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Why tenz isn't that great

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JJfriends

Feels like tenz's game sense isn't really up to par. His aim is one of the best and he is very mechanically gifted, however his game sense holds him back. For example during the starting era of valorant he was the best becaue meta and strats didn't really matter back then. Another example was in CSGO, daps said that tenz was far behind any young pro that he had ever played with (and we know his aim wasn't his issue).

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What exactly is game sense to you
It sounds like you're waffling

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moshimoshiman24
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bruh everyone already knows hes one of the best players mechanically but overpeaks and overheats lol. who cares tho mans still the face of val even if he sucks sometimes.

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JJfriends
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danii1 [#2]

What exactly is game sense to you
It sounds like you're waffling

the sense that is required when playing a video game

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JJfriends [#4]

the sense that is required when playing a video game

so sight, sound, and touch?

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danii1
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JJfriends [#4]

the sense that is required when playing a video game

I'm sure he'll fix his stuff. He's in a very experienced environment. It's not always bad having a crazy Jett player that does stuff that others don't.

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moshimoshiman24 [#3]

bruh everyone already knows hes one of the best players mechanically but overpeaks and overheats lol. who cares tho mans still the face of val even if he sucks sometimes.

tenz is my glorious king, the humble goat, the GOAT

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JJfriends
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danii1 [#6]

I'm sure he'll fix his stuff. He's in a very experienced environment. It's not always bad having a crazy Jett player that does stuff that others don't.

course he will, he's still young ofc but I think in terms of game sense he is a little bit more lacking than some other players.

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Netero
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He will be smarter under Marved and Zekken! Showed lots of improvement in those areas against Furia 🐸👍

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JJfriends
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Netero [#9]

He will be smarter under Marved and Zekken! Showed lots of improvement in those areas against Furia 🐸👍

my king marved will igl sentinels to victory

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JJfriends [#8]

course he will, he's still young ofc but I think in terms of game sense he is a little bit more lacking than some other players.

I know what you mean. But I don't think he lacks the game sense, it might just be he's really hyped during matches and does stuff he normally wouldn't do. (Streamer mentality hahah)

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if his game sense wasnt good, he wouldnt be in a franchised team, watch him doing watch parties and u will realize that hes actually pretty smart, more than what people give him credit for and also kaplan said in an article interview thingy that along with zekken, tenz helps with the calling too

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moshimoshiman24 [#3]

bruh everyone already knows hes one of the best players mechanically but overpeaks and overheats lol. who cares tho mans still the face of val even if he sucks sometimes.

he overpeeks and overheats mostly when they are down a man or something he constantly has the urge to make hero plays and you cant blame him he used to play in a really unstructured team and that meant they HAD to rely on his hero plays to win a lot of rounds to a point where its a bad habit of his now

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Fire737
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I have never seen B0tz clutch a moment or win a round using tactics or smart thinking
Only thing he knows is to aim and play recklessly

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Pengu12
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🗣️🧇🫵

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bronzil_enjoyer
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how dare you disrespect the goat😡😡😡

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Warlordwibz
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Tenz is prime example of OG SEN, good early on but when others catch up he can't hang.

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Fire737 [#14]

I have never seen B0tz clutch a moment or win a round using tactics or smart thinking
Only thing he knows is to aim and play recklessly

TenZ will own 1T for like the 20th time

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Fire737 [#14]

I have never seen B0tz clutch a moment or win a round using tactics or smart thinking
Only thing he knows is to aim and play recklessly

Exactly what half of the duelists do in pro play

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Pengu12 [#18]

TenZ will own 1T for like the 20th time

Doesn’t change the fact that he is trash and fell off hard
Plus 100t gonna decimate Sen
Sen is a failing disaster team since early 2021 and wishing you strength after they drop players for 20+ times after they get eliminated in lcq 1st match

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Fire737
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danii1 [#19]

Exactly what half of the duelists do in pro play

Some at least try to play smart

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cboomer
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noxx [#12]

if his game sense wasnt good, he wouldnt be in a franchised team, watch him doing watch parties and u will realize that hes actually pretty smart, more than what people give him credit for and also kaplan said in an article interview thingy that along with zekken, tenz helps with the calling too

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

An actual based reply in vlr

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Pogo
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TenZ under a leader like FNS would be something else

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

even his spacing issues are because of him playing in such an unstructured team and poor environment and it has already started to get better with the new team

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Fire737 [#20]

Doesn’t change the fact that he is trash and fell off hard
Plus 100t gonna decimate Sen
Sen is a failing disaster team since early 2021 and wishing you strength after they drop players for 20+ times after they get eliminated in lcq 1st match

Bro u could say the exact same shit for 100t, this team will prolly play worse in lcq then in Americas
SEN >>> Mibr > Kru > 100t

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That depends on your definition of "great". It's like saying you're a great and wonderful person in your own right. Tenz was one of the 1sts to be up there and he inspired a lot of people to play like him. I think that aspect itself makes him great already. That's a legacy itself that he can live for.

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Bonkbonk201
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saying tenz doesn't have good gamesense is crazy, watch any of his vods and you'll see how good his gamesense is..

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danii1
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Fire737 [#21]

Some at least try to play smart

I'm sorry 😔

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

yo wait let him cook

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Fire737 [#14]

I have never seen B0tz clutch a moment or win a round using tactics or smart thinking
Only thing he knows is to aim and play recklessly

If the duelist is the last alive, he isn't making a good job

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1phnxe
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BREAKING NEWS:

Yet another plat player thinks that TenZ’s gamesense is not up to par! What a surprise!

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Asokra
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You could really tell this by how he played chamber in LCQ, game sense is like the most important tool in in lurks and timings but he costed them many times. He did put up incredible numbers but he could've done much more.

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Fire737
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Jano0310 [#31]

If the duelist is the last alive, he isn't making a good job

there is always rounds where duelists are last alive
I am talking about the rounds where tenz is last alive and plays dumb af

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

Okay cboomer!

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

ok cboomer

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

Okay Cboomer

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

Okay Cboomer!

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JJfriends
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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

tenz was on anchor bc daps put him on anchor

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Kuuga
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“If you guys are new to Riot Games okay. They make the initial game have a bunch of characters that all do like, ‘Hey man, here’s some healing.’ Heal. ‘Hey man, here’s a flash.’ Flash. Wow, that’s exciting. And then, at the game’s release, they release new characters. Every new character, the guy goes in the walls. Transforms into a dog. Goes underway on a subway station. Makes a new world. Make a new game. Transfers realms. Quantum mechanics. It’s always like this.”

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JJfriends
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Bonkbonk201 [#28]

saying tenz doesn't have good gamesense is crazy, watch any of his vods and you'll see how good his gamesense is..

every pro has some degree of gamesene I'm jst saying that his isn't as good as other players as highlighted in his csgo career and the start of valorant

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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

Ok cboomer

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Kuuga [#40]

“If you guys are new to Riot Games okay. They make the initial game have a bunch of characters that all do like, ‘Hey man, here’s some healing.’ Heal. ‘Hey man, here’s a flash.’ Flash. Wow, that’s exciting. And then, at the game’s release, they release new characters. Every new character, the guy goes in the walls. Transforms into a dog. Goes underway on a subway station. Makes a new world. Make a new game. Transfers realms. Quantum mechanics. It’s always like this.”

juicer

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bronzil_enjoyer
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he need ratzam fr

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SpecSpec
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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

Ok cboomer

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FirebugsCrusade
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cboomer [#22]

tenz is intelligent lol, people don't know what gamesense means, it's better not to listen to armchair gamers. Tenz was anchoring in CSGO because of his gamesense, he know a lot about the game and where players can be.

the issue with tenz was never gamesense rather spacing and him over peeking and his team being spaced so poorly that the trade wasn't even available and the space was just lost, fnatic are a peak example of overheating compensating by perfect spacing and trades.

ok cboomer

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Achlys
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danii1 [#11]

I know what you mean. But I don't think he lacks the game sense, it might just be he's really hyped during matches and does stuff he normally wouldn't do. (Streamer mentality hahah)

For me tho I think he is over agressive most of the time and that also leads to him dying without anyone trading him

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TheAceGamer30
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Fire737 [#20]

Doesn’t change the fact that he is trash and fell off hard
Plus 100t gonna decimate Sen
Sen is a failing disaster team since early 2021 and wishing you strength after they drop players for 20+ times after they get eliminated in lcq 1st match

Famous last words

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Bald_man
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TheAceGamer30 [#48]

Famous last words

cmon let a man live brother

#50
Meowmeowkitty
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TheAceGamer30 [#48]

Famous last words

Bro ur lifeless

#51
AK3
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Achlys [#47]

For me tho I think he is over agressive most of the time and that also leads to him dying without anyone trading him

will that was back on 2023, these days although he over heats some times, but we can agree there is a lot of improvement from him in term of game sense, when to flank, when to use certain ability,,,etc

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ItsHunter
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JJfriends [#4]

the sense that is required when playing a video game

good job, you just toppled your entire argument with a single sentence response

#53
ItsHunter
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Achlys [#47]

For me tho I think he is over agressive most of the time and that also leads to him dying without anyone trading him

but thats not a game sense problem thats a discipline problem which hes worked on and almost never happens unless a risk needs to be taken in an unwinnable round to potentially bring it back

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TheAceGamer30
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ItsHunter [#52]

good job, you just toppled your entire argument with a single sentence response

Cook

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ItsHunter
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noxx [#13]

he overpeeks and overheats mostly when they are down a man or something he constantly has the urge to make hero plays and you cant blame him he used to play in a really unstructured team and that meant they HAD to rely on his hero plays to win a lot of rounds to a point where its a bad habit of his now

it cant even be called a problem anymore tho cause it only ever does happen when they NEED a crazy play and when they have almost no chance at winning the round unless the opponents throw

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Sh0ma
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TenZ is the most overrated player ever, ScreaM is much better

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RGS_OnToP
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Sh0ma [#56]

TenZ is the most overrated player ever, ScreaM is much better

ScreaM no master trophys and no team lol

#58
femboyenjoyer
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i agree marved> (jk i love my goat tenz)

#59
my-dad-ate-my-toes
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Yeah I never really watched TenZ and got the sense that he was a veteran player, he always looks like he's always playing in brain off, monging out, running it down in ranked mode

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RGS_OnToP [#57]

ScreaM no master trophys and no team lol

And TenZ retired at 23. Whats your point?

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Sh0ma [#60]

And TenZ retired at 23. Whats your point?

scream is 30 with nothing

tenz at least retired with 2 trophies, shit he couldve gotten at least 4-5 more with how stacked this sen team is...

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Sh0ma [#60]

And TenZ retired at 23. Whats your point?

Tenz retired with 2 naster trophys and on his own terms

scrEam is force to retired with no trophys because no one want him ^^

that is the big difference

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Sh0ma
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RGS_OnToP [#62]

Tenz retired with 2 naster trophys and on his own terms

scrEam is force to retired with no trophys because no one want him ^^

that is the big difference

ScreaM's 2021 and 2022 are worth more than TenZ's entire carreer. And also, I see that you arent really following whats happening cuz ScreaM wont retire. So instead of typing bullshit stuff on the internet and being a ScreaM hater, do something else

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Sh0ma [#63]

ScreaM's 2021 and 2022 are worth more than TenZ's entire carreer. And also, I see that you arent really following whats happening cuz ScreaM wont retire. So instead of typing bullshit stuff on the internet and being a ScreaM hater, do something else

bro made a bullshit reply and upvoted it to make it look like people agree with him 🤣

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Sh0ma [#63]

ScreaM's 2021 and 2022 are worth more than TenZ's entire carreer. And also, I see that you arent really following whats happening cuz ScreaM wont retire. So instead of typing bullshit stuff on the internet and being a ScreaM hater, do something else

Okay 👍
https://www.vlr.gg/417099/team-sacake-vs-s2g-esports-red-bull-home-ground-5-lr1

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RGS_OnToP
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Sh0ma [#63]

ScreaM's 2021 and 2022 are worth more than TenZ's entire carreer. And also, I see that you arent really following whats happening cuz ScreaM wont retire. So instead of typing bullshit stuff on the internet and being a ScreaM hater, do something else

dude won nothing and is force to retired with no trophys because no one want him ^^

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