owh dang. FPX still looking pretty good tho

is zixuan confirmed 5th? or just a stand in

still some time to go until the actual season starts, so I'm not VERY worried rn. No need to get so reactionary. VLR tho, they love shitting on drx so imma just not care.

he only played a small number of games "online"

still have 2 more months until the actual season starts, worrying now is kinda meaningless.

i still got the see t3xture 3k to close out the game, all good king.

i doubt that, munchkin was dropping these numbers last year as an igl so I'm not surprised. If anything, yoman might be co-igl OR 2nd caller but I doubt GENG changes their igl choice

#57

vlr's start time was 1 hour later than the actual start time. its fixed now tho

the entire team was a weak link for T1 in 2023 ngl. Sometimes saya was just doing 1v9.

tbh most people support the team more than the players. the actual fans of the team. can't really say you 'root' for a team when u are just ready to hop onto a different team.

tbh i dont think they are "washed" or bad bad now, but that roster change was so much needed. I've been watching them since the first strike but damn some fresh start was needed after 2023 man. sadge. I read the entire shit and honestly, you got some good points man

fpx still has the 4 players from last year no?

i mean its an off-season tournament + GENG and DRX has new line up, so all of us are just excited to watch the new players.

Idk which SOOP you are talking about, but I love the fact that the Korean one is now more like twitch in terms of layout

Red oni phantom/Blue or yellow prime vandal

sometimes they work in subway stations, other times they work in aged care and stuff if I'm not mistaken.

hes been on the wait list for like 3 years, so they just exempted him

nah there are different ways people serve military. Those who are deemed not fit enough due to injuries and stuff do national service like how k1ng does. Its not part of the military but more public areas

DRX/NAVI deciding the 3rd placed team by rock paper scissors just shows that it was the most "fun" tournament. 32 team international event is something we wont get to see again in the near future :(

True. At the end of the day, without money none of this vct can happen.
+i just realised that some of the 'fans' don't even watch tier 2, and only come out of the cave to complain.

I heckin' loved Lock//In

https://x.com/fistbump_news/status/1849012920375754937?t=Mk_7p9eFffhDlSOSD0k6hA&s=19

DFM, ZETA, FNC, LEV for ONE invitational

yea i get that, but i was talking more about the fan's pov. Surely the deal with SOOP was a plus factor for riot but its a bit of a let down for the fans. If I'm being objective here, I would just say the fans should just go to SOOP and watch, it don't even take that long. But the social media accounts of SEA countries are not doing anything except TH, so I guess the fault is pretty much shared

RIOT could change their stuff next year (I mean, they have to after this nonsense they are doing). Hopefully they get the idea of how braindead this decision was and go back to the OG format for SEA, or at least make them stream in various platform (yt, twitch, etc) because the SOOP they are streaming ain't even the SOOP koreans use and foreigners don't even know the existence of the international version of SOOP

tldr: RIOT better fix their shit for next year.

how do i wash my eyeballs. In fact, i want to burn em after seeing this list

nah ive seen enough comebacks. The tilt and all is not the problem since 2022 champs. Mostly it was 1.relatively weak bo5/map pool for bo5, 2. Was a bit slow in terms of catching up to meta, 3. burnout issue (for GENG 2024 champs. I think munchkin said that they couldn't rest for a single week since the start of the season when they made 5 GF).
For teams like T1 and GENG (2023), their roster with six men rotation and managing was total bs. Hopefully autumn can fix their shit, and I'm not worried about GENG no more

they just want to act like they are a know it all by hating on someone, hopping on the train for god knows why

Nein.

man said power struggle. It'll most probably be Munchkin as the main igl, and yoman as the secondary caller. Its something they can experiment in the off-season tho, so I'm kinda excited for GENG

SEA better get them social media online too. Like wdym only TH are active. For the streaming, I doubt they'll make SOOP only for 2025 season since no one thinks its a good idea. Come on jake, lock the fck in.

I think he can be better than he ever was in 2025 purely due to munchkin's igling and hsk/solo's coaching. Excited to see what he can bring in 2025.

yea hes probably finishing his national service next year. He'll be the biggest fish in the F/A market when he comes back tho, since zest is taking a break

this is why you dont trust rumours. its fake asf.

i doubt the SPG players would move teams, at least not for 2025 season.

there are a lot of jokes/baits like this in vlr, time to get used to it buddy.

😭😭😭

yoman did us dirty here i never thought he would leave after renewing the contract 😭😭😭

might take a break and focus no his wrist

"perfecting sage" isnt going to solve anything if I'm being honest. davai played better sage anyway. he has no excuse if he underperforms again in 2025

He is the igl so you cant really expect him to have amazing stats. He brought NS who was lowkey having a hard time to challengers grand final, only to lose to SPG 3-2, and was the igl when RA was beating everyone except EDG with stew. Hes a good player.

i think like 5 other ppl said this too but meteor wanted to leave and there's nothing GENG could have done so how is that a fumble

you are so real for this

fair enough tbh. I dont see DRX being 'downgraded' in terms of talent. Like sure we have to see it in the main season in 2025 but I feel like most people shitting on DRX aren't even a fan to begin with.

I swear there are so many people here taking a shot at foxy9 acting like they even cared to watch DRX. After GENG and SPG's win there are way too many bandwagons here man.

GENG had an open trial and picked up foxy9 (if true). Surely they know better than vlr dwellers.

this is like your 2nd or 3rd post pulling up stats by ex-DRX players and saying they played badly. Just move on with your life man.

Mako
Flashback
Freeing
Hyunmin
Athan (previously Leviathan) - Not an official call up yet, but joining the team for the off-season event.

suggest has not been the same since 2021 and even he said that he needs to start playing better or like he used to back in the days. I know the title was just a bait but come on man. You can watch him next year on Challengers Korea

im not 'offended', im just baffled by you choosing to talk all this without much info. Oh so its from other people like sliggy, chobra and co? Well you acted like it was YOUR own idea lmao. Plus when it comes to apac, more specifically kr, there are interviews and news they might miss on. William gets his info too but he doesn't really share leaks and stuff. Im not hating buddy, not every argument is a hate. foxy is well regarded and went through GENGs trial so if you think he can get better, why make this thread to begin with?