Chamber - yay , ardiis , Cryo
Smokes - pancada , Mako , marved
Sentinel - suygetsu , less , nats
Initiator - shao , stax , crashies ( no midCJ🥺 )
Duelist - aspas , jingg , scream
Flex - Rb , victor , zekken
IGL - saadhak , angel , FNS
Sauce - VCT 2022
Edits - forsaken in place of scream ? , alfa in place of nats ? , Sacy in place of crashies ? .
And obviously Mako > pancada it's not just champions so it makes sense to put Mako at #1
Neonfreak [#4]Zyppan > all 3 on flex and Mako is definitely better on smokes
oh and FNS > ange1
That IGL indicates IGLING skills + aim + staying composed in pressure situations .
FNS acts like a 15yo child when things doesn't go his way , he's lucky to be at 3 because we don't have so many great IGLs .
Oh and angel can shoot better than FNS . Angel adapts better than saadhak but he can't aim like saadhak .
burritx [#9]Man really put crashies over there but not Sacy kkkkkkkkkk
It's rough to make this top 3 , did it only for the contradicting opinions from others 💀
I missed so many good players
pitchfork [#10]mako > pancada,
just bcs he's champs mvp doesn't mean he's better than mako in every aspect of controller
DRX momento numero dos
5-6th
5-6th
3rd
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#7]That IGL indicates IGLING skills + aim + staying composed in pressure situations .
FNS acts like a 15yo child when things doesn't go his way , he's lucky to be at 3 because we don't have so many great IGLs .
Oh and angel can shoot better than FNS . Angel adapts better than saadhak but he can't aim like saadhak .
"lucky to be top 3" he was the IGL for the best team this year, I feel like that counts for a lot
Neonfreak [#13]"lucky to be top 3" he was the IGL for the best team this year, I feel like that counts for a lot
That's a joke 😂 he easily makes it top 3 and he's at 3 because of his poor aim and his composure. An IGLs role is not just " calling " afaik , take dephh for example he may not be as good as these 3 but dude stays calm and calms the youngsters during overheating moments .
burritx [#12]DRX momento numero dos
5-6th
5-6th
3rd
u cant argue abt individual performance / skills so u bringing up team achievement lol
koromast [#15]bro placed nats on sentinel over alfajer, laz and buzz
What are you on ?
Alfa's success mostly came with his raze . His kj , sage is not top tier . Laz and buzz mostly player chamber .
I considered chamber as a separate category here not
" sentinel " he's more of a duelist than a sentinel .
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#22]What are you on ?
Alfa's success mostly came with his raze . His kj , sage is not top tier . Laz and buzz mostly player chamber .
I considered chamber as a separate category here not
" sentinel " he's more of a duelist than a sentinel .
i know you considered chamber as another category, still laz and buzz on their best shape this year played killjoy and laz also played viper and cypher on jp qualifiers while being successful as fuck on igl role. alfa is just top tier on killjoy and even if his sage is mid he played way better on sentinels this year than nats which only played viper and chamber on his best performance (LCQ 2nd place).
ItsMeDio [#19]i don't agree with crashies, zekken, rb, victor, and scream
the rest is good list
Sacy for crashies ?
Give your flex list , there are too many flex players out there .
Forsaken for scream ?
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#24]Sacy for crashies ?
Give your flex list , there are too many flex players out there .
Forsaken for scream ?
Derke for Scream (his individual performance master 2 & champs is insane)
Sacy for crashies agree
flex: alfajer, jamppi, f0rsaken
pitchfork [#21]u cant argue abt individual performance / skills so u bringing up team achievement lol
Individual performance abt what
I'm not talking about pANcada vs MaKo 💀
burritx [#26]Individual performance abt what
I'm not talking about pANcada vs MaKo 💀
then why on earth u replied to me when im literally talking abt mako vs pancada 💀
koromast [#23]i know you considered chamber as another category, still laz and buzz on their best shape this year played killjoy and laz also played viper and cypher on jp qualifiers while being successful as fuck on igl role. alfa is just top tier on killjoy and even if his sage is mid he played way better on sentinels this year than nats which only played viper and chamber on his best performance (LCQ 2nd place).
im sorry but nats clears buzz and laz
horse69 [#29]im sorry but nats clears buzz and laz
buzz and laz are the mvps of their teams while they got atleast a top 3 on a international tourney this year beating the teams who diffed m3c on all the vct stages such as liquid fnatic and fpx wdym?
Sprouts [#28]chamber: w picks
smokes: disagree with order but w picks
sentinel: w picks
initiator: w picks
duelist BuZz or f0rsakeN > ScreaM
flex: Alfajer > Victor
IGL: w picks
Forsaken > scream . Fair enough .
ItsMeDio [#25]Derke for Scream (his individual performance master 2 & champs is insane)
Sacy for crashies agreeflex: alfajer, jamppi, f0rsaken
Indo mf tried to sneak in f0rsaken again lmao
koromast [#31]buzz and laz are the mvps of their teams while they got atleast a top 3 on a international tourney this year beating the teams who diffed m3c on all the vct stages such as liquid fnatic and fpx wdym?
andrewdamf [#30]initator: shao, stax, sacy
duelist: aspas, derke, scream
flex: rb, zekken, saadhak
igl: saadhak, redgar, ange1
chamber: yay, derke, cryo
except from that pretty based list
redgar??
horse69 [#34]
- nats has a title
- he always came 1st ~ 3rd on his team using smokes and sometimes chamber
- at least got a top3: drx came 5th~6th other than champs, zeta didn't make out of groups excluding masters 1 (didn't even qualify to masters 2)
bro talks about past year as argument even though valorant is harder now.
Yi_Long_MA [#33]Indo mf tried to sneak in f0rsaken again lmao
i know you are trolling but f0rsaken is top player.
top 6 master 1 with jett and yoru
top 2 master 2 excluding grand final with chamber, yoru and neon, which the only game he's underperform quite bad
and i remembered that he was top 4 in LCQ 2021 with only using kayo, sova, and sage
always dominating apac challenger
also his stats all agent of all time is always above 200 ACS
thanks for listening my ted talk
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#17]That's a joke 😂 he easily makes it top 3 and he's at 3 because of his poor aim and his composure. An IGLs role is not just " calling " afaik , take dephh for example he may not be as good as these 3 but dude stays calm and calms the youngsters during overheating moments .
Bro really comparing fns with dephh💀
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#17]That's a joke 😂 he easily makes it top 3 and he's at 3 because of his poor aim and his composure. An IGLs role is not just " calling " afaik , take dephh for example he may not be as good as these 3 but dude stays calm and calms the youngsters during overheating moments .
bro what are you even judging this from
how did you decide that you know what FNS and dephh do with their teams in matches and how they act like what ru sayin bro
Zenithh [#40]bro what are you even judging this from
how did you decide that you know what FNS and dephh do with their teams in matches and how they act like what ru sayin bro
" how did you decide that .... " Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL .
At least open your eyes during tech pauses ( bare minimum ) .
FNS acts like a anxious 15yo when things don't go his way he's mad at others and when his team is winning he acts like he's 30-5 on the server . We all know how salty they were after losing to LOUD in upper finals 🥺 victor throwing something was a classic 💀 .
And tell that clown above you " FNS and depph are both IGLs and hence they can be compared "
andrewdamf [#30]initator: shao, stax, sacy
duelist: aspas, derke, scream
flex: rb, zekken, saadhak
igl: saadhak, redgar, ange1
chamber: yay, derke, cryo
except from that pretty based list
how does fns not make top 3 igl
Zenithh [#40]bro what are you even judging this from
how did you decide that you know what FNS and dephh do with their teams in matches and how they act like what ru sayin bro
This is just a teaser .
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#41]" how did you decide that .... " Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL .
At least open your eyes during tech pauses ( bare minimum ) .
FNS acts like a anxious 15yo when things don't go his way he's mad at others and when his team is winning he acts like he's 30-5 on the server . We all know how salty they were after losing to LOUD in upper finals 🥺 victor throwing something was a classic 💀 .And tell that clown above you " FNS and depph are both IGLs and hence they can be compared "
W
ItsMeDio [#37]i know you are trolling but f0rsaken is top player.
top 6 master 1 with jett and yoru
top 2 master 2 excluding grand final with chamber, yoru and neon, which the only game he's underperform quite badand i remembered that he was top 4 in LCQ 2021 with only using kayo, sova, and sage
always dominating apac challenger
also his stats all agent of all time is always above 200 ACS
thanks for listening my ted talk
Top 3 flex player itw who cannot play initiator and smoke in vct international? do you even know what flex means or your delusional indo brain ignoring it?
maximumszn [#50]Zyppan is miles better than Rb
Not sure about miles but zyppan is better than rb recently but if you take the whole of 2022 , rb deserves to be here . Maybe zyppan got heavily overshadowed by shao , suygetsu and ardiis ?? Idk
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#51]Not sure about miles but zyppan is better than rb recently but if you take the whole of 2022 , rb deserves to be here . Maybe zyppan got heavily overshadowed by shao , suygetsu and ardiis ?? Idk
idk zyppan has been able to achieve slightly better stats and also able to win an international trophy. I personally think zyppan is better than victor and rb but agree to disagree ig
NG1nS [#53]keep underrating him
He's underrated , I'm not underrating or underestimating LOL . He's getting overshadowed heavily ( understandable ) , he started to play jett hopefully he'll let angel unlock " zyppan go kill " in vct 2023 kickoff . His peak is better than those three flexes above but this list based on quantity ( over whole of 2022 )
naah bro you trippin you got some sort of cNed hate or sum? he obviously clears half of that list and you still not mention him
When he plays Chamber he basically beats every other one trick chambers
When he plays Kayo (even its not his main role) he plays better than the actual initiator mains on that list
When he plays Jett, I think i dont need to explain this
HE IS THE GOAT
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#41]" how did you decide that .... " Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL .
At least open your eyes during tech pauses ( bare minimum ) .
FNS acts like a anxious 15yo when things don't go his way he's mad at others and when his team is winning he acts like he's 30-5 on the server . We all know how salty they were after losing to LOUD in upper finals 🥺 victor throwing something was a classic 💀 .And tell that clown above you " FNS and depph are both IGLs and hence they can be compared "
vanity clears both fns and dephh, c9 ez champs 2023 imagine thinking nrg is going anywhere
nutab1e [#57]vanity clears both fns and dephh, c9 ez champs 2023 imagine thinking nrg is going anywhere
Won't it be funny if NRG get eliminated in group stages .
Oh wait I've seen this before 👀 #2 followed by bye bye
koromast [#36]bro talks about past year as argument even though valorant is harder now.
dude, you are just delusional at this point. Players dont just lose their skills, esp when he was just insane at his peak in sentinel agents. You will see nAts, cned, chronicle, zeek farming most of these teams this kickoffs just as hard as ardiis, yay, shao, aspas did this year. Laz will be diffed into irrelevency again. just like after masters 1, where they would have been grouped if fnatic has derke.
BoF7ooM [#60]dude, you are just delusional at this point. Players dont just lose their skills, esp when he was just insane at his peak in sentinel agents. You will see nAts, cned, chronicle, zeek farming most of these teams this kickoffs just as hard as ardiis, yay, shao, aspas did this year. Laz will be diffed into irrelevency again. just like after masters 1, where they would have been grouped if fnatic has derke.
it's funny because laz is already getting diffed hard, didn't even make all of the international tournaments this year and this guy is talking about living in the past? 😂 fluked hard in iceland because half of shitmea wasn't there and then went back to getting grouped
EnzoLS12 [#61]So excited that next year mwzera will be on every tier list. Also tuyz, if Sacy and Saad were able to teach Pancada how to play smokes, with tuyz it will be insane.
From clout POV , I want LOUD to win the kickoff event which will be historical .
From my POV - it will be one of these teams
NAVI
end of list
Jk
DRX
TL
FNC
NRG
These teams have so much experience
nutab1e [#62]it's funny because laz is already getting diffed hard, didn't even make all of the international tournaments this year and this guy is talking about living in the past? 😂 fluked hard in iceland because half of shitmea wasn't there and then went back to getting grouped
Exactly, no matter how hard shitnatic fails in big matches, they are certainly not shit enough to lose to ZETA.
reversexd [#2]id put sugarzero over marved other than that i dont mind 👍
lmao marved is number 1 controller in the world rn now way sugar0 is better
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#64]From clout POV , I want LOUD to win the kickoff event which will be historical .
From my POV - it will be one of these teams
NAVI
end of list
JkDRX
TL
FNC
NRGThese teams have so much experience
Curious about what you think of C9, PRX, and Sen going in this tourney
Ryuji [#67]lmao marved is number 1 controller in the world rn now way sugar0 is better
id take bang mako pancada sugarzer0 all over marved im downvote farmin td
Strafe7 [#68]Curious about what you think of C9, PRX, and Sen going in this tourney
C9
Simply this is a new valorant team , they have to start from the bottom . I don't think this team will have a top tier sova / fade / breech and sentinel player . This team is a hit or miss , overhyped and overrated.
PRX
SEN
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#41]" how did you decide that .... " Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL .
At least open your eyes during tech pauses ( bare minimum ) .
FNS acts like a anxious 15yo when things don't go his way he's mad at others and when his team is winning he acts like he's 30-5 on the server . We all know how salty they were after losing to LOUD in upper finals 🥺 victor throwing something was a classic 💀 .And tell that clown above you " FNS and depph are both IGLs and hence they can be compared "
idk whats worse here
the fact that he thinks FNS would get mad at his teammates in a match or this guy flexing that he watches 3 hrs of valorant pro gameplay at a designated time
Zenithh [#71]idk whats worse here
the fact that he thinks FNS would get mad at his teammates in a match or this guy flexing that he watches 3 hrs of valorant pro gameplay at a designated time
Neither , your life is far worse . And watching the gameplay is being a fan , not flexing 🤡 . Sit down kid
Number1_suygetsu_fan [#72]Neither , your life is far worse . And watching the gameplay is being a fan , not flexing 🤡 . Sit down kid
"Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL ." "🤡 . Sit down kid"
some people have to be npcs
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