idk bout all that but how is chet crying about production/streamers and the community being toxic by comparing pros and making narratives.. like thats how the game always was.. he did it in that nrg video where oxy was called out.. like cant u take any heat u dish out lol?

and they lost.. i know he has had individually good games but his team always seems to fumble

when has leaf won? i know his individual performances are great but he doesnt have any real trophies either.. not to mention he has been playing for a while

after unlimited chances to play tier 1 valorant for na.. these 2 finally get another shot at an international trophy.. can they not fumble it again?

agreed. why are people saying kc as if its not n4rrate on that team

all this shit just for americas to win again lol

always had cryo in his pocket
took on less aspas sacy saadhak on same team

they couldnt beat him so they banished him

well it means pistol, eco and then bonus so yh it does mean alot.. nobody wants to be 0-3

he won them the bind map after they were 0-3.. kudos man

idk man just win.. apac can have shanghai

what is this copypasta never seen it before lol

yeah i keep hearing that and everyone agrees BUT idk if he is good enough to replace tex or even be chosen above jawgemo.. and now he took net's job/role.. what has he achieved to be given so much respect?

given how long these ex-cs pros have been given tier 1 opportunities i wonder why they dont get the same heat as someone like 100t asuna... all three have nothing to show for and now again one of c9 and g2 will crash out.

wym cloud9 winning had no affect on sentinels? g2 has to win 14 rounds for sen to not qualify

he dont owe anything to chet.. chet didnt win anything without fns.. his performance on tsm was mid before fns

lets be real.. even though he says he MIGHT be back next year.. he is making too much money with 20k+ viewers with his watchparties + there is no guarentee he can "save" optic core or even win anything if he comes back.. there is alot of rng with what teams will find the right chemistry to win a trophy so why risk it at 32 years of age..

s0m on the other hand should probably look to play considering he never really won anything + only in his 20s (like tenz)

mce the guy who dropped yay.. the optic core will never work with him lol.. also crashies + victor is a duo and so is s0m+fns.. AND fns wont be back to save anyone.. with 20k+ viewers on his watchparties he is making more money in a day then a month of practicing and playing pro only to lose to a random team because of how rng the game can be at the highest level

monkey noises if made confirms racism.. in that case the punishment should've been stricter for sure. also it seems there is a concept of community boycott - players like pancc or even sinatraa although not banned.. will never play for a franchised squad because of community backlash.. if that is what you are aiming towards with this thread -- i do agree that there cannot be different standards between different alleged crimes..

i think keznit will have to live with those stains his entire career which is probably a punishment in itself.. i know he wont be able to face brazillian crowd or even have any respect from some BR players like Less

i think ethan and crashies have some role clashes.. i've never seen ethan on omen before. marved has been underperforming alot.. also the map pool currently is very raze centric which means demon1 has to play other agents which he was able to do on eg but idk anymore on nrg..

overall the team chem is off.. maybe too many voices + overcooking. also nrg last year + eg last year had very different playstyles so they are clashing aswell..

lesson learnt : taking 5 champs and slapping them together doesnt mean results.. i think sentinels already proved that last year and nrg this year... a good mix of young talent + experience is required.

imma keep it real buddy c9 aint beating g2.. or even sen if they can make it

me im actually down to give it to apac honestly.. we win champs ofc

LEV KRU LOUD... possible? i dont know but i dont really trust 100t or C9.. or even G2 if they lose to LOUD tomorrow given how leaf just crumbles in playoffs

that doesnt seem to be the way riot is treating other agents so why omen.. i personally think his abilities are little too strong which cannot be competed against with the current set of abilities of the other controllers

any non-duelist/support agent will be rated highly based on flash + molly abilities.. other controllers dont have these abilities which compete with omen's flash.. brim has a molly but tbh its pretty trash and only works on some maps (bind) to an extent

thats what im saying.. also unavoidable flashes bro is too good

top 3 agent pickrate across regions.. how did this agent get a buff? also played a decent amount in ranked

100t play loud/eg in single elim.. they will crash out

how about a oily orgy 4sum instead 🥰🥰🥰

as fns said aspas always been the second best every year which is how he keeps that spot

whatever they do never enough to please 100% of the people

1. there is no material evidence of yay's alleged bribing.
2. idk why all of you sen flairs are so hell bent on moving the narrative towards hate from the community.. sure every other pro gets obliterated on twitter/reddit/vlr based on a single bad performance on a single half of a map and the hate might be proportional to the popularity of the pro BUT an actual support system is more than just twitter/reddit/vlr posts.. its the fact that some pros continue to find opportunities to prove themselves while others not so much.. case in point - i can bet if jawgemo's team does not win for another 2 years he may not find a team, much less a team built around him for his success.

ya and niether did tenz have to jump from tier 3 players to apac ascension winners thats kinda pretty important aswell..

entire champ winning EG team had to split up because of EG being a shit org - that in itself is an example of how those pros have to suffer this year because of a lack of support system. imagine if they won the title on SEN - would they split up? just an example. sen didnt play a single international lan for 2 years and every pro gets fired on that team but 1.. u cannot convince me that tenz has an incomparable support system which other dont.. even his ex-teammates like shahzam and dapr and zombs have spoken about this. pancada i bet would have something to say about it aswell

celebrity worship is a disease but all good

you say that as if tenz is the only champ player who does that.. again im not even discounting his contribution but pointing out the fact that others dont enjoy the same privileges that tenz does even if they have achieved similar success.

i mean i've seen people bring up his fiance's health situation or his own to defend his performances on this forum but the same consideration is never afforded to other pros

hard to quantify who is getting more hate but my point is other pros dont find the same support so they might actually never make a comeback. bro literally got unlimited chances which is redeemed again after madrid

its 4 sentences tiktok brain

im happy dude won another major but looking at the state of other prev NA champions and how they are being treated on poor performances.. gotta say tenz is the luckiest to have the support system in sentinels and fans in general.. i remember in 2022 when his team was dogshit and there was a match where a skye dog had the same kills as him.. sure he got shit on by a few but sentinels immediately picked up champs to surround him in 23 and then again in 24.. like i dont see demon1 or anyone else being this lucky.. they cannot afford to have poor performances for 2 years

was always decent-ish player + good support on a team with insane chemistry last year.. mid IGL

its impossible to know everyone's personal situation, if we take that into account this website will be dead since no one to troll

post is about na yet a navi flair slithers in his way

i like johnqt but it probably still is fns.. i mean the only time optic core did not make an international lan was madrid (since 2022). his team always found a way

i dont think there is any doubt americas is the most dominating region.. i just wanna give apac 1 win cause we took 2 back to back from them

well 100t lost to sen and still have nrg and kru to play so idk about them yet.. kru looks good for sure and lev looks decent but idk if they can keep it up to win all the way

na i dont fk with emea.. this website becomes unbearable if they win.. u can have a masters.. take it or leave it. china takes it if u leave it

also let new players rep americas - 100t, kru, lev

none of the americas team look really strong... im down to root for apac to win their first international trophy.. we come back and take the champs

thats understandable ur mad cause he prolly owned ur favorite player while on optic

where is the proof if it was actual bribery or someone frustrated and saying they will pay thousands of dollars to get rid of someone.. context/tone matter.. bro provided 1 screenshot of random discord message with no concrete proof. you will automatically assume yay is on the wrong there if you hate him for no reason.. which i hope majority of pro players dont do

"guys come on we NEED to call our mollies" is that toxic and bad behaviour? asking all the pookies who think yay was toxic in genghstas braindead clip?