The original post buddy, is ethan officially the NA goat? literally right there in the post. Marking Ethan as the only person with 2 champs

Bringing home two champs is more than what TenZ and FNS have done combined lmao

ZETA:

SugarZ3ro - Smokes
Dep - Sentinel
Aace - Duelist
Xdll - Initiator + IGL
Hals - Flex

HC: Euler
AC: XQQ

DFM:

Meiy - Duelist
SyouTa - Smokes
JoXJo - Initiator + IGL
yatsuka - Flex
margaret/Jinboong - Sentinel

Same coaches with the addition of Vorz

True but he also retired mostly due to the fact that he had medical issues, it wouldn't be surprising after he recovered if he wanted to run it back since ending his career that way probably wouldn't be something he wants.

Unfixable

jk delighted don't jump me

xavi8k - Initiator + IGL
Invy - Flex
KellyS - Sentinel
Whitecat - Duelist
Papi - Smokes

HC: aimix

Comeback - Main Duelist
Minny - Sentinel (IGL)
DaviH - Initiator
Kamyk - Flex
Sh1n - Smokes

HC: Literally anyone but Goked, ange1 would be a better option

Primmie - Duelist
Laz - Sentinel (IGL)
Sscary - Smokes
Leviathan - Initiator
seph1roth - Flex

HC: Crws

Lemme know some teams that should be fixed and I'll try to make the most reasonable roster (sadly no +aspas to a korean team or smth like that)

Allg also because he's a baiter but it's funny to call out another 100T fan

These guys were hyped up during toronto like they were about to beat every team coming out the group stage and create a new era of valorant.

Rarga couldn't even communicate with his support player and was still popping off occasionally, Jemkin and the rest of RRQ js didn't have the experience of a LAN.

I mean he's not wrong about the benjy take but that woot take is js straight up braindead

You do realize that's why some people don't like him...

I was thinking about Iceland but yeah Madrid works too, the dude literally thought I was talking about any champs when I'm just mentioning anytime APAC had 2 team in the top 4. Reading comprehension at it's finest and good edit from him

Can we read...?

Last time APAC had 2 teams in the top 4 NA won a trophy

It's only poetic
#NRGWIN

Using one of yoru's best util in the first 5 seconds of the round is a new one

Put some respect on MIBR they are the team that gifted NA their first champs

Welcome back to

Termi makes roster changes: Termi is so shit!! fraud!!
DRX actually do decent: drx is so back!!
Repeat

I think you can guess which stage we are at right now

bro has the most amount of fks for the amount of rounds he has played and people still genuinely thinks that he baits for his stats lmao

Yeah and js ignore my other points entirely lmao, I'm bringing up the fact that anytime aspas joins will become a top 3 contender at champs no matter what, alfa is a super player but he also had Leo and Derke in 2023 and then Kaajak in 2025 alongside arguably the best IGL itw.

nobody thinks that ONLY the trophies matter. the trophies are just one out of many reasons

When people argue about is aspas or chronicle the goat people always yap about how "chronicle is better because he has won 3 times while aspas has won once" lmao.

woah. suddenly mechanics means everything now? Alfajer is the GOAT then and by MILES. Alfajer is doing what aspas does, but at more events than just champs.

Aspas has dominated way longer than alfa has lmao and has made teams better just by joining while alfa has had a superteam since the beginning of time, even then I don't mind him being at least the top 5 goat lists I'm making a point dumbass about how Chronicle glazers are js making points that only highlight one area.

Actually serious convo tho like why do people think that Chronicle is the GOAT purely off trophies alone, like Messi/Ronaldo are considered the GOATs of football because they have been the best of the best for years and are the best on their team. They will still be considered the goats even if they don't win, however when you look at Chronicle he has never been the best on his team, nAts was the best in 2021, 2022 was nonexistent, and in 2023 he wasn't even top 3 on his team. Now we get to 2025 where he's top 3 now but only because top 4 and 5 are an IGL and a full on recon dart/fade eye + secondary caller.

Now you compare this against a guy who is a literal raid boss every year he plays in, if you told anyone to peek aspas or Chronicle they would always choose Chronicle

He's already registered as AMER so he can't swap prett ysure

No one says that anymore lmao, if they do they are js baiting. Plus boaster has been popping off in some games so he’s not even dead weight anymore

Yeah... A team that placed top 3 in both kickoff and stage 1 vs a team that got to play furia + 2g...

Yeah but js imagine you use that ragebait on APAC fans they would genuinely go crazy lmao but then again you gonna get hit with like 10 death threats from them.

Tbf my mental would also be pretty cooked if I had a sickness that didn't let me play well occasionally and dropping 71 kills in a series and still losing.

Well I mean that still doesn't justify what they be saying nowadays, like the only fan base that was like them were Brazilians but that was one subregion

That's true but he isn't officially removed yet so we'll see

Pretty sure Wolves is letting him search for other options since his contract likely is gone, it is up to him if he wants to look for other teams but if he doesn't then Wolves is likely to just resign him. People complain that players are stuck in contract jail and when orgs actually don't trap them people don't understand for some reason.

Isn't it crazy that a couple of years ago pacific fans would call america and EMEA fans crazy when defending their teams and they be doing this shit now.

Yall hate each other too much, like genuinely APAC hating on people is getting way too out of hand but if EMEA + AMER js put their differences aside for one tourney the APAC haters would get rolled.

When the best player on your team isn't performing well due to medical issues that's a problem

That was the same G2 where Leaf had medical issues and they still made it look close

So we seriously think that shit talking an entire region and calling a turkish team pigs is on the same level as standing up a couple of times lmao

?????

where tf do we do that lmao

That is literally the definition of a double standard lmao and a horrible excuse

Do you even know what double standards mean... Completely fine with BuZz insulting drx but whenever valyn insults meteor it's like hell on Earth for you guys

"Who's the best team in Korea now huh?"

Buzz insulting DRX = 😎

"Meteor, can you even shoot back?"

Valyn insulting Meteor = 😡

nAts/aspas

Pretty sure he was on KR t1 and then got dropped and then mce found them and made the guard

As in me talking about the entirety of China??

And T1 didn't make toronto, SEN didn't make Shanghai, and TH didn't make Bangkok

0/8

FNC and EMEA were both not even in the playoffs of Madrid, that doesn't mean FNC's run in 2023 was a fluke lmao.

Every fanbase has these people

Name me one time a KOI/DFM/ZETA fan + many more fans started sending death threats over the smallest things lmao.

EDG is an example but we are not at the same level as you guys lmao, s1mon drama wasn't even at the same level as some of your team's drama and got shit talked all the way through 2023 champs and yet we didn't even match a fraction of your fans' kpopification.

+slowly would feed families

Create a list of which team you want to win, since China is out this is my list of teams I am rooting for:

1. MIBR
2. NRG
3. GX
4. PRX
5. G2
6. FNC
7. TH
8. DRX

Last time I checked serious accusations shouldn't result in sending death threats to a person and wishing the worst for them (plus it was proven that korean teams did this). Also last time I checked not fist bumping someone shouldn't result in the death threats too lmao.

So by your logic PRX's 4th place performance at Iceland and 2nd place performance at Copenhagen were flukes because they got grouped at champs?