TOP 3 Player by roles

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

Chamber - yay , ardiis , Cryo

Smokes - pancada , Mako , marved

Sentinel - suygetsu , less , nats

Initiator - shao , stax , crashies ( no midCJ🥺 )

Duelist - aspas , jingg , scream

Flex - Rb , victor , zekken

IGL - saadhak , angel , FNS

Sauce - VCT 2022

Edits - forsaken in place of scream ? , alfa in place of nats ? , Sacy in place of crashies ? .

And obviously Mako > pancada it's not just champions so it makes sense to put Mako at #1

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id put sugarzero over marved other than that i dont mind 👍

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Who

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Marved was played for Optic, he take a break from competitive

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Cares

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Ryuji

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lmao marved is number 1 controller in the world rn now way sugar0 is better

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id take bang mako pancada sugarzer0 all over marved im downvote farmin td

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Surprisingly good list

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plus one

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Neonfreak

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Zyppan > all 3 on flex and Mako is definitely better on smokes

oh and FNS > ange1

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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That IGL indicates IGLING skills + aim + staying composed in pressure situations .

FNS acts like a 15yo child when things doesn't go his way , he's lucky to be at 3 because we don't have so many great IGLs .

Oh and angel can shoot better than FNS . Angel adapts better than saadhak but he can't aim like saadhak .

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Neonfreak

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"lucky to be top 3" he was the IGL for the best team this year, I feel like that counts for a lot

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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That's a joke 😂 he easily makes it top 3 and he's at 3 because of his poor aim and his composure. An IGLs role is not just " calling " afaik , take dephh for example he may not be as good as these 3 but dude stays calm and calms the youngsters during overheating moments .

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Bro really comparing fns with dephh💀

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Zenithh

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bro what are you even judging this from

how did you decide that you know what FNS and dephh do with their teams in matches and how they act like what ru sayin bro

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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" how did you decide that .... " Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL .
At least open your eyes during tech pauses ( bare minimum ) .
FNS acts like a anxious 15yo when things don't go his way he's mad at others and when his team is winning he acts like he's 30-5 on the server . We all know how salty they were after losing to LOUD in upper finals 🥺 victor throwing something was a classic 💀 .

And tell that clown above you " FNS and depph are both IGLs and hence they can be compared "

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vanity clears both fns and dephh, c9 ez champs 2023 imagine thinking nrg is going anywhere

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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Won't it be funny if NRG get eliminated in group stages .

Oh wait I've seen this before 👀 #2 followed by bye bye

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Zenithh

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idk whats worse here

the fact that he thinks FNS would get mad at his teammates in a match or this guy flexing that he watches 3 hrs of valorant pro gameplay at a designated time

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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Neither , your life is far worse . And watching the gameplay is being a fan , not flexing 🤡 . Sit down kid

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Zenithh

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"Because I watch the matches live unlike you who watches highlights LOL ." "🤡 . Sit down kid"

some people have to be npcs

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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https://youtu.be/g8dTb4A2_QE

https://youtu.be/b6N8gqfwyGg

This is just a teaser .

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Laz is def in the discussion of best chamber and so is sugarzero

Japan could've won if there's 3 more laz/sugarzero level of players in Zeta(arguably 2 with dep being decent enough)

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BetaSahara

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Stax lan win 0
Ange1 lan win 1

Stax prob 4th though

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W on chamber, l on igl

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GYKM

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I love stax but he's def not better than Ange1

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burritx

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Man really put crashies over there but not Sacy kkkkkkkkkk

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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It's rough to make this top 3 , did it only for the contradicting opinions from others 💀

I missed so many good players

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mako > pancada,

just bcs he's champs mvp doesn't mean he's better than mako in every aspect of controller

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burritx

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DRX momento numero dos
5-6th
5-6th
3rd

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pitchfork

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u cant argue abt individual performance / skills so u bringing up team achievement lol

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burritx

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Individual performance abt what
I'm not talking about pANcada vs MaKo 💀

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pitchfork

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then why on earth u replied to me when im literally talking abt mako vs pancada 💀

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zombzino

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this is probably the safest most realistic list ive ever seen on this site

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koromast

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bro placed nats on sentinel over alfajer, laz and buzz

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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What are you on ?
Alfa's success mostly came with his raze . His kj , sage is not top tier . Laz and buzz mostly player chamber .
I considered chamber as a separate category here not
" sentinel " he's more of a duelist than a sentinel .

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koromast

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i know you considered chamber as another category, still laz and buzz on their best shape this year played killjoy and laz also played viper and cypher on jp qualifiers while being successful as fuck on igl role. alfa is just top tier on killjoy and even if his sage is mid he played way better on sentinels this year than nats which only played viper and chamber on his best performance (LCQ 2nd place).

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im sorry but nats clears buzz and laz

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koromast

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buzz and laz are the mvps of their teams while they got atleast a top 3 on a international tourney this year beating the teams who diffed m3c on all the vct stages such as liquid fnatic and fpx wdym?

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horse69

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nats has a title
he always came 1st ~ 3rd on his team using smokes and sometimes chamber
at least got a top3: drx came 5th~6th other than champs, zeta didn't make out of groups excluding masters 1 (didn't even qualify to masters 2)

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koromast

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bro talks about past year as argument even though valorant is harder now.

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dude, you are just delusional at this point. Players dont just lose their skills, esp when he was just insane at his peak in sentinel agents. You will see nAts, cned, chronicle, zeek farming most of these teams this kickoffs just as hard as ardiis, yay, shao, aspas did this year. Laz will be diffed into irrelevency again. just like after masters 1, where they would have been grouped if fnatic has derke.

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it's funny because laz is already getting diffed hard, didn't even make all of the international tournaments this year and this guy is talking about living in the past? 😂 fluked hard in iceland because half of shitmea wasn't there and then went back to getting grouped

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BoF7ooM

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Exactly, no matter how hard shitnatic fails in big matches, they are certainly not shit enough to lose to ZETA.

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Granite

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nAts mainly plays cypher and viper tho... hes other agents are astra and chamber

is that considered flex or still sentinel

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Finally non biased list

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ItsMeDio

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i don't agree with crashies, zekken, rb, victor, and scream

the rest is good list

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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Sacy for crashies ?
Give your flex list , there are too many flex players out there .
Forsaken for scream ?

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ItsMeDio

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Derke for Scream (his individual performance master 2 & champs is insane)
Sacy for crashies agree

flex: alfajer, jamppi, f0rsaken

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Yi_Long_MA

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Indo mf tried to sneak in f0rsaken again lmao

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ItsMeDio

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i know you are trolling but f0rsaken is top player.

top 6 master 1 with jett and yoru
top 2 master 2 excluding grand final with chamber, yoru and neon, which the only game he's underperform quite bad

and i remembered that he was top 4 in LCQ 2021 with only using kayo, sova, and sage

always dominating apac challenger

also his stats all agent of all time is always above 200 ACS

thanks for listening my ted talk

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Yi_Long_MA

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Top 3 flex player itw who cannot play initiator and smoke in vct international? do you even know what flex means or your delusional indo brain ignoring it?

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Sprouts

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chamber: w picks
smokes: disagree with order but w picks
sentinel: w picks
initiator: w picks
duelist BuZz or f0rsakeN > ScreaM
flex: Alfajer > Victor
IGL: w picks

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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Forsaken > scream . Fair enough .

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initator: shao, stax, sacy
duelist: aspas, derke, scream
flex: rb, zekken, saadhak
igl: saadhak, redgar, ange1
chamber: yay, derke, cryo
except from that pretty based list

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horse69

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redgar??

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how does fns not make top 3 igl

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Babybay_delusional_fan

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Sniper: cNed, Yay, Ardiis
Anchor: nAts, suygetsu, ...
Info support: Chronicle, Shao, Sacy
Smokes support: Marved, Pancada, Mako
Entry Duelist: Babybay, Aspas, Saya

This is true top 3 except anchor role, idk top third its hard to say.

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Zyppan is miles better than Rb

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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Not sure about miles but zyppan is better than rb recently but if you take the whole of 2022 , rb deserves to be here . Maybe zyppan got heavily overshadowed by shao , suygetsu and ardiis ?? Idk

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idk zyppan has been able to achieve slightly better stats and also able to win an international trophy. I personally think zyppan is better than victor and rb but agree to disagree ig

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keep underrating him

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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He's underrated , I'm not underrating or underestimating LOL . He's getting overshadowed heavily ( understandable ) , he started to play jett hopefully he'll let angel unlock " zyppan go kill " in vct 2023 kickoff . His peak is better than those three flexes above but this list based on quantity ( over whole of 2022 )

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naah bro you trippin you got some sort of cNed hate or sum? he obviously clears half of that list and you still not mention him

When he plays Chamber he basically beats every other one trick chambers
When he plays Kayo (even its not his main role) he plays better than the actual initiator mains on that list
When he plays Jett, I think i dont need to explain this

HE IS THE GOAT

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kapteN

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initiator: Leo should be in there

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bro u forgot my guy SKbotssi

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EnzoLS12

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So excited that next year mwzera will be on every tier list. Also tuyz, if Sacy and Saad were able to teach Pancada how to play smokes, with tuyz it will be insane.

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Number1_suygetsu_fan

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From clout POV , I want LOUD to win the kickoff event which will be historical .

From my POV - it will be one of these teams

NAVI
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Jk

DRX
TL
FNC
NRG

These teams have so much experience

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Curious about what you think of C9, PRX, and Sen going in this tourney

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C9

role conflicts
no chamber no party
zellsis their best Player
the clueless core of ( vanity, leaf , xeppa )
angry child IGL chokes under pressure
good coach

Simply this is a new valorant team , they have to start from the bottom . I don't think this team will have a top tier sova / fade / breech and sentinel player . This team is a hit or miss , overhyped and overrated.

PRX

no intros needed
the only thing they need is " new strategy "
and they are good at creating meta ( I'm sure they will bring something new to kickoff )
but they couldn't adapt to others if their style gets countered
can make a good run but not like Copenhagen

SEN

let's pretend that sacy and pancada understand basic callouts from dephh by the time of vct kickoff
retaining the proven coach - igl combo with their star player is a huge W ( xset core )
two world champions to bring extra experience and inputs
the only question mark is Tenz Batchest 😂
If bro started shaking in LAN under pressure it's not going to go well but with chamber nerf I wouldn't be surprised if tenz plays well.
top tier smokes , top tier initator , top tier entry , decent IGL . This is a better team than cloud 9 any day but let's see it's all on tenz