Jollz needs to stop smurfing

JollzTV a popular streamer is doing a challenge where he is going for knife to gold. It's really annoying for a few reasons, it ruins the experience of his teammates who might be losing because of this braindead challenge. And he's also smurfing in iron, while being a radiant. Either way he's ruining the game for someone. You can argue he's using a knife so it should be fair right? Wrong, most players don't listen to audio ques in lower elo so he can just omen tp behind and kill all 4, and when the enemy does listen to audio he's ruining the game for the 4 teammates he has. I don't see why riot allows this kind of content and even invites jollz to events, and riot content testing.

Also to get these iron accounts he needs to either grief games or buy the account both of which is against riots TOS

Aint

dayyaan1 [#2]

Aint

readin

if someone is losing to a player that is knife only that is their fault

D1 hater

kaibe8 [#3]

readin

allat

kaibe8 [#3]

readin

alldat

kaibe8 [#3]

readin

allat

yeah smurf challenge are just cringe man, like you ruin a lot of ppl ranked experiences with it

fr bro, plus his stupid “controller to radiant” challenges that literally just are smurfing cuz you can’t say playing a specific role is a fucking “disadvantage”

shrubonfire [#4]

if someone is losing to a player that is knife only that is their fault

Iron players don't get to play the game a lot and they have some smurf ruining the experience for them so they can't enjoy the game, and learn how to play the game.

IAmCheese1 [#10]

fr bro, plus his stupid “controller to radiant” challenges that literally just are smurfing cuz you can’t say playing a specific role is a fucking “disadvantage”

I agree it's so dumb

I think these types of challenge vids are ok but only if done properly
These content creators should be trying from the bat and not trying to get iron
Example: jollz tryhards for his rank games and places silver so his knife only skill is equal to silver players skill and it's fair

i prefer the content creator smurfs to the ones that boost their dogshit girlfriends from pisslow elo

randomperson [#13]

I think these types of challenge vids are ok but only if done properly
These content creators should be trying from the bat and not trying to get iron
Example: jollz tryhards for his rank games and places silver so his knife only skill is equal to silver players skill and it's fair

He bought his acc, his acc is iron

shrubonfire [#4]

if someone is losing to a player that is knife only that is their fault

Retarded take, some people just want to try new games for fun or they dont have a lot of time to play cause of work n stuff, no reason for a radiant streamer who's o ly content is smurfing to ruin their games

JJfriends [#15]

He bought his acc, his acc is iron

Why don't they just buy unranked accounts?

mrGoudas [#16]

Retarded take, some people just want to try new games for fun or they dont have a lot of time to play cause of work n stuff, no reason for a radiant streamer who's o ly content is smurfing to ruin their games

Yeah, in iron a radiant knifing is way better than an iron player.

randomperson [#17]

Why don't they just buy unranked accounts?

Still against tos + if they buy a unranked and do placements they won't get iron and it won't be appealing to the 3 people that enjoy his content.

BayArea [#14]

i prefer the content creator smurfs to the ones that boost their dogshit girlfriends from pisslow elo

I'd just wish everyone would stop smurfing in general Jesus Christ.

JJfriends [#20]

I'd just wish everyone would stop smurfing in general Jesus Christ.

agreed

just make rank 2fa

did it for premier dk why it would matter it would make it so people have one or two smurfs at max unless they weird

literally half the pros smurf too who cars

blazennn [#22]

just make rank 2fa

did it for premier dk why it would matter it would make it so people have one or two smurfs at max unless they weird

That wouldn't work, that would just raise the prices of accounts to smurf on. And tons AND TONS of accounts are stolen from others so they most likely will have a verified number on it.

I can’t stand jollz tbh just because his content is so catered towards egirls

He’s like pillow talking into his mic using mousecam with 10 rings and black nail paint

It’s like dude i respect going for the ladies but settle down a bit man. Feel gross watching it

Danny [#25]

I can’t stand jollz tbh just because his content is so catered towards egirls

He’s like pillow talking into his mic using mousecam with 10 rings and black nail paint

It’s like dude i respect going for the ladies but settle down a bit man. Feel gross watching it

ong, ik he's hot 🥵🥵🥵🥵 but like chill

JJfriends [#26]

ong, ik he's hot 🥵🥵🥵🥵 but like chill

Every time i get one of his tiktoks on my fyp it feels like I’m watching a thirst trap

Yall can just watch Keeoh instead,he actually does placements and then goes from unranked to immortal,his content is pretty fun too,nice watch

That's the only way he can hit clips and not bottom frag every match.

Woohoojin made a video on this, if people still support smurfing I recommend watching it

TheBigBoiPenguin [#30]

Woohoojin made a video on this, if people still support smurfing I recommend watching it

Woohoojin goat content creator

He charges $175 for one hour of coaching

mrGoudas [#31]

Woohoojin goat content creator

jesus won't get you out of silver lil bro 🗿

uwukitten [#33]

jesus won't get you out of silver lil bro 🗿

Jesus wont make nrg win a tournament either :skull:

melon_fan [#32]

He charges $175 for one hour of coaching

Now ur in radiant ?

true hate that guy, bro is annoying af

Qwerttyy [#36]

true hate that guy, bro is annoying af

real 😭

I think unranked to immortal/radiant/whatever is fine if the content creator is the one who levels/places the account and doesn't purposely hard throw their leveling/placement games to get a lower rank. If they do whatever challenge they're doing throughout all their leveling/placement games, they'll likely get placed in a somewhat decent spot.

Like if someone is just doing educational controller only, then they'll probably get placed pretty high, but still in a spot where there's a lot of climbing to do. If someone wants to do a shorty only series, goes shorty only for their leveling/placement games, and gets placed in low gold or so because that's where their performance throughout their unrated/placement games has set them at, then sure, go ahead. At least at that point you're getting placed at the rank the game thinks you should be at based on your performance with that challenge.

Faaaax smurfing is so lame no one should ever Smurf ^_^

tttangent [#38]

I think unranked to immortal/radiant/whatever is fine if the content creator is the one who levels/places the account and doesn't purposely hard throw their leveling/placement games to get a lower rank. If they do whatever challenge they're doing throughout all their leveling/placement games, they'll likely get placed in a somewhat decent spot.

Like if someone is just doing educational controller only, then they'll probably get placed pretty high, but still in a spot where there's a lot of climbing to do. If someone wants to do a shorty only series, goes shorty only for their leveling/placement games, and gets placed in low gold or so because that's where their performance throughout their unrated/placement games has set them at, then sure, go ahead. At least at that point you're getting placed at the rank the game thinks you should be at based on your performance with that challenge.

thats still morally wrong, you're still ruining games and its NOT EDUCATIONAL. you can learn so much more with normal coaching (woohoojin) and you wont learn anything the content creator is out aiming golds.

TheBigBoiPenguin [#40]

thats still morally wrong, you're still ruining games and its NOT EDUCATIONAL. you can learn so much more with normal coaching (woohoojin) and you wont learn anything the content creator is out aiming golds.

if you're playing educational controller only and you're the one placing the account, you'll be put in the rank that riot thinks corresponds with your skill based on your performance, which should be pretty high no?

tttangent [#41]

if you're playing educational controller only and you're the one placing the account, you'll be put in the rank that riot thinks corresponds with your skill based on your performance, which should be pretty high no?

the max you can get placed is asc 1, and dont kid yourself its not educational

Hard to discourage smurfing when a large chunk of the community glorifies it. At what point do you say “maybe I should just play another game” instead of doing some stupid made up fake challenge for the upteenth time… idk. I love valorant but I don’t understand people who do stuff like this. Like what if I’m trying in my game and don’t wanna play with someone shottys only?

acels2 [#23]

literally half the pros smurf too who cars

not really. guys like curry and mrlowlander just play their placement games normally and then start from whatever rank they begin with. This is completely fine. On the other hand guys like jollz and yay purposely throw their games to get terrible ranks and bully lower rank players for content. Two different scenarios.

Ailed [#39]

Faaaax smurfing is so lame no one should ever Smurf ^_^

wholeheartedly agree with this statement

_Esdeath_ [#44]

not really. guys like curry and mrlowlander just play their placement games normally and then start from whatever rank they begin with. This is completely fine. On the other hand guys like jollz and yay purposely throw their games to get terrible ranks and bully lower rank players for content. Two different scenarios.

meh. still counts as smurfing no? just less scummy smurfing

Can’t blame him tbh when a lot of braindead fans love watching these type of contents. Like seriously who even enjoys watching these lol

TheBigBoiPenguin [#42]

the max you can get placed is asc 1, and dont kid yourself its not educational

asc1 with extremely high MMR, are radiants smurfing at the start of every episode because they got placed asc1?

_Esdeath_ [#44]

not really. guys like curry and mrlowlander just play their placement games normally and then start from whatever rank they begin with. This is completely fine. On the other hand guys like jollz and yay purposely throw their games to get terrible ranks and bully lower rank players for content. Two different scenarios.

Just less scummy smurfing still not right tho

Typer [#35]

Now ur in radiant ?

It's really shit coaching

tttangent [#41]

if you're playing educational controller only and you're the one placing the account, you'll be put in the rank that riot thinks corresponds with your skill based on your performance, which should be pretty high no?

nah curry drops 30+ every placement game and he gets placed plat

albeit plat with really high mmr -> he double ranked up to diamond

melon_fan [#32]

He charges $175 for one hour of coaching

jollz doesnt even have good coaching lol
someone did a vidya on this i think

Fuck jollz all my homies hate jollz

who cars? that type of content helps grow the valorant scene and if you get knifed in a game, you deserve to lose

brobeans [#54]

who cars? that type of content helps grow the valorant scene and if you get knifed in a game, you deserve to lose

The 9 iron players he ruins the game for

spookmeister [#52]

jollz doesnt even have good coaching lol
someone did a vidya on this i think

“under 20% HS? You gotta work on your aim bro!”

Simp4S0m [#47]

Can’t blame him tbh when a lot of braindead fans love watching these type of contents. Like seriously who even enjoys watching these lol

Answered it yourself big bro

JJfriends [#49]

Just less scummy smurfing still not right tho

I don't really understand how that's wrong wouldn't that be the same thing as a naturally high skilled player coming from another FPS doing their placements?

All my homies hate jollz

mrGoudas [#34]

Jesus wont make nrg win a tournament either :skull:

Kcorp fan

LMFAOOO

Wait... there's people that watch these challenges? 💀💀

And I agree that smurfing is bad, but if you are TRULY playing just for fun, go play unrated... who tf is iron and plays ranked for fun

spookmeister [#52]

jollz doesnt even have good coaching lol
someone did a vidya on this i think

Gigachad woohoojin I believe or some small channel

BayArea [#14]

i prefer the content creator smurfs to the ones that boost their dogshit girlfriends from pisslow elo

Derke is it you?

IAmCheese1 [#10]

fr bro, plus his stupid “controller to radiant” challenges that literally just are smurfing cuz you can’t say playing a specific role is a fucking “disadvantage”

That isn’t smurfing. Curry is outright creating a new account and trying his best to win every game played on that new account. He is only “smurfing” in his very first 2-3 games where he is placed with gold/plats. Smurfing with irons like what Jollz is doing is a whole nother level of unfair, but Curry is playing the game fairly.

Smurfing is a little bad but i think people overhype how much of an issue it is tbh

Like for example it is never the reason people fail to rank up, even though tons of people claim it. The truth is your just as likely to have a Smurf on your team as you are to not. The only aspect that decides your rank is how well you play,

Content creators stomping noobs for content is obviously annoying and kills a lot of people’s fun, but i don’t personally see an issue with smurfing in order to play the game with a newer friend

If you smurf soloq to boost your ego though you’re ultra cringe

Danny [#25]

I can’t stand jollz tbh just because his content is so catered towards egirls

He’s like pillow talking into his mic using mousecam with 10 rings and black nail paint

It’s like dude i respect going for the ladies but settle down a bit man. Feel gross watching it

All the egirls simp for him, his marketing strategy is working

JJfriends [#19]

Still against tos + if they buy a unranked and do placements they won't get iron and it won't be appealing to the 3 people that enjoy his content.

You can make an account and have someone place iron you know..
Also blud said 3 people 💀 how many do you stream to everyday lil bro

acels2 [#46]

meh. still counts as smurfing no? just less scummy smurfing

I mean if he wants to start a new account he surely can?
Not his fault if he's placed in diamond

never heard him am I supposed to care

tttangent [#38]

I think unranked to immortal/radiant/whatever is fine if the content creator is the one who levels/places the account and doesn't purposely hard throw their leveling/placement games to get a lower rank. If they do whatever challenge they're doing throughout all their leveling/placement games, they'll likely get placed in a somewhat decent spot.

Like if someone is just doing educational controller only, then they'll probably get placed pretty high, but still in a spot where there's a lot of climbing to do. If someone wants to do a shorty only series, goes shorty only for their leveling/placement games, and gets placed in low gold or so because that's where their performance throughout their unrated/placement games has set them at, then sure, go ahead. At least at that point you're getting placed at the rank the game thinks you should be at based on your performance with that challenge.

problem is that 90% of valorant content creators don't know what the fuck they're talking about, you have mfs who peak immortal who have no actual idea about how to tactically play the game and farm clips using rat setups and killing ppl 3 ranks below them and giving shit advice like "aim higher", or "teaching" ppl how to play agents by teaching them specific setups instead of fundamental principles of the agents

did this thread pop up bc of this lol

https://twitter.com/jollztv/status/1675981240858718208?s=46&t=ye-gy75tUSKJJoHBMWyM7g

brobeans [#71]

did this thread pop up bc of this lol

https://twitter.com/jollztv/status/1675981240858718208?s=46&t=ye-gy75tUSKJJoHBMWyM7g

nah i just don't support jollz content

sentinelmain377 [#60]

Kcorp fan

LMFAOOO

Come back to this after champs

1phnxe [#64]

That isn’t smurfing. Curry is outright creating a new account and trying his best to win every game played on that new account. He is only “smurfing” in his very first 2-3 games where he is placed with gold/plats. Smurfing with irons like what Jollz is doing is a whole nother level of unfair, but Curry is playing the game fairly.

Common Curry WWW

JJfriends [#15]

He bought his acc, his acc is iron

if he bought it then he should be banned according to the ToS, no?

JJfriends [#72]

nah i just don't support jollz content

fair hes cringe asf

jollz hit radiant in episode 3 and has been stuck in low immo ever since 🤣 wouldnt even call him radiant lmao

Marhuee [#63]

Derke is it you?

i remember when i made a post about derke boosting his girlfriend everyone hated on me in the thread but in this one everyones against smurfing now 😂🤔 guess it doesnt matter when your a pro

RealDeal [#77]

jollz hit radiant in episode 3 and has been stuck in low immo ever since 🤣 wouldnt even call him radiant lmao

not even immo its like low ascendant

Melrose222 [#75]

if he bought it then he should be banned according to the ToS, no?

Riot not gonna ban a content creator

RealDeal [#78]

i remember when i made a post about derke boosting his girlfriend everyone hated on me in the thread but in this one everyones against smurfing now 😂🤔 guess it doesnt matter when your a pro

its the hypocrise

spicytuna [#8]

allat

shut up dude

YeaUrMum [#67]

You can make an account and have someone place iron you know..
Also blud said 3 people 💀 how many do you stream to everyday lil bro

found 33% viewerbase of jollz 👆🏿

jonny05 [#79]

not even immo its like low ascendant

oh damn lmfao

Keep crying. I hate people who whine about smurfs. Like be grateful they're playing in your shit ass lobby so you can improve faster.

GhostNexus [#85]

Keep crying. I hate people who whine about smurfs. Like be grateful they're playing in your shit ass lobby so you can improve faster.

what a wholesome guy who cares about the state of this game

RealDeal [#78]

i remember when i made a post about derke boosting his girlfriend everyone hated on me in the thread but in this one everyones against smurfing now 😂🤔 guess it doesnt matter when your a pro

I don’t support you ever but I supported you in that thread. Mfs gotta play unrated or swiftplay with their gfs/bfs instead of smurfing

BayArea [#87]

I don’t support you ever but I supported you in that thread. Mfs gotta play unrated or swiftplay with their gfs/bfs instead of smurfing

why dont you support me? 🥺😔

RealDeal [#88]

why dont you support me? 🥺😔

common Tate L

BayArea [#89]

common Tate L

bro trust me im not a tate fan... theres people on this site trying to make it seem like i am dont fall for the propganda 🤫🧡

V0sotros [#70]

problem is that 90% of valorant content creators don't know what the fuck they're talking about, you have mfs who peak immortal who have no actual idea about how to tactically play the game and farm clips using rat setups and killing ppl 3 ranks below them and giving shit advice like "aim higher", or "teaching" ppl how to play agents by teaching them specific setups instead of fundamental principles of the agents

I hate the cypher channels like spawns and “accre the dog” who only play for clips and stuff. I mean clips are fun but if you want to rank up just watch nats or fns or babyj, people who are actually good at the agent. Those two frauds somehow have thousands of yt subs but they are playing the agent so wrong.

Jollz is so cringe in general he’s like 30 trying to cater to egirls by being an eboy with those 70 rings and black nails and talking deep into the mic

1phnxe [#91]

I hate the cypher channels like spawns and “accre the dog” who only play for clips and stuff. I mean clips are fun but if you want to rank up just watch nats or fns or babyj, people who are actually good at the agent. Those two frauds somehow have thousands of yt subs but they are playing the agent so wrong.

every time I see these tiktok agent mains who use gimmicky setups all the time that are only used to bait their teammates instead of actually get helpful value, I get so mad. I understand there is value in setting up as a sentinel for kills rather than info, but that should only be like 2-3 times per half, not the entire game

1phnxe [#64]

That isn’t smurfing. Curry is outright creating a new account and trying his best to win every game played on that new account. He is only “smurfing” in his very first 2-3 games where he is placed with gold/plats. Smurfing with irons like what Jollz is doing is a whole nother level of unfair, but Curry is playing the game fairly.

7 months late, but better late than never, its STILL smurfing. And no, him playing less than 5 games against people lower than Plat/Dia is still bad for the players he plays against. He doesnt get a REAL challenge until he hits high Immo-3/Radiant, because while low Immortal/Ascendant players can partly keep up in terms of mechs, they still get thrown in the bin by Curry because he has a much deeper understanding of the game
(formations, setups, coordination, trading, reads, rotations etc..). He also indirectly encourages people to smurf because its fun from the outside, he had fun, so why dont do smth that might be fun for you aswell?
Currys smurfing project is better than Jollz, no doubt, but being bitten by a snake isnt better than being bitten by a alligator. Bad things cant be made good when comparing them to even worse things, they still remain bad and Curry and Jollz deserve every ounce of criticism they got for the BS they did.
The only somewhat good thing he did was that he explained his util, but he couldve just done a guide for that.