title read as creep.. now george geddes is here

how are these kids from G2 like oxy and wippie getting a chance before M80 to play in franchise.. makes absolutely no sense

i really dont get why so many people want to know about leaks/rosters so badly.. just wait for the announcements when they happen. literally most pros are farming impressions on twitter and we have to deal with these loser journalists because of this pathetic behavior of the fans of the game.. if people stop feeding these journalists, they wouldnt act the way they do

the video tells us that Zellsis, leaf, qpert left kinda on their own. leaf most likely has an org waiting to sign (G2?).. but mCE and runi were definitely fired/left on some unpleasant terms

simps

given how he beat sentinels twice this year, being a sub is below him

1 episode is like 20 minutes so not even bad?

hunter x hunter

probably a good team but that doesnt say much since their comparison will be made on the basis of them winning matches.. and winning matches against stacked teams with cores that have played together and won together for some time like those of LOUD, EG, NRG, G2/LOUD is going to be tough.

hope so, just listing excuses so once the sen flairs make them on vlr i can link this thread and gain some pathetic gotcha points on vlr like a gremlin

most of Americas teams will be STACKED. you cant expect to walk over teams with cores who have been together for a long time like LOUD, G2/Guard, EG, NRG. Sentinels most likely wont make it to Madrid if its just Top 2. Cutting coaches and players only puts them back, they need to give these players some time..

more like average SEN fan hater. i really want johnqt to do well and succeed, its idiotic fanbase doesnt let anyone settle down. I am just noting down all the excuses yall will make after giving him a hot 3 matches. Dephh hate wasn;t from Day 1, he was literally IGL of the second best NA team from 2022. I dont care what excuse you have for him now.

Anyway its going to be tough to show results for Sentinels right off the bat, especially when they will facing opponents with core teams who have been together for a long time like LOUD, NRG, EG, G2/Guard.

I typed all the excuses right now so I can link it when all SEN fans will be making them as a case to cut players.

whoever had the highest rating on M80

will proceed to lose the first 3 matches in the league

• tenZ will remain protected by his cult fanbase
• zekken will prolly top frag so he remains protected
• sacy and pancada will be backed by their brazilian fanbase, even if cut they find a place in any BR org

johnqt and Kaplan will be thrown under the bus.

• "johnqt was never the only IGL on m80.. zander helped him like ayrin did for dephh"
• "johnqt's m80 ratings will be brought up.. he only won cause of xyz"
• "winning in T2 is not same as winning against franchise teams"
• Kaplan nepotism will be brought up

the entire SEN ecosystem is designed to fail players

tenz is the flex duelist but the problem with the squad is raze player.. zekken is probably the best after jawgemo in NA as raze

never know, there is alot of time but yeah probably not

true but that info is before the eg news

Demon1, TenZ, Sacy, Pancada, Boostio

fuck it.. wait i like zekken tho

i think orgs can cancel the contract at any point and not pay anything else. if the player wants to move out, then the org gets paid a buyout. so eg can just cancel the contracts and offer new ones with revised salaries

yeah and fuck JoshRT right? who cares if it is under him they won an actual international event

i think it wasnt JoshRT or the The Guard, but Chet who dropped the bomb on him today which made him post that tweet. There is no way Chet will go with a duelist with no international LAN experience.. no matter his potential or him being a friend

nah the role clashes are crazy.. too many KJ players, no real initiator.. Assuming FNS has been reached out to build the squad and he has zikz as the coach.
Cryo, s0m, FNS, eeiu/bcJ, Asuna (flex)
yay, s0m, FNS, eeiu/BCJ, Asuna -- incase they rid of Cryo
more explosive : yay, s0m, FNS, trent, Asuna -- if they can poach from G2

he can play tier 2 and comeback if he wants.. time for others to get a chance

I dont see zikz keeping MikesHD as the assistant coach unless they know each other pretty well. He will get his own staff.

do u know if orgs are allowed to just release players? idk how these contracts work

100t is the only org which can let FNS make the roster in NA.. who in 100t has a contract for next year? they might be the only ones staying

Hopefully he can work with FNS to build the team

i am actually sorry to assume the braindead kids on this forum can read, let alone how taxes work. Like i literally said BEFORE taxes.. 66k per annum would be after taxes.

yes it is..? "5.5k per month is the league minimum which is like 90k per annum before taxes" i literally said BEFORE taxes. one needs to be blind or straight cant read. unless ur dumb enough to think i miscalculated 5.5 x 12

or u could just ask a pro on stream who can verify it.. dumbass

yeah bro ill take ur word over what a pro said on stream.. dumbass.. vlr literally filled with dumbass kids arguing to argue.. nothing to do with what the post means to say

bro are u actually braindead or what.. 5.5k per annum after taxes is 66k per annum after taxes.. should be around 90k before taxes. Can you read?

bro are u dumb? 5.5k is after taxes

I've asked pro streamers who have confirmed it is 5.5k per month after taxes. i dont have a clip or i would've shared.

that report wherever you copied it from is incorrect.. just go to any pro streamer and ask them. League minimum is 5.5k per month after taxes. Should be around 90k per annum before taxes. My response is correct, the numbers are higher than the minimum wage decided by the govt. What one needs to make to live "comfortably" could vary and those numbers can be made up.. doesnt have anything to do with minimum wage.

u obviously cant read so i assume u have no idea how taxes work.. i literally said before taxes

minimum what? Minimum wage in LA is $16.90 per hour.. which for 40hour weeks comes upto 2.7k per month.
Franchised league minimum is 5.5k per month.. which is literally twice the minimum wage. Assuming 5.5k per month is after taxes.. it comes upto around 90k per annum before taxes and 66k after taxes.

yeah people just assume cause they see c9 trialing with t2 players, they must be out of cash

its not minimum wage.. 5.5k per month is the league minimum which is like 90k per annum before taxes. That is not the minimum wage, even in LA. Plus they get free food and live in the c9 house for free.. anybody would snatch up that job if it means a franchised spot.

doesnt make any sense.. any player would take a salary cut if it means they get to play in franchised league.. no one is in a position to be demanding salaries when there are so little spots and so much talent

shahz already said on stream if he is on g2 he will be content creator

100t just reach out to FNS and ask him to rebuild.. MikesHD has to leave. I think they havent trialed because the coach is waiting to be sacked.

assuming valyn and net both leave... g2 - fns(igl/sentinel), s0m (smokes), trent, tex and jonahp.. not too bad? if they dont have to keep 3 for core.. tex <-> yay

obviously no place for shazam

I like how u conveniently ignored the bcj example because it doesnt fit your narrative. As i said, the reason doesnt really matter in case of yay/vanity, the point is even if tenz had a situation with the management.. it will be the management who will be shown the door and such a decision will be accepted by the cult.

forget tier 2 players.. i already know what johnqt will go through if he were to accept the position (not that he is a tier2 level player).. xset was literally the second best NA team from 2022, and their head coach got how many matches to prove himself in the league with sentinels? how many international lans qualified after he left? why no sen fans questioning if that decision was accurate? would we expect the same reaction if hypothetically tenz was the one who was let go and still they fail to qualify... if u fail to see there is a double standard.. i dont really have anything to say to u..

its never his fault, everyone around him fails.. blah blah.. bro is literally invincible with the support from his cult.. anyway i dont hate the guy, just hope others get half the recognition

confusing scrims with player trials i see... I've heard too many pros calling teams out for their performance in scrims vs real matches.. and its almost always a backhanded comment. FNS for example, once said TSM's seven and GMD are dropping 40+ in scrims but they go silent in matches as they watch partied them loosing.. everyone laughed and said "thats fucked".. Ofcourse I cannot derive Boaster's intentions behind him saying tenz is dropping 30+ in scrims - it could be a joke or maybe he is serious... but to make an attempt to bring scrim results where we neither see the score to verify or have any knowledge behind how the scrims were planned as a metric to somehow cover up tenz's match performances is pathetic to say the least.

bcj got 2 games in the league after coming into 2023 as one of the highest rated initiators. yay and vanity couldnt play a single game in the league.. now you may argue their reasons to be removed but it doesnt matter when you are not even willing to look at tenz/asuna's reasons to be replaced.. almost every SEN member from the 2021 squad that won the major has directly and indirectly said that tenz and the others have not been measured with the same scale by the org and the cult fans.

we may be heading into 2024 with the likes of FNS and S0M as free agents and as u admitted someone from t2 getting a shot is almost impossible and designed to fail. there is no way u can convince me that tenz who has won a trophy 2 years ago and asuna whose best is a redbull trophy are to be kept until they decide to hang their booths and tell me you are not one of the cult fans.. who as i argued first - is the only reason for keeping him there.

Any comment made on good scrim performances is usually a backhanded compliment.. its like saying someone is a ranked demon lol. Not everyone plays to win scrims. Moreover Boaster has also said they are not afraid of duelists like Tenz anymore since everyone knows how to counter them.

Anyway, my point is the very fact you are willing to consider his lack of confidence or the fact he changes sens AND keep giving him chances in an environment where the lack of talent is not a problem is biased in itself. Take Demon1 for example, the guy had probably 2-3 games to prove himself in the Americas league before he was replaced by someone else on the reserve team. That is the level of scrutiny that other players in NA are going through right now, and if people are not willing to raise fingers at Tenz or 100t Asuna, i think we are allowed to atleast call out the double standards.

tons of players in tier2 trenches who have as much potential if not more. none of them will be given a chance before tenz because he brings the casual, non-serious viewers and "hype" with his clout.. which means more money for everyone involved.

if there is one person out of the 30 slots in NA who is sure to play in franchising, it is him. nothing to do with skill, talent or promise of winning, its just his stocks are high because of his fanbase. he can play in whatever org he wants to, SEN knows this so they will never let him go.
also they are not running out of money

"broken" chamber meta, not jett, just a glance and i find one.. u could dig up more if u keep going : https://www.vlr.gg/159759/stealing-lunch-money-vs-sqn-2-0-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2022-november-playoffs-qf/?game=all&tab=overview