after playoffs a lot of people are shitting on fnatic and drx. to be fair, fnatic and drx were both playing terribly during the grand finals.
would it be an overreaction to say that both teams are getting worse, or do yall think they'll still perform just as good as they used to during Tokyo?

I trust that they will clean up the lose ends before Masters begins

it's not an overreaction for drx at the very least
they just haven't been the same since lock//in

DRX is hard to say if they are bad or PRX good
but saying fnatic is bad is retarded, it has no effect on their placements, it wasn't even a seeding match. fnatic always looked bad in random tourneys because they try new stuff, but when the matches matter they always show up

Faraday [#4]

DRX is hard to say if they are bad or PRX good
but saying fnatic is bad is retarded, it has no effect on their placements, it wasn't even a seeding match. fnatic always looked bad in random tourneys because they try new stuff, but when the matches matter they always show up

it was a seeding match
the match actually mattered

Riot has done this for all international LANS with this format:

Americas#1 and EMEA#1 are the #1 seeds of playoffs (meaning they will play the #2 seeds from the groups (ezier match-up))

Pacific#1 and SA#1 (now EMEA#2) are the #2 seeds of playoffs (meaning they will play the #1 seeds from the groups (harder match-up))

theres still like 10 days to go for both teams to fix stuff and we have seen how teams can get on track in a week during the league. its a nice wake up call for both teams, altho i heard that it wasn't drx's starting now and they will play foxy in tokyo (idk why they didnt play him in pacific finals then).
we have seen seeding become irrelevant if teams work hard before lans and stay composed on lan so losing in regionals doesn't matter too much (remember 2022 optic lost all regional finals)

Faraday [#4]

DRX is hard to say if they are bad or PRX good
but saying fnatic is bad is retarded, it has no effect on their placements, it wasn't even a seeding match. fnatic always looked bad in random tourneys because they try new stuff, but when the matches matter they always show up

80% DRX getting worse and 20% PRX getting better in my opinion.

Chronicle, the #2 rated player in EMEA up until finals, was -30 or so. That was clearly a once in a blue moon match for him, and Derke was also getting diffed hard by Sayf, which won't consistently happen either. If all of them play like they were on average, i.e. Chronicle #2 EMEA, Derke #1/#2 duelist EMEA, I can see FNC running through a lot of teams

sentinelmain377 [#5]

it was a seeding match
the match actually mattered

Riot has done this for all international LANS with this format:

Americas#1 and EMEA#1 are the #1 seeds of playoffs (meaning they will play the #2 seeds from the groups (ezier match-up))

Pacific#1 and SA#1 (now EMEA#2) are the #2 seeds of playoffs (meaning they will play the #1 seeds from the groups (harder match-up))

getting playoffs is the bonus, with double elim, no one really caring about getting first or second seed in playoffs

Hynix [#3]

it's not an overreaction for drx at the very least
they just haven't been the same since lock//in

They were on 8-0streak in league and trolled secret game,??💀

Faraday [#9]

getting playoffs is the bonus, with double elim, no one really caring about getting first or second seed in playoffs

bro you do know the difference right

say DRX, EG, FUT, ASE is a group

do u wanna play DRX(1st seed of groups) or FUT/EG(w/o demon1)(2nd seed of groups)

fnatic: nothing to play for, both fnc and liquid go to playoffs no matter who wins
drx: playing with roster they had 3 days of prac with
i think both disappointed regardless, but i wouldn't pass judgement

sentinelmain377 [#11]

bro you do know the difference right

say DRX, EG, FUT, ASE is a group

do u wanna play DRX(1st seed of groups) or FUT/EG(w/o demon1)(2nd seed of groups)

I understand, but the point is that for that to matter, all of these have to happen:

• the best team gets 1st seed in group (which if we look at the last tourney with this format, 2022 Copenhagen, 1st and 3rd overall came second in their group

• You lose the match against the 1st seed group team

• and finally that you would've gotten to the finals without losing a single series if you had won 1st seed (because if you lost one you go to lowers and play the exact same amount of matches regardless of if you lose early on or later)

It's effectively a showmatch

this might be my copium only, drx played amazing in first two maps and terrible in last 3 maps bcs they were exhausted (esp on pearl) playing 10 maps in 2 days straight fucked them up

Fnatic liquid game had both teams guaranteed in master playoffs drx vs prx was serious game for playoffs

pitchfork [#14]

this might be my copium only, drx played amazing in first two maps and terrible in last 3 maps bcs they were exhausted (esp on pearl) playing 10 maps in 2 days straight fucked them up

Yeah that’s similar to what happened to fnatic at lock-in the single elim wasn’t the problem it was the schedule it gave an overwhelming advantage to teams in the alpha bracket over omega bracket because fnatic was forced to play 5 matches in 7 days in a what is supposed to be a fair tournament loud got much more rest not to mention the teams fnatic played were sentinels a team everyone had high hopes for as wel as 100 thieves same expectations, a very good furia side who were thriving off of the crowd and then the most ridiculous thing despite loud and drx having a much longer rest they got to ply their series and then fnatic and na I had to play each other then the winner had to play loud in the finals famtic literally had the hardest schedule possible considering the amount of rest they got in between each series and their opponents they literally played furia then 100 thieves in 2 days and that was 1 of 2 times they played 2 games in 2 days that tournament as just with 1 day of rest after that they played navi then loud that was the reason why fnatic were struggling in that final they were mentally drained by that 3rd

People overreact over Fnatic's loss super hard right now. People act like they dropped below multiple teams by losing one game while they would still be favored against any team outside of LOUD which would be pretty 50/50.

DRX underrating is bit more understandable IMO because they haven't looked as dominant and bit shaky at times, and even in the past they have never won anything and best achivement was top 3.

unknown_trash [#18]

I mean didnt this happen to some.teams last year too? Maybe playoffs teams aren't warmed up and something gets nervous on stage and prx goes 0-2??? HOPIUM

Why you hating bro

"fnatic and drx were both playing terribly during the grand finals"
This is their merit, people say it's a consequence

Agx192 [#19]

Why you hating bro

IDK I CANT GET THIS PRX HATE OUT OF ME (I am praying on their downfall rn, I can't watch drx not be the best team in the Pacific region. Everyone is going to laugh and mock drx especially haters like the fraud king super(shit)nova but drx is a really good team)

pitchfork [#14]

this might be my copium only, drx played amazing in first two maps and terrible in last 3 maps bcs they were exhausted (esp on pearl) playing 10 maps in 2 days straight fucked them up

thats copium. FPX and OPTIC won Masters even though they came from lower bracket

solsolid [#22]

thats copium. FPX and OPTIC won Masters even though they came from lower bracket

yeah that's my copium but fpx won 3-1 against optic, 3-2 prx (9 maps total) optic won against zeta 3-0, 3-0 loud (6 maps totals) totally different from drx (5 maps all close games against t1). also fpx optic drx aren't the same in terms of stamina and mental and we all know that 💀

unknown_trash [#21]

IDK I CANT GET THIS PRX HATE OUT OF ME (I am praying on their downfall rn, I can't watch drx not be the best team in the Pacific region. Everyone is going to laugh and mock drx especially haters like the fraud king super(shit)nova but drx is a really good team)

Bro really praying on downfall of other teams. Who cares about a vlr users opinion? Why you get so mad anyways???? Also stop reading youtube chat

DRX revenge arc incoming

Ldiablo69 [#10]

They were on 8-0streak in league and trolled secret game,??💀

meta changed quite a lot after lock//in and DRX looked lost whether to change or stick to their old comps + foxy9 being unreliable and needing time and Zest being subbed in with no time to prac showed how unstable they were.