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who do u think shouldnt be on the list, ill debate

they seem nice bro

1. Alfajer
2. yay
3. c0m
4. Lakia
5. kiNgg
6. pANcada
7. Monyet

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Praying for Liquid's downfall

If they threat to kill themselves if you don't give it to them, yes

cp = child pornography
nudes = pornography
nudes of a 14 yo = child pornography

Riot when you leak scrims from the beta: banned for 6 months
Riot when you are racist and ask for cp: welcome to team liquid
Riot when you beat your wife: play ascension all you want!

Doesn't look good

FUT would. They are the only team from EMEA that is completely based in one country

I mean, as much as I'd love to have a world cup

Team USA, Turkiye, or Korea would just demolish the competition

I think it's more competitive and entertaining if is region based

and john is 26?

Like... Not having an actual IGL?

I'm a KOI hater and did this list in under 5 minutes

And I don't necessarily think that Flyuh is worse than ANGE1, but rather how I think they will perform in 2025

NRG did the same

Idk what if wo0t fucking dies tomorrow, there won't be any prime to predict

Same goes with early retirement

The prime is an imaginary concept that people invented to decide what was a player's peak to date

if kicks stays, vit lacks the presence of an actual igl, so that makes vit go from top 2 to top 5 imo

Your prime is either on the present or the past, you can't predict your prime in the future

Is not like this ranking is based of the player's prime anyway

Every player from C to A is good

I just think that he won't be better than any of them through 2025

He can be an insane duelist, there's no doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be the best duelist in EMEA

I have to see him play, most of KOI players performed well after their year was already over

I can't trust him enough to put him at B

Can't put him directly at A

I don't think that performing well in tier 2 makes you a good tier 1 player

Only exception is Kaajak, because he demolished tier 2

2. Team Vitality (with ceNder)
3. Team Vitality (with Kicks)

that's why they were the best tier2 team

I think that prime Wo0t>>>>>prime marteen

But I think that marteen will peform better through the year and Wo0t will not be has insane has he was this year (which happens to most players)

I don't think they're that far, but Marteen will 100% be more impactful only for the fact that he's a duelist

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Sheydos

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Xeus is pretty much locked in with FUT

Unless cNed relegates to a sub, or goes to Apeks/BBL, I don't think he will be playing next year

For that I have to believe that they are better/are at the same level than the players at b tier, which I don't think is the case for any of them

Not much of how good I think they are, but rather how I think they will perform individually through the year

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chron (flex igl)
alfajer (duelist)
leo (init/scan)
kaajak (controller)
sayonara (senti)

2023 m80

👅freaky paTiTek: https://imgur.com/a/zf9DSVg

Did he look like he could come back?

How well did he do? Couldn't watch the game

I didn't say I was happy this is Boaster's last year lol

I was saying that I will enjoy it regardless because you never know when he's going to retire

I didn't say anything about Chron tf

Koala plays Raze

I'm pretty sure he will play whatever Happy wants him to play

You can run Raze on Sunset for example (like Heretics)

I'd imagine that Koala will have to learn the Neon (if Happy wants him to play Neon,) or make Hiro play it

But who knows, maybe Neon becomes useless by 2025 if Riot decides to nerf her

He does play Raze. And koala either: learns how to play Neon, or hiro plays Neon

MIBR is in tier 1, do they deserve it?

M80 has been better than most "tier 1" teams since they exist

EMEA coaches. Coaches from other regions would prefer koala

Made a deep run in 2022 Challengers
Won NA's regional league three times
Placed 2nd in Ascension two times
Guy been playing since day one of the game

That was Happy

None of these options are better or as experienced as koala. Only one I could see being better than him is xeus

He can 100% be a top 4-5 duelist in the right circumstanses

And Happy is the only coach that understands him

Why is there so many?

I thought this guy was great during the year

And he made a solid performance in Ascension

The fuck did I say that is wrong

yo did you guys hear anything?