He took the role that was assigned to him, if he doesn't want to play that role he can leave and join another team, if he plays that role and doesn't do good on it then expect changes to happen.

LOUD did the right thing, they lost to fucking 2g and haven't won this split changes needed to be made if they want to get into playoffs.

+chet

More like signing semon1 and ethan, marved was a decent pickup but with cantplayraze1 and noiglethan they couldn't do anything.

If haodong was still on the team they wouldn't even have been in the GF, no disrespect to my goat tho. There would be no team to break LEV in the upper finals so no TH ain't winning that.

Pretty sure they just want bao to be perma smokes and then have victor on perma sentinel + maybe double duelist, its much better than switching between roles for bao and bdog.

bro is singaporean, a sentinel main, and a free agent rn, how tf has prx not picked him up and dropped j0ngg????

Have you seen ange1's stats?

This is the same thing as saying
-NcSlasher
-Shiro
when boom lost to SPG

and then ZesBeeW is just governor you can remove him

Benkai would never have an average acs of 140 or lower

Basically half of the people on this list played in Brazil what are you on, plus based off what you said how come Khalil, Melser, and Tuyz aren't higher on the list?

You do realize that basically everyone on this list has been playing pre franchising

holy shit I just looked at his stats and his stats are similar to ange1's 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Liquid at the beginning of kickoff got destroyed by FUT then later on they destroyed FUT, TL was not as developed then.

Victor back in 2024 had crazy performances too on NRG yet all I've heard about him was that he was horrible and a weak link on NRG unlike flor who when she does bad will not get shit on unlike other players.

The thing is that TenZ and Yay both had stats and utter dominance years prior to back them up, flor doesn't exactly have anything yet people are still hyping her up to the same level.

Reloading the video page on youtube would get more views than this

Lowk the majority of people who are hating on vlr about flor is all caused by the flor fans themselves. Sure if you want to support flor I don't care if you do and I encourage you to do so if you like them, but if you're going to go out of your way and say "oh flor is going to shit on teams if they get onto a tier 1 team" or "flor is better than x player" then no shit people are going to hate them more. I remember back in 2023/2024 where flor fans were just blowing them out of proportional in terms of hype, ofc if they don't do good/don't win now then people are going to hate.

Alongside the kpopification of vlr where anything that isn't talking good about flor is immediately seen as "hate" to flor, I know there are some degens on this website that hate flor just because of who they are but flor fans caused most of this shit. Don't complain about what is happening now when flor fans were the people who hyped them up out of proportion and hating on other people's favorite players/teams just because they were "supporting" flor.

If you're only going to be looking at kills then you're just another brainless flor fan lmao.

Molsi is the IGL and yet he's still at the top of leaderboard WITH an amazing amount of assists mind you, without those assists then flor wouldn't be getting half the kills they would have gotten in both games.

Looking at the TH game molsi and avova got a total of 57 assists and yet they are still the highest performing players on the leaderboard as well.

Looking even deeper into the navi game you can see on first map where batujnax is 4-0 on first bloods as a lurk which means he is literally opening the game for apeks and giving them the first pick to go wherever they want (which usually led them to winning the round). Flor performed well the second half and the others average but only so much you can do on a support without a sentinel. Alongside that molsi is once again 2nd on the leaderboard despite once again being the IGL and a support player too with 30 assists which is usually eaten up by flor anyways.

Now I don't disagree with you that governor is just shit

That's not my point lmao, I'm saying that when her team actually does good and she doesn't there's no talk about her having no teammates? but whenever she does good she's apparently the best in the world with no teammates after farming ange1.

Idk where you got kickoff from not even talking about that

The TH game and the navi game were not even in kickoff what are you on

When avova and molsi play pretty good against TH despite being on support and flor doing pretty horrible
flor fans: 😶(only talk to defend flor's performance and not even saying anything good about the other two's performance)

When flor performs a life match against a mid ass team that hasn't won in over 9 months (she farmed off ange1 lol and btw molsi and batujnax still did good)
flor fans: FLOR HAS NO TEAM WHEN WILL APEKS GET GOOD PLAYERS

double standards man

No the thread wasn't even supposed to be a racist lmao, I was just on one thread correcting someone on the meaning of "star player" then I got hit with a trojan house that coincidentally was based in india after I said ArterieX was a dumbass

For some reason ArterieX came over and started being racist and the people he was arguing with came over as well and said he was racist

BOOM 2-0 PRX

Pretty sure you're getting the term "star player" mixed up, a "star player" typically refers to a player who stands out due to their exceptional skills, impact on the game, and positive contributions to the community, often recognized and rewarded for their efforts. Meiy's skill and impact on the game far exceeds that of Akame and Jinboong, any game that DFM even had a chance in or won this year was because Meiy was the top of the leaderboard.

PRX fracture is literally just one player going nuclear or just j0ngg actually playing the game

Alright before anyways says it I'm not racist. Anyways why does net and vic just look like oxy bro everytime I see their cameras its looks like there's three fucking oxy's in the game, are we sure c9 didn't learn how to clone little bro because c9 looking a bit too good rn.

Only thing with TL is that its a really good team on paper, outside of kamo who was questionable they have people who were considered some of the best players they could've picked up. They just underperformed at first but then bounced back hard.

If I paid a chef to cook my food it better not be overcooked

To be fair not that many kills you can get while aspas is +14 and then they got brutally harassed the second half, you completely ignored saadhak picking raze on fracture going -15 but ofc he's your goat igl.

Probably not, LOUD this year is just known for throwing games. They can probably do a lot better now tho.

Lev is only bad because they dropped aspas and mazino for some bums, prx has always been ass after 2023 and will continue to be ass until they make roster changes.

Because league is completely different from val??? you have completely different roles, top bottom mid lanes + jungle is basically the equivalent of 4 duelists/3 duelists + a lurk and then you have one support in league usually.

Now imagine that in valorant, every player needs to be good at getting kills if you just had 4 cracked duelists and then one support lmao.

You can't curse a team if they are already shit

f0rsaken is good but he's actually just a regional farmer, 3rd on his team at LA and 4th on his team at Copenhagen, bottom of the leaderboard in Copenhagen grand final and 4th on the leaderboard at LA grand final. He locks in and EG game would've been much closer/they could've won and they would've won against FPX at Copenhagen.

Edit: nvm bro isn't even carrying in regional play in previous years either lmao this is just glaze

https://www.vlr.gg/459828/team-heretics-vs-apeks-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w1
https://www.vlr.gg/429401/team-heretics-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/429389/team-vitality-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2025-emea-kickoff-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/378836/leviat-n-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/378835/team-heretics-vs-sentinels-valorant-champions-2024-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/378833/team-heretics-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2024-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/371284/team-heretics-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/353161/team-heretics-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/353155/team-heretics-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-w1
https://www.vlr.gg/348476/gen-g-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-gf

I guess that means by your logic benjy is also

always bot frag and complete useless 85% of his whole career

And also

Since 2022-2025 he's always bot fragging or playing horribly

Go ahead

I could also find 10+ games of Benjy bottom fragging does that mean he's a bad player/getting carried?

Also its 2/5 of the roster just wanted to say.

What has anyone on C9 accomplished at the tier 1 level? 0 LANs except for Lock//IN lmao

Because 2G had to make roster changes since their ascension winning roster couldn't fully attend which led to them changing the roster? what kind of retarded ass comeback is that lmao

c0m was tied for third on EG at champs, third on his team at tokyo (better than Jawg), and was third on his team at 2024 champs (better than Mazino)?

The same ascension trophy that 3/5 members of your team failed to get

https://www.vlr.gg/248276/paper-rex-vs-evil-geniuses-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-uf
https://www.vlr.gg/248275/drx-vs-evil-geniuses-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/378824/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-valorant-champions-2024-ubqf
https://www.vlr.gg/371271/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-gf

?

2G at least lifted a trophy, what has C9 lifted again?

nAts was the bottom of his team at regionals? rest of the team did fall off in Bangkok but you're bringing 3 new players into a LAn.

That's from last year + they just added s1mon?

https://www.vlr.gg/430858/dragon-ranger-gaming-vs-edward-gaming-champions-tour-2025-china-kickoff-lr4/?game=all&tab=overview

From previous years too
https://www.vlr.gg/342362/edward-gaming-vs-dragon-ranger-gaming-champions-tour-2024-china-stage-1-lf/?game=all&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/342359/edward-gaming-vs-dragon-ranger-gaming-champions-tour-2024-china-stage-1-ubsf

Just get j0ngg of this team bro

nAts is on a mid team that destroyed TH (previous #1 in EMEA), brought vitality to map 5, and got to an international LAN when people didn't expect them too?

Also vookashu dropping 30 that game is like the only time he dropped 30 this year.

Leaf?
https://www.vlr.gg/449009/team-vitality-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/448597/g2-esports-vs-trace-esports-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/459526/g2-esports-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w2

Meteor playing basically only iso and sentinel is not a flex role 😭

Chichoo?
https://www.vlr.gg/449008/edward-gaming-vs-t1-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/449001/edward-gaming-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-r2-1-0
https://www.vlr.gg/448598/edward-gaming-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-r1

Meteor, Leaf, Chichoo?

something - jett and iso
d4v41 - tejo + flash initiator
Patmen - sentinel and raze, yoru
Forsaken - scan initiator (breach when tejo + breach comp) + secondary sentinel
Mindfreak - Main smokes

sign me up prx I'm lft I'll be your analyst

is it just me or does he look more white than he does Korean? like I first looked at him and I thought he was American