prx play the way they do because of team chemistry.. multiple pros have said it. c9 did fine because of team chemistry.. runi was not a proven igl either nor was boostio at the tier 1 level. if sen just keep working together with what they have and build on the chemistry they will be better next year 1000%.. if they dont.. guarenteed they lose again and this forum will be filled with johnqt/valyn/whoever replaces marved hate threads lol

asuna definitely doesnt deserve it considering how the entire 100t squad has been changed but he somehow kept his spot despite the results.

rest of it is just you reacting based on results.. alot of good teams who have done great this year played around with roles.. i mean demon1 plays smokes aswell - if it didnt work everyone would've blasted eg for it. otherwise its masterclass. with changing metas, new agents and maps.. switching of roles is bound to happen.

PRX works without an IGL. No one would've called Boostio a franchised level IGL before the start of the year. Team chemistry >>>>> any individual role or player. That takes time to build, keep chopping and changing and you reset the process to 0

The IGL is the most important part of the core. EG had C0M, Boostio and Jawg for more than 2 years now.. LOUD has Aspas, Less and Saadhak. Fnatic kept Boaster, Derke, Alfajer. PRX just added something. NRG had the Optic core. All these teams had their IGLs playing with their cores for more than an year coming into franchising. Same goes with why Guard and M80 were good. The most important part is to keep core with IGL since they understand how he is calling, Even FNS mentioned how s0m and ardiis were struggling to adjust to his calling style on NRG which created some problems.. Plugging in johnqt or valyn, rather than letting Marved get better with the team is just resetting everything back to 0.

Guard players can win it all if they stick together while most Americas teams work on rebuilding.. it will literally be Guard and EG running it down. They have a golden opportunity. I feel everyone on there is just gonna fail if they dont, including trent

SEN fans dont understand team chemistry, you cant plug and play with players. Almost every successful team has a core which has been together for some time. Its better to give Marved and others time to build that chemistry then plug in johnqt or valyn and begin the process again. They wont stand a chance against EG, LOUD or any team which has been working together for some time.

people will say net helped with calling once valyn fails and then they will say zander helped with calling once johnqt fails..
Having a core with chemistry >>>> plugging in the best players in different roles

both of them might be proven IGLs but just because it worked with the core of The Guard and Ghost Gaming/M80 it will not translate to Sentinels... just like it didnt work with dephh. Letting Marved go is a mistake IMO.. only better replacement is Saadhak because of chemistry between Sacy and Pancada (assuming they are on the team)

who? fns? why what did he say?

out of loop lately and im not sure if this is common info but it seems Chet might be the reason for FNS leaving right? fns did mention issues in Optic core but he seems to be still friends with yay, marved.. he has praised crashies as one of the most underrated players.. and victor doesnt seem like the guy to fight

when fns says he wants to build his own team, it should mean he didnt have much of a say in NRG which was being controlled by chet. what yall think

edit : nvm they are joking around there is no rift

he just confirmed it on stream and said "yeah there was stuff but i cant talk about it.. cant be airing out shit like that on stream"

If you've watched the Optic 2022 Champs vlogs, they mention that the team did not plan to stay together after 2022 even if they made franchising. Maybe some of the old problems resurfaced this year.

i think mCE might prefer to get net from the guard if he is willing. net always wanted to be IGL and I feel mCE works better with newcomers who dont mind his malding

oh so is he willing to play ascension? cause DSG Toast said some really really good players reached out and said they have 5 players and asking for 10k each

https://www.twitch.tv/gofns

!announcement command : FNS will not be on the NRG starting roster. He will play for another org if the opportunity presents itself but if not he will focus on streaming this year.

100t, SEN both need IGLs and also C9 but I dont think he will work with MCE

yay cleared tenz in 2022 but when Demon1 peaked, yay was forced to sit out. 2024 will decide with hopefully all 3 guns blazing on good orgs/teams.

Demon1, yay, tenz, zekken, leaf, cryo all great contenders

they might aswell just sell the stickers and ask people to paste them on their clothes

i mean i dont think we will see any of them on an international stage

i see so many people talk about Demon1 being cocky and allat.. but Optic core players have been so cocky for a year, calling themselves the best in NA which was true last year but EG's performance is better than SEN 2021 and OPTIC 2022 imo simply because these 2 couldnt win Champions.

Do you think Optic players will become irrelevant if they cant produce results in 2024? Just like how OG SEN players like Shazam, Dapr, Zombs, Sinatraa have become irrelevant in 2 years?

i know as a fan i love the chaos of roster changes as it creates storylines but expecting to win big tournaments is kinda tough if a team decides to have 5 different players(superstars) without any cohesion

i really want an indoor map.. its so sunny and outdoorsy might not be good for my health. Also idk when

All the teams that did decent this year had unchanged cores - Fnatic, EG, LOUD, PRX - atleast kept 3 players from last year.

Hope teams that didnt do as well dont end up spending millions on superstars and give a chance to rookies and stick with their core teams

i know man everyone wants PRX to win.. they cannot stomach the fact that EG might be the best NA team all time

i want bias

is he supporting EG? i dont care for analysis i want him to slam his desk every round we lose

any good watchparty or streamer who is going to be openly supporting EG today? I dont want any of "chat i just want a good match, OT yada yada 5 maps yada yada bullshit" while they clap for every PRX round.. I know most NA pros (especially NRG) are jealous as fk right now so i dont want any of that stupid energy

i think this is true cause there are other streamers who are funny aswell, tarik started early and made a community out of watching VCT matches and watchparties.

yeah he can be funny and seems like a nice guy/no ego but he puts in 0 effort at this point and just collecting his paychecks

saw an article which said tarik gets more viewers than main stream

the few times i've watched him - he has no idea who is playing, who they already played, constantly being corrected by his chat, one time he said "runi is the one from collegiate team", has no attention span if it is not sentinels or a team he likes (kangkang/EDG)

some of u vlr demons prob know more than him... im genuinely curious what makes u watch him?

i hope he does and i know its not all ardiis fault but it seems like the chemistry was always on and off. Maybe Navi can benefit with ardiis too

actually heartbroken
dont even care if its reactionary just kick ardiis out, yay has the highest kpr in VCT global events even after not playing a whole year and no he is not 1 trick. i dont even wanna see ardiis play offseason..................... bring 2024 fuck this sht valorant sucks asss

been saying this and honestly dont understand why most people think any franchise org will run after these players after they dropped the ball in a tier 2 tournament. Especially the posts from SEN fans are the dumbest, given the fact they bought people who had a great 2022 for their roster 2023 - they will not even look at Tier 2 losers. NA franchise pays among the highest salaries and has the ability to poach the best from EMEA and Pacific too. Now some broke orgs like C9 might look at them but then mCE would have to agree he made a mistake with the 2 rookies which I dont think he will.

they;re making a huge "fuck spez" which i believe is multiple communities working together.. which in my opinion is cringe.

ur the reyna from my last game

all 3 brazilians can speak decent enough English to give callouts and basic comms that are required to win.. you dont need to give a speech while playing. Most EU teams give call outs in English when half the team's comfort language isnt English.

the whole "fuck spez" has to be the cringiest shit on the internet.. redditors hate the founder/ceo but cant stop using his platform

as yay said he goes for difficult shots in pro play.... as if he is streaming and entertaining his tier 3 subs. when you are playing against other pros you cant just dunk on them lol.. he needs to learn how to play disciplined but yes he has the potential to become the best (again?)

NA + most of EU teams with multiple nationalities like Fnatic, Navi, Liquid are all english speaking. I believe some APAC teams aswell such as PRX, GE

they wont pick koalanoob over a free agent yay, moreover if ardiis does decent in Champs they prob wont change any player

bruh Sentinels is not picking up M80 players especially when they couldnt even win tier 2 tournament.. only possibility is 100t johnqt

what NA franchise team has a duelist/OP role available for him to play? especially for someone who lost Tier 2 tournament

i mean except jakee.. everyone else was playing every role as if they can do that against any decent team and win. whats more unfortunate is mCE is gonna use the cinderella run in the league to somehow reinforce his ideas and lose again next year

what role issues were fixed by mCE and co by removing yay and vanity lol.. deserved.

100% and leaf is usually absent when it matters the most.. dont blame him 100% tho sometimes someone else has to pick up and no one did for c9

mCE is definitely not the scout king that his fans make him out to be.. he was lucky in the league when he was playing mid teams which were either rebuilding or had bad starts. Couldnt win when it mattered the most, and you never can with amateurs

wake up

m80 had a decent performance in a tier 2 league because they had the core players from ghost who have played together... u remove players from that core and place them in sentinels, you wont get the same results. johnqt is not a top tier sentinel, SEN issues are not communication or pancada on sentinel.. its just they need more time together to have the same chemistry as teams who have been together for a long time. Literally every team that has done decent - M80, Guard, NRG, LOUD, EG have all got their core players playing together.

Watch FNS talk about how NRG was struggling because ardiis and S0M were not used to how FNS calls, and they were working on it.

cant win a tier 2 tournament but lets replace the world champions with them. classic 10 year old sen fan

bruh u dont know the first thing about competitive play with ur stupid takes. M80 did decent in Tier2 cause of the core players from Ghost gaming who were playing together for a while. Same goes for the Guard. Literally every tier 1 team that has done decent has a core group which has played together for a while - NRG, LOUD, EG and even other regions such as Fnatic and PRX. If you were expecting SEN to beat any of these, you are delusional. They cannot do it with 2 months of prac when the other teams have been together for ages.

M80 lost a T2 event. no one on that team deserves to replace major and champion winners, if you cannot comprehend that, then anything you say is stupid.

name a single team which is winning and doesnt have a core which has played for more than 6 months.. changing and chopping players wont get you results. team is good enough and needs time together to get better.

Also picking up M80 players is braindead. They lost a tier 2 tournament, replacing them with world champions and major winners is just braindead