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Hypothetical: if you could change a round

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#1
zombzino

if you could change one round in any match, which round would it be?
would this be consequential to the map, series, or even the event?

i wanna know some ideas

#2
SigmaMale
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probably optic v loud champions final ascent where fns whiffed hard in OT and cost them the round and then the game

#3
spookmeister
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Xset beat fpx

#4
Dolphin
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Lakia 1v2 against v1 in Iceland 2021 because as a v1 fan that hurt to watch

#5
SigmaMale
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Dolphin [#4]

Lakia 1v2 against v1 in Iceland 2021 because as a v1 fan that hurt to watch

fuck i forgot about that

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Gutssz
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https://www.vlr.gg/34960/acend-vs-supermassive-blaze-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-decider-a

SMB is lead 8-6 on Map 3
We should have made 9-6, but in 2v4 position we lost the round and it becomes 8-7 :/

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thatpower
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Gutssz [#6]

https://www.vlr.gg/34960/acend-vs-supermassive-blaze-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-decider-a

SMB is lead 8-6 on Map 3
We should have made 9-6, but in 2v4 position we lost the round and it becomes 8-7 :/

don’t forget about bonkar’s clutch on icebox

#8
sad_gambit_fan
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0.02 seconds

#9
SigmaMale
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sad_gambit_fan [#8]

0.02 seconds

😭

#10
Sprouts
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OpTic vs DRX Upper Semi Finals in Reykjavik, DRX get the defuse that was at 0.04 seconds and win 2-0, making the 5-6th curse never happen

#11
queueK
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Way back in masters 3 berlin '21 there was a round where forsaken walks backwards into a raze nade in ropes and dies after being rez-d. I think if PRX won that round vs SMB they would've taken the series and placed top 6 minimum in the playoffs. They then would qualify to champions (lost spot to bren because of a seeding match loss) where I think they would play with jingg and perform well too.

#12
Gutssz
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thatpower [#7]

don’t forget about bonkar’s clutch on icebox

#2 for me

#13
Mortadelo
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KRU vs GMB, I just wanted KRU to finish that run so bad

#14
Gutssz
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Mortadelo [#13]

KRU vs GMB, I just wanted KRU to finish that run so bad

KRU's final boss was Chronicle and they failed

#15
Seulgi
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OPTC vs DRX champions lower final round 13 haven

#16
Yeetus
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SigmaMale [#2]

probably optic v loud champions final ascent where fns whiffed hard in OT and cost them the round and then the game

or crashies right click on that map

#17
Qwertyy
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C9 vs FKS round 21 map 3

#18
Subreezy
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sad_gambit_fan [#8]

0.02 seconds

this is the best answer, genuinely unfortunate seeing the outcome of a match change due to 0.02s. that match was a top 5 ever for me and i don't even like watching EMEA regional matches

#19
Akukko
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Masters Reykjavik 2021 Sentinels vs Fnatic Haven last round

#20
SigmaMale
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Akukko [#19]

Masters Reykjavik 2021 Sentinels vs Fnatic Haven last round

🐦

#21
queueK
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Akukko [#19]

Masters Reykjavik 2021 Sentinels vs Fnatic Haven last round

:( the flash

#22
Olofboost
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sad_gambit_fan [#8]

0.02 seconds

Or the one against Scream on Icebox in grand final LCQ, the round which stopped M3C from going to Champs

#23
leleuu
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Vikings vs Gambit sacy whiffed at sheydos in a 1v2, where he had sova ult at 12x8

#24
Desker
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x10 vs gambit round 15 on breeze

#25
trola
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sad_gambit_fan [#8]

0.02 seconds

🥲

#26
ilovefrozenblueberries
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The round that lost me my rankup to bronze 3

#27
archetype
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any round in an OpTic vs DRX game

#28
Kezyyz
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Yeetus [#16]

or crashies right click on that map

yep ^

#29
Stlasher
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Kru vs gambit champs 2021 kru closes out bind

#30
dexter000111
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100T vs Guard challengers group stage map 1 Haven
There was a round where sayaplayer brainlessly dashed in the face of 2 players and clutched a 1v2. That's not something Hiko allows to happen normally but it was pretty unlucky. 100T lost the map 12-14. If not for that round they could've won 13-11 and could've 2-0'd Guard since they won next map (Split 13-6)
Instead it went to map 3 where they got 13-0'd 💀

This was the ec1s and BabyJ roster btw. I think it would've been interesting to see how they could've panned out given another chance

#31
kitsunee
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https://www.vlr.gg/68730/soniqs-vs-luminosity-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-lr6

soniqs lost a 4v2 that would've put them in the group stage. Soniqs were so close and now all the players split apart and some aren't even signed :(((

#32
fdzs
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The closest situation to win 2 Major titles.

Gambit vs Acend Grand Final 2021 Champs
Gambit with 2-1 lead,
4th map is Icebox 12-11, Gambit is leading
Full buy + Op vs 4 rifles + spectre

https://youtu.be/WxPt4oM4DYo 2:59:25

Everyone from GMB played too passive without any map control. B played with no B long control, A played without A main control (sheydos on screens or behind screens), mid after early aggression from d3ffo was played passive as well. Gambit were worried about potential push from every position. They were caught off guard when Acend took B long just by contact. Only d3ffo was B site(other were in rotations to other positions, cuz of no map control), but it was not enough to stop 5 men exec. Unretakeable after kill on redgar. OT.

#33
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sad_gambit_fan [#8]

0.02 seconds

the beginning of the spike defuse curse sadge, could have qualified to m1 and possibly even champs

#34
BackoxyXD
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oxg vs g2

Breeze
Avova 1v2

#35
ItsMeDio
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sad_gambit_fan [#8]

0.02 seconds

As former Gambit fans 🙃

#36
FrostTree187
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I wonder what would happen if d4v4i did not fall of the ledge on breeze against fpx

#37
Mathias8008
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leviatan vs fnatic (Bind Overtime)

#38
WinterZ
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https://www.vlr.gg/30766/gambit-esports-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-stage-3-emea-challengers-playoffs-lr3/?game=47921&tab=overview

I'd change round 24 of map 3 so that soulcas holds mid properly, sees the 3 stack in mid, and then ScreaM whips around and kills them all at the start of the round and then the rest of the team kills Chronicle and Redgar, thus sending Liquid to Berlin

#39
ZeRUSia
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DRX vs OPTIC in champs 2022, in map 5, when we got eco'ed by marved with crazy bulldog 4k.

#42
Mortadelo
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Gutssz [#14]

KRU's final boss was Chronicle and they failed

They had 4 match points that game

#43
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN
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this honestly would have little to do with the outcome but i wish the ardiis 1v3 on ascent vs drx never happened

my heart sank so much. and i really thought the drx curse was happening again

#44
no1haterbutloveyou2
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  1. nAts ace in bind against team secret in 2021 champs
  2. some rounds after his ace, Redgar's 1v2 happened
#45
Derpp
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DRX vs LOUD Champions 2022 playoff upper S/F.
Round 24 (LOUD 12-11 DRX) saadhak hit a ridiculously lucky shot costing DRX the map, LOUD was on their momentum but DRX had the chance to win out the map since they are very strong on OT

#46
soonwookong
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PRX vs DRX, the 1v5

#47
zombzino
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fdzs [#32]

The closest situation to win 2 Major titles.

Gambit vs Acend Grand Final 2021 Champs
Gambit with 2-1 lead,
4th map is Icebox 12-11, Gambit is leading
Full buy + Op vs 4 rifles + spectre

https://youtu.be/WxPt4oM4DYo 2:59:25

Everyone from GMB played too passive without any map control. B played with no B long control, A played without A main control (sheydos on screens or behind screens), mid after early aggression from d3ffo was played passive as well. Gambit were worried about potential push from every position. They were caught off guard when Acend took B long just by contact. Only d3ffo was B site(other were in rotations to other positions, cuz of no map control), but it was not enough to stop 5 men exec. Unretakeable after kill on redgar. OT.

damn this is rough

#48
gamr
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Marved ace vs The Guard map 3. People like to rewrite history as if The Guard got completely shit on at Reykjavik but they were 2 rounds away from beating Optic. This round started The Guard’s choke. If Marved didn’t ace then The Guard might’ve not just beaten Optic, they could’ve even placed top 4 maybe.

#49
Wronghand
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This might be bending the rules too much, but I would change the first round that Keyd Esports used their illegal cam, leading them to (in this hypothetical situation) never use the cam, never having to redo breeze, and sending Acend to the lower bracket after the first match.

What does this do?

Well, EnVy could then have won through the upper bracket rather than losing to x10 in the lower finals. Either x10 doesn't make the real playoffs, or a slightly broken Acend squad (who would eventually win the entire thing) would lose before the real playoffs.

Team legacies of Gambit and EnVy (2022 OpTic) would have been greatly affected should Acend have lost that Breeze Map without the illegal cam. I mean, even if you subtract one of the free rounds given to Acend, Keyd still have a HUGE opportunity to win. Acend got 7 free rounds and only won 13-10.

Also, based on how ACEND's mental state has been shown to be, if they had that loss I expect them to be a much less lethal team.

#50
Krivix
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any of the rounds where FNS whiffing costed optic

#51
Dokka
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Gambit wins the thrifty that Acend got in Map four on 2021 Champs

or the 12-11 on that same match

those rounds haunt me

#52
zombzino
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DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN [#43]

this honestly would have little to do with the outcome but i wish the ardiis 1v3 on ascent vs drx never happened

my heart sank so much. and i really thought the drx curse was happening again

probably the best clutch this year

#53
lowELOguy
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sen vs kru final split map 12-11 :(

#54
zombzino
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lowELOguy [#53]

sen vs kru final split map 12-11 :(

that 3k through the smoke took years off my life

#55
titanwithpp
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In champions Istanbul, DRX vs OpTic on haven, 5th map where victor ran in with a stinger and got 4 kills, turning the momentum in OpTic's favor. If that round went to DRX it would being 3-2 in the favor of DRX.

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fusb1re
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PRX vs FPX, master 2 final, map 5

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