M3C Fix from a fan opinion

I've watched every Gambit game since Masters 3 EMEA challengers, I've seen this team in its prime and I've seen this team struggle, like right now. I'm nowhere close to an analyst but just watching M3C playstyle I've noticed a lot of issues.
Again, I know nothing about what's going on behind the scenes, and what I'm saying could be very presumptuous so I'm sorry if what I say is really fucking stupid D:

I love this team and love these players
Even if they beat somehow Liquid in my opinion, something needs to change.

I truly don't think that any player needs to be dropped, we've seen the mechanical skill and game sense with all 5 of the players. Hell they won Masters 3
Just to list off a few of this team's incredible strengths

• Individual aim: There is not a single player has bad aim on the team
• Clutch potential: Everybody can clutch, nAts is probably one of the best clutch players in the game, anyone can pull off a clutch
• Mental fortitude: This team has some of the best mental in the entire game, they have pulled off insane comebacks against the best teams in the world
• Breeze: Yea just ban it but, they are still the best Breeze team in the world
• The players: You undeniably have multiple top 20 players on this roster

I think the issues in the team lay in things like the mid-round and post-plant decision-making. I'm gonna separate it into sections

1. Post plants
   This problem became very apparent on Icebox against Liquid just a little bit ago.
   M3C can get themselves onto sites very well, they prevent teams from being able to push them back excellently. The issue I see resides in their post plants, they get on sites and then most of the time just up and leave. Opting to play longer post plants, this lets the enemy back into the site, and have free time to set up utility and defuse. It's 50/50 to be able to stop a defuse. When we saw a 3v4 where the players remained on sites, their raw skill and instincts took over they won the round.

I feel like if the team, rather than falling back, dig into a site they will have a way better success for post plants. They have the skill to hold it, have the confidence to hold the site and take those fights. From 50/50 to 70/30

2. Site holds
   I think that the team needs to play deeper site on defense, hold tighter angles, and rely less on retakes and more on-site holds. Even in slow rounds, the players seem to play very back letting the post-plant get down. With the comps they run, they don't have a lot of retake utility to justify the reliance on retakes. Even if it is just one player holding site, if they go one for one or even one for two it's worth it. They have a top 3 worldwide sentinel player let him go nuts.

It's undeniably risky for deep site holds, but it's a better risk than going unadvantaged into a post-plant retake. Play deep, be confident, but not to overzealous.

3. Over extensions and peaking in weird moments
   This team is for the most part good with this, they are very patient players but recently on some of the rounds weird pushes and decisions are made that lead to first blood going heavily in favor of the opponents. It seems like one round you'll have a laid-back defense and then another where individual players will charge ahead without much information and give an advantage away super quickly.

Taking space is important but not when there's nothing to back the player up, this team was fabled as the best defensive team in the world for a long time. Mostly for their ability to hold and take space at the right time. Now it seems like they don't want to hold sites or properly take space. Let them come, be patient, rely on the skill you have, and force the opponent to come to you rather than seek them out. I would be much less confident charging into a site with nAts and sheydos holding it down with support from teammates than charging into a site with maybe one player and a stretched-out front of players.

4. Roles
   I'm not too good with role knowledge but I'll still share what I think just cause i guess. For some of the maps, the roles are fine. Don't switch the Breeze comp at all for example. However, I think for other maps there need to be some smaller role changes for a few other maps. Maybe for fracture switch nAts onto chamber, it allows for that aggression they play with, with a far better escape route. Keep giving nAts viper and sentinels, they already phased this out but don't give him roles like Omen. For icebox, bring back the sheydos sage, he is so fucking good on sage its incredible. Replace the Brim with something more util heavy, hell double initiator with Fade or switch over the Kayo.

I'm not going too into detail cause again im not too verse but imo just give the players their comfort picks to the extent you can and they will perform

These are my thoughts lmk what you think

If this somehow in some universe reaches the eyes of any M3C players, I fucking love you guys, you're incredible I know you'll bounce back. Keep on fighting

U gotta be writing this since M3C lost the first map....well anyways W man

Happy for you, or sorry that happened

man write a essay because his favorite team lose lmao

👍👍👍👍👍 m3c got the most dedicated fans. Nice post bro

I´m not gonna read all of this mf but n1

Happy for you, or sorry that happened

A post suggesting changes for a team that doesnt involve a roster change? Am I still on vlr.gg?

I agree and I hope with a second coach who is more active on social platform we can hope they see this as I believe every individual players on M3C is outstanding but the combination of timing and blending all the skill set of the players together is not catching up with how fast teams are improving

They're not gonna stick together after LCQ

nats, sheydos, chronicle into tier1 EMEA franchised orgs
d3ffo, redgar to eternal tier2 hell

That's how it's gonna be unfortunately

That's a lotta words
Too bad I'm not readin' em

I think m3c is struggling too much on their mid rounding and they doubting themselves on their attack executes. They're not able to adapt when something bad happens like they lose a player and their strats are in shambles then they're less confident on what to do.

I just feel that m3c have become passive compared to more aggressive style which suited them better for example sheydos taking space as a sage with an operator and walling himself up. I just haven't seen that this masters and if they want to stay together as a team they have to fix their issues before copenhagen as franchising is starting soon.

i think if they just fix their roles they will be good again , the post plants were just well played by liquid today other than that gambit have good post plant.
d3ffo clearly isnt finding the impact on chamber like chronicle on does , they need to put d3ffo on raze , neon and jett and let him fill the other times.
and try more new comps , they were one of the first few teams to play neon on split and never played it again

just kick d3ffo out and get anyone who's a jett main on immortal rank. ez fix.

common Dokka W

they are def not the best breeze team in the world anymore. tbh they just don't look as coordinated as before, i think the recent meta changes hit them hard. oh well. nice post btw.

a fix would have been possible wit ha wider team of analysts, coach and assistant coach. but since they're not a part of gambit anymore they can't afford hiring anyone else... maybe if they get picked up by another org from central europe they might get their shit right, also we can't deny that deffo is not doing a great job as a duelist even though he has the potential to.

Another thing, I believe ENGH isn't coaching for them anymore, which could be a huge factor as to why they arent performing

In the same boat as you, watched them beat TL way back in the qualifiers for Masters Berlin and watched all their games since and it sucks seeing them slump this split. Always gonna believe they have potential and will bounce back but I think you brought up some good points and role changes are a massive one; love all the players and wouldn't ever want someone to be dropped but they really need something refreshing and new (Or need to somehow magically fix everything) and role changes are the simplest way imo. If they don't make playoffs/m2 they have a massive amount of time to prepare for LCQ and I can only hope they reinvent themselves in that time and come back stronger 💪

Not to mention the stress they're probably under not helping, they've been kinda fucked this split, due to no fault of their own ofc !
*Also I think they lost their analyst (?) due to the whole playing under a neutral name and shit, sucks.

Watching m3c play like this is just sad

Mucho texto

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Hope they can back stronger

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For me its looks like M3C just don't expect for some reason that enemies will try to antistrat them.
Every M3C game analyzed by their enemies very hard under microscope (Everyone respect M3C so much and this is the reason of hard preparations). They need FPX approach with some unexpected secret picks and rounds, not just doing same things every game and hope that its still gonna work. All eyes on them, they must change approach and that all.

Really like the way you invested so much time to analyze the team man. Much love for your dedication, we will bounce back sooner or later NO CAP.

W post, like the analysis