guys, this game was close, but why is this a determinant for saying that NA is equal to EU.
Sentinels > fnatic rn, and this is the only way to measure the regions' level.
Team Liquid was a fluke, Version1 had a stand-in.
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edelhose1337 [#3]EU has 6-7 teams that are on a similar level to fnatic. sentinels in turn is by far the best team in na. next masters 4 eu teams will try to stop sentinels. it will be a lot of fun.
yup, honestly I can see gambit stomping everyone
Dwex1 [#4]Not rocket science Lmao Look at the players and you know who wins. Fplc players vs tier 1 csgo players. Ofc they win. Its even a little embarrassing that they made the series close
so true Eu valorant is so dogshit, wait until the danish come ez claps
Daniveus [#6]yup, honestly I can see gambit stomping everyone
Gambit are the best pracc team in Europe, recognized by everyone, if they fix the nerves issues....
edelhose1337 [#3]EU has 6-7 teams that are on a similar level to fnatic. sentinels in turn is by far the best team in na. next masters 4 eu teams will try to stop sentinels. it will be a lot of fun.
i posted this in the wrong place so please downvote it
edelhose1337 [#3]EU has 6-7 teams that are on a similar level to fnatic. sentinels in turn is by far the best team in na. next masters 4 eu teams will try to stop sentinels. it will be a lot of fun.
After this I'm not sure I buy the EU depth argument anymore. I would argue teams like C9 may be even better mechanically than SEN and outside of SEN, the best trio on a team is Asuna, Ethan, Nitro on 100T.
Good to see FNC keep all of the maps close but SEN went 5-0 despite all of the strats and utility FNC threw at them.
Mortadelo [#8]We have to accept it, it's stupid to deny facts. Will see if that changes for Berlin. (I don't think so, and even more if Sen signs a coach)
Its not An L if NA already have better players then us. Yes its an L but we expected an L
saladpalad [#7]so true Eu valorant is so dogshit, wait until the danish come ez claps
wait for masters 3 where nukkye and G2 dominate, EZ FOR NUKKYE
Mortadelo [#8]We have to accept it, it's stupid to deny facts. Will see if that changes for Berlin. (I don't think so, and even more if Sen signs a coach)
No mens, nukkye and G2 will dominate Berlin, EZ FOR NUKKYE
sport2793 [#11]After this I'm not sure I buy the EU depth argument anymore. I would argue teams like C9 may be even better mechanically than SEN and outside of SEN, the best trio on a team is Asuna, Ethan, Nitro on 100T.
Good to see FNC keep all of the maps close but SEN went 5-0 despite all of the strats and utility FNC threw at them.
1.Na: Sentinels 2261 Points. 2.Na: Version1 1994. its a 265 Points Gap
2.Eu: Fnatic 2053 Points. 10. Eu: NiP 1893. its a 160 Points Gap.
edelhose1337 [#15]1.Na: Sentinels 2261 Points. 2.Na: Version1 1994. its a 265 Points Gap
2.Eu: Fnatic 2053 Points. 10. Eu: NiP 1893. its a 160 Points Gap.
Those points don't mean anything right now, very subjective.
sport2793 [#11]After this I'm not sure I buy the EU depth argument anymore. I would argue teams like C9 may be even better mechanically than SEN and outside of SEN, the best trio on a team is Asuna, Ethan, Nitro on 100T.
Good to see FNC keep all of the maps close but SEN went 5-0 despite all of the strats and utility FNC threw at them.
It was very close but so very not close as well. Haven should have at least gone to overtime though. But that's the sport I guess. Props to sentinels. They really have some sort of edge that cuts them apart from the rest. Like it's crazy how this was a 5-0, yet every map was nail-bitingly close. Or maybe Fnatic just choked every round that counted. GGs anyhow.
edelhose1337 [#15]1.Na: Sentinels 2261 Points. 2.Na: Version1 1994. its a 265 Points Gap
2.Eu: Fnatic 2053 Points. 10. Eu: NiP 1893. its a 160 Points Gap.
I'm sorry but u can't use vlr rankings as a argument
sport2793 [#16]Those points don't mean anything right now, very subjective.
Sentinels is just stomping everything in Na. Whats how the points come together. Look at the Match history.
sport2793 [#16]Those points don't mean anything right now, very subjective.
They don't really dictate who wins or loses, but they get higher/lower the more you win and lose. Having a big gap just shows that Sen is on another level compared to other NA teams. Was the same for Vision Strikers in KR, that were up by over 250 points compared to 2nd ranked team, until they lost to F4Q, then Nuturn, which tightened the gap
DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN [#14]No mens, nukkye and G2 will dominate Berlin, EZ FOR NUKKYE
i like it. nukkye > asuna
edelhose1337 [#3]EU has 6-7 teams that are on a similar level to fnatic. sentinels in turn is by far the best team in na. next masters 4 eu teams will try to stop sentinels. it will be a lot of fun.
What? Literally the top 15 teams in NA are all stacked. Sure, they aren’t on sentinels level but that’s because NO ONE is. EU or Na... but 100T, Envy, C9, Faze, and V1 (without the sub) are all at or above the level of Fnatic. I don’t even think V1 is the second best team in NA... they had a good masters qualifiers run but 100T, C9, and Envy are better overall in my opinion.
And then you have the tier 1B teams like XSET, Gen.G, TSM, LG, Immortals, NRG, T1, ANdBOX, and BBG who could all compete with the majority of EU teams. The depth in NA is as good if not deeper than EU. I take it you don’t watch much NA Valorant because 100T has been very competitive with Sentinels. They are the second best team in NA and possibly the second best team in the world. I see 100T beating Fnatic relatively easily.
Dwex1 [#12]Its not An L if NA already have better players then us. Yes its an L but we expected an L
I didn't see any Person accept the fact that SEN will win except for NA fans. EU fans were looking for a fat dub not an L. This is an L for EU and not because NA have better players but because NA has better teams and meta.
Dwex1 [#12]Its not An L if NA already have better players then us. Yes its an L but we expected an L
LOL It was not an expected L. Just look back on the posts a week ago. Most of EU fans expected EU to win.
H3LiX [#27]What? Literally the top 15 teams in NA are all stacked. Sure, they aren’t on sentinels level but that’s because NO ONE is. EU or Na... but 100T, Envy, C9, Faze, and V1 (without the sub) are all at or above the level of Fnatic. I don’t even think V1 is the second best team in NA... they had a good masters qualifiers run but 100T, C9, and Envy are better overall in my opinion.
And then you have the tier 1B teams like XSET, Gen.G, TSM, LG, Immortals, NRG, T1, ANdBOX, and BBG who could all compete with the majority of EU teams. The depth in NA is as good if not deeper than EU. I take it you don’t watch much NA Valorant because 100T has been very competitive with Sentinels. They are the second best team in NA and possibly the second best team in the world. I see 100T beating Fnatic relatively easily.
I can't say teams like XSET or Gen.G can match up with the top EU teams but definitely 100T, NV, C9, V1, and Faze can. All of those teams maybe with the exception of V1 have more firepower than any EU team (V1 have better adaptations and IGL atm though).
Pristyna [#21]i like it. nukkye > asuna
You're smoking something if you think this. Derke is better than nukkye and honestly I would rate players like Wardell more than him after seeing him go up twice against SEN. Asuna is the #1 ranked NA player and he's often been a problem for SEN and other NA teams to handle, not to mention how good Ethan is also.
EU fans have seriously underestimated NA this entire time and continue to do so. I personally believe that the margin between EU and NA is quite small. You have a team above every team in either region in SEN, and then a blob of teams from both regions that land in the same tier (in a top 9 I would put 5 NA teams [SEN, C9, 100T, V1, NV] and 4 EMEA teams [FNC, FPX, Gambit, G2 with rumored new roster or Acend with current roster] in no particular order apart from SEN #1). I think any of the EMEA teams can beat the NA teams on a given day and vice-versa. So we can't say one region is far and above the other and can't say the new G2 will dominate anything at this time.
sport2793 [#30]I can't say teams like XSET or Gen.G can match up with the top EU teams but definitely 100T, NV, C9, V1, and Faze can. All of those teams maybe with the exception of V1 have more firepower than any EU team (V1 have better adaptations and IGL atm though).
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