46&t=a5TuRW2ZSj17hTDMEK0e7g
Why are they being respectful? With your logic shouldn’t they be calling opponent teams frauds and disappointments?
veyyyyron [#53]china is in fact a minor region, the game was released like less then a year ago, so it's expected for them to have a slow start
Lol having 2 teams in top 8 and and getting a partnership league just for a country shows how major of region is china he needs PR training literally otherwise hate train does not stop and it fuel the flames even more and masters Shanghai will not pleasant for EG you need to back where you need to back down
Danny [#54]Using your example of pro football players, let’s see if the top level competitors are “slaves to principles” aka good sportsmanship, or if they freely talk shit anf call people frauds
Haaland’s tweets after winning
https://x.com/erlinghaaland/status/1659997882382942213?s=46&t=a5TuRW2ZSj17hTDMEK0e7g
https://x.com/erlinghaaland/status/1667869407429656578?s=46&t=a5TuRW2ZSj17hTDMEK0e7g
Christiano Ronaldo (infamous for ego)
https://x.com/cristiano/status/1690477428852826112?s=46&t=a5TuRW2ZSj17hTDMEK0e7g
Why are they being respectful? With your logic shouldn’t they be calling opponent teams frauds and disappointments?
using for examples people that likely have a PR team handling their social medias is so funny
Soddalele [#57]like i said in a previous post, trash talk is fine, i just think EG did it in poor taste starting with the presumed weakest region.
dont they trash talk every region?
jawn [#56]using for examples people that likely have a PR team handling their social medias is so funny
are you going to act like EG doesn't have a PR team?
also you're being intentionally dense. Anyone who's watched football knows that the pros are respectful. Ronaldo and Messi don't run around calling each other frauds. All the namecalling is left up to the fans
UnEstoppable [#24]Man what did they even say. By the reaction you would think they started hurling racial slurs
I mean its not what they said yet. I'm fairly sure this will reach weibo at some point lol.
orthoboy [#55]Lol having 2 teams in top 8 and and getting a partnership league just for a country shows how major of region is china he needs PR training literally otherwise hate train does not stop and it fuel the flames even more and masters Shanghai will not pleasant for EG you need to back where you need to back down
and they were both sent to lowers, they are all NPCs in these tournaments. Give them some time and i'm sure they can do better, but RIGHT NOW it's a minor region
Danny [#59]are you going to act like EG doesn't have a PR team?
also you're being intentionally dense. Anyone who's watched football knows that the pros are respectful. Ronaldo and Messi don't run around calling each other frauds. All the namecalling is left up to the fans
dawg, all EG players personally use their accounts, also football culture doesn't revolve around social media, you'll never catch them throwing shade publicly
jawn [#62]dawg, all EG players personally use their accounts, also football culture doesn't revolve around social media, you'll never catch them throwing shade publicly
but isn't throwing shade publicly part of competitive spirit?????? I thought you said that not talking shit publicly makes you no competitor at all??????
why are you backtracking now?
ENDURANCE [#58]dont they trash talk every region?
no im pretty sure this is something they started at champions or going up to champions, if they started with the big dogs it just looks better if you deliver, but starting with the weakest link, it just looks alot worse
Danny [#50]“They're really good for a Chinese team, but I don't know, they're not very good to be honest. KangKang was a disappointment"”
Rewatch it bud
https://youtu.be/kDIGsqa0cpw?list=PLMJ9cfx_WDdybdHDw28uCEFnxQvprJ59W&t=3062
You're an idiot bud, stop replying to me before you grow a brain
Danny [#63]but isn't throwing shade publicly part of competitive spirit?????? I thought you said that not talking shit publicly makes you no competitor at all??????
why are you backtracking now?
this is your first language and your reading comprehension is dogshit,
never said that, just called you a non-competitor because you get upset watching competitors do their thing from the outside, you can't relate nor understand
also talking trash or not is up to personal preference and i never claimed otherwise
jawn [#67]this is your first language and your reading comprehension is dogshit,
never said that, just called you a non-competitor because you get upset watching competitors do their thing from the outside, you can't relate nor understand
also talking trash or not is up to personal preference and i never claimed otherwise
Your reading comprhension is worse.
I’m not upset at all.
Not talking trash after winning is my personal preference, and I personally dislike when pro players do that.
That is 100% all that I said. Idk why you’re going after me like I’m saying to crucify anything that I don’t enjoy
Danny [#50]“They're really good for a Chinese team, but I don't know, they're not very good to be honest. KangKang was a disappointment"”
Rewatch it bud
you just make that shit up in your head? half those words didnt come out of his mouth..
Rewatch it bud
orthoboy [#55]Lol having 2 teams in top 8 and and getting a partnership league just for a country shows how major of region is china he needs PR training literally otherwise hate train does not stop and it fuel the flames even more and masters Shanghai will not pleasant for EG you need to back where you need to back down
they still consider a minor region. I think they have talent but atm their level of play is not close to what is consider top. It was a major upset for BLG to win nrg 4 0. That honestly just confuses me because like you see DRX can easily handle BLG plays.
ENDURANCE [#69]you just make that shit up in your head? half those words didnt come out of his mouth..
Rewatch it bud
https://twitter.com/VALO2ASIA/status/1692341975671071186?s=20
jkjkjk [#66]https://youtu.be/kDIGsqa0cpw?list=PLMJ9cfx_WDdybdHDw28uCEFnxQvprJ59W&t=3062
You're an idiot bud, stop replying to me before you grow a brain
https://twitter.com/VALO2ASIA/status/1692341975671071186?s=20
veyyyyron [#61]and they were both sent to lowers, they are all NPCs in these tournaments. Give them some time and i'm sure they can do better, but RIGHT NOW it's a minor region
I am pretty sure the number of teams in top 8 and above defines how good of region you are and this champion China>>NA so boostio is being sore loser talking such shit about China
Danny [#68]Your reading comprhension is worse.
I’m not upset at all.
Not talking trash after winning is my personal preference, and I personally dislike when pro players do that.
That is 100% all that I said. Idk why you’re going after me like I’m saying to crucify anything that I don’t enjoy
i mostly don't trash talk either, why I'm replying is because i genuinely dislike the honor bullshit because it's reductive and snobby, just say fuck that guy for talking trash and get it over with no need for the self-important "i have principles" talk
Danny [#72]https://twitter.com/VALO2ASIA/status/1692341975671071186?s=20
That's called a post-match conference, not post-match interview, seems like English is difficult for you as well.
All pre-match/post-match conferences had similar shit talking/narrative stories to them. Not surprised one bit, that's the point of having them, that's why Riot created them.
Again, grow a brain, please
jkjkjk [#75]That's called a post-match conference, not post-match interview, seems like English is difficult for you as well.
All pre-match/post-match conferences had similar shit talking/narrative stories to them. Not surprised one bit, that's the point of having them, that's why Riot created them.
Again, grow a brain, please
Nice backtrack bud
Get a grip
pullupthen [#42]classic american can't stop being offended to everything
i think youre the one being offended here little buddy
Danny [#76]Nice backtrack bud
Get a grip
At this point I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you're that stupid.... but w/e
imperialhalCEO [#20]trash talk creates hype. ur fans wanna see u win. ur haters wanna see u lose.
he is playing the villain arc and what do u guys expect?
u guys really expect him to go tenz mode and be like "GG 2-1 EDG. u guys did well." some shit like that?
he is playing the villain role rn there is no shot he will stop doing it. he might tone it up a little bit in the future but definitely not rn.
the thing is they are forcing to be the villain, no creativity/entertainment just straight up trashtalking other team
in my opinion thats just annoying and cringe
orthoboy [#73]I am pretty sure the number of teams in top 8 and above defines how good of region you are and this champion China>>NA so boostio is being sore loser talking such shit about China
that doesnt tell everything. Champions 2021, there were 2 apac teams in playoffs and only 1 na in playoffs, yet the following tournaments, we saw na place higher than apac. You cant call a region better simply based on a single tournament
Ullyr [#70]they still consider a minor region. I think they have talent but atm their level of play is not close to what is consider top. It was a major upset for BLG to win nrg 4 0. That honestly just confuses me because like you see DRX can easily handle BLG plays.
13-10 and 13-9 against a top 8 masters top 4 lock in and top 3 previous champions is respectable and in these 6 months time they will be even better the major region and minor region are decided by how many teams top placed from a region not how new/old and region is
jkjkjk [#78]At this point I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you're that stupid.... but w/e
you're also just reaching so fucking far for absolutely everything that I'm saying, and justifying shit that I don't care about
"All pre-match/post-match conferences had similar shit talking/narrative stories to them. Not surprised one bit, that's the point of having them, that's why Riot created them."
I don't care about "muh narrative" or whether or not the org/riot pushes them into it. I simply dislike when competitors talk trash publicly after a match.
edit: first part about interview vs conference was wrong. I legit forgot I said that LMAO. too many simultaneous arguments for me to keep track. either way it's pure waffle that's unrelated to the argument
Xerulo [#3]It's ok to talk trash but now he's kinda pushing it, it wouldn't kill him to say something nice after the match. His latest tweet is kinda annoying. Rest was fine
Dude, the scene needs all kinds of entertainers. Calm down man. Not everyone can or wants to be Boaster, it would be damn boring if it was. Soft mfers are crying so much about trash talk in esports
Danny [#30]This doesn’t have to do with competing itself, it has to do with how you behave after a competition
Whether or not you talk trash after a game has absolutely nothing to do with results
You’re actually an imbecile if you think that being a gracious winner makes you “no competitor at all”
why are you crying so much about a tweet man
it's literally just for fun, EDG don't care about it. And if EDG come back and win against them, it'll make things even more entertaining
the two teams had dinner together. you think he's actually hating EDG players on something? stop taking stuff so seriously, it's just to entertain
yowazzaa [#84]why are you crying so much about a tweet man
it's literally just for fun, EDG don't care about it. And if EDG come back and win against them, it'll make things even more entertaining
the two teams had dinner together. you think he's actually hating EDG players on something? stop taking stuff so seriously, it's just to entertain
i'm not crying I'm giving my opinion on a thread discussing opinions on the matter.
I don't think he's actually hating EDG players, I simply dislike when competitors are sore winners, regardless of reasoning.
I don't hate EG, in fact they're the team I hope win the event. I'm also not personally mad at any of the players
it just makes me cringe and slightly disappointed to see those types of tweets and conferences/interviews
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