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cs:go major viewership

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#1
JettEnjoyer

is near to 400k during the group stage
nearly the same numbers as in Valorant Champions

  • Gaules and 100500+ watchparties cs:go is Valorant child
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Ashh
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boring asf ngl

#3
Shownu
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Hltv.org

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Thiag0_
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Who cars about viewership dude, in cs:go you only watch EU and CIS teams being competitive, boring af

Valorant much better at this point. Cs is a dead game in all aspects outside EU/CIS lmao

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Supr3meGucci
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Only reason why every region seems good in Valorant is because of the skill ceiling

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egg80085
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except India

#57
yourrr
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Yep and Iceland has many top valorant players.

#60
CalOtter
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Iceland 350k people
India 1.4 billion
Both zero major appearances

#72
Chocolate_Mint_Icecream
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Lmaoo roassteddd......wait

#94
vern
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because gaming isn't seen as an actual career so only a small amount of people actually play esports for a living :)

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Superex
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It's clearly not boring at all when it gets higher viewership than VALORANT :D

#31
EUisbetter
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better than being dead in every region XDD
valorant barely getting 1 million viewers when all regions are playing

#88
Blaku
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How could this be? How could u find games u don't care about boring? Doesen't seem human to me

#100
Heineck
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conhece a FURIA não?

#5
factsonly
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true csgo had 400k views yesturday

while valo had 350k french game had more views than major XD

#25
Superex
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CS:GO had 670k peak yesterday though :D
https://escharts.com/news/results-of-second-day-antwerp-major-2022

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factsonly
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“”Peak””

#28
Superex
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"true csgo had 400k views yesturday" What did you mean then? :D

#50
Avix
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why do all ur replies end with :D? We all know ur not actually making that face lmao

#56
Superex
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Yes, I am.

#61
Call_me_Papa
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:D

#76
Avix
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just no.

#6
williamm
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upvote if csgo good.

upvote if valorant good.

be friends :) both games are good.

#51
Avix
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-9 frags lmao

#58
williamm
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yeah idk if its cause no body likes either game or if people arent used to having friends :/

#74
Avix
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probably the second one tbh

#90
WinterZ
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based + idk why everyone is downvoting u

#99
Itchy
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Probably as a joke, both games are shit but we still play them 💀

#8
JokesOver
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Gaules has more viewers than mainstream for a non brazilian match
Brazilian fans are crazy

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StormX
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these csgo baits are getting boring

#78
Larry
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Gives the site some life though haha

#11
ShibaInu
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Valorant: Since 2020
CS GO: Since 2012

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Superex
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https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-antwerp-2022
https://escharts.com/news/pgl-major-antwerp-day1-results
"Comparison of the first day of the major with a similar top event in Valorant (VCT 2022 Stage 1 Masters) shows that the CS:GO tournament is significantly superior to its competitor in all major metrics. Even taking into account the fact that several games are being played simultaneously at the major, particular matches gathered more viewers than at Reykjavik: Masters. In viewership comparison, the Average Viewers PGL Major Antwerp was ahead of VCT 2022 Stage 1 Masters by 34%, and in terms of Peak Viewers — by almost 37%."
get owned with facts and logic :D

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nutab1e
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I just shit myself :|

#15
Matrix13e
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this is your first post in about 4 months and this is what u do ahhahaha lmao jsut shows how insecure u are XD.

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Matrix13e
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all ur posts before today to! XDDDDDDD Superex
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cs:go major viewership in Off Topic
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-antwerp-2022
https://escharts.com/news/pgl-major-antwerp-day1-results
"Comparison of the first day of the major with a similar top event in Valorant (VCT 2022 Stage 1 Masters) shows that the CS:GO tournament is significantly superior to its competitor in all major metrics. Even taking into account the fact that several games are being played simultaneously at the major, particular matches gathered more viewers than at Reykjavik: Masters. In viewership comparison, the Average Viewers PGL Major Antwerp was ahead of VCT 2022 Stage 1 Masters by 34%, and in terms of Peak Viewers — by almost 37%."
get owned with facts and logic :D

posted 3 minutes ago
Rip csgo in General Discussion
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-stockholm-2021

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nitr0's Liquid return "close to a done deal" in General Discussion
Switching to the superior game. Smart move

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nitr0's Liquid return "close to a done deal" in General Discussion
He switched to the better game.

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Will crowd be allowed in champions? in General Discussion
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posted 6 months ago
#DIADEFURIA in General Discussion
Almost

posted 6 months ago
1 MILLON VIEWERS in Off Topic
You've literally made like 20 threads about cs viewership. Why aren't you making them now? LMAO

posted 6 months ago
1 MILLON VIEWERS in Off Topic
LMAOOO these valorant frogs must be malding so hard

posted 6 months ago
1 mil in Off Topic
+1 VALORANT in shambles

posted 6 months ago
Favourite teams in esports. in Off Topic
CS:GO - Vitality
VALORANT - don't care

posted 6 months ago
CSGO MAJOR in Off Topic
Of course it will. Even a non-major event without crowd like IEM Cologne had more.
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-3-masters-berlin
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2021

posted 6 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
My account is to counter the delusional valulrant fanboys infesting hltv all the time as I already said. I'm done replying to you.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
Please stop replying to me bro it's getting annoying.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
You are so mad my dear - please calm down! :-)

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
Please stop malding valarante fangirl.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
Look at all these malding valorant fanboys lmao.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
So it's #1 on steam, because of skins not because people enjoy playing it lmfao. valulrant iq

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
Infested with cheaters 0/8

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
Irrelevant stat.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
It will go up don't worry. Today it had the highest peak for the last 3 months.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
In 5 years valulrant will be dead. The viewership is already declining lmao!

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
What trolling? I'm just stating facts.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
+1 OMEGALUL

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
#49

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
"Same teams playing each other for the past 3 years" and yet more people would watch that than the 2nd international valulrant lan with new teams OMEGALUL

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
+1 lmao. Literally the 15th online event's grand finals peaked at 300k on the main stream.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
Not for trolling. I'm just here to counter the valulrant frogs infesting hltv all the time.

posted 7 months ago
"CSGO KILLER" in Off Topic
692k grand finals peak lmfao and people say this dying game will kill cs OMEGALUL

posted 7 months ago

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Superex
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I lurk around all the time. It's funny seeing you cope when CS gets way higher viewership :D

#18
Matrix13e
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nah man its way more funny how u are this insecure and all the csgo frogs haha =)

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Matrix13e
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"I lurk around all the time" ofc u do bc ur insecure

#20
Superex
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How am I insecure? Do you even know what that means? :D

#21
Arisqq
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Insecure people have little confidence and are uncertain about their own abilities or if other people really like them:

#22
Superex
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Yeah, exactly.

#14
Pixsy
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Lol didn't he make some other csgo thread before as well.
This man is obsessed with views hip between 2 games.
Who carssssss

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Larry
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The replies show that there are some Valorant fanboys that are insecure though.
Never understood why people been comparing the viewership for the two games.

#95
Pixsy
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honestly
If you wanna play the game you like that's fine
If you wanna watch the game you like that's fine
Why make a fuss about games that other pple like and watch

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Larry
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Agree with you big man. I think the diehard Valorant fanboys have an obsession with csgo being dead or dying and then diehard csgo fanboys will never accept Valorant as a competitor to cs. I think a lot of it has to do with how Valorant was advertised as the next cs killer. And cs fans are annoyed because people been calling the game dead since 2017. Unfortunately I don’t think the two games will never go without being compared to one another.

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kristof
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shitlulrante fans crying in their basement rn 😆
grand final will have 3 million easily

#24
Superex
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True :D

#66
Revlo
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kristoff mad EU doesn't dominate val like CS, kekw. Keep being proud of dominating a game thats dead outside europe, too funny.

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Superex
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How is it dead outside Europe? :D

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Phamous
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Dota2 TI has more viewership than Valorant but, which game is more successful. From growth to successful content creators to social media presence to a very strong esport etc.

That’s what CSGO thrives on is being an esport. No one cares about CSGO content, it’s social media presence, or anything. Like who casually plays CS lol. That’s a horrible experience. Just… It’s the major and EU & BR treat it like soccer/football.

So, enjoy “winning” viewership but, we all know the last thing to fade is viewership. Just look at StarCraft 2 before LoL took over.

And I’m watching the major btw I’m not a silly ass fanboy lol. And it’s not hitting 3 million. We’ll need another NaVi love story.

#43
PoohShiesty
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CS will never die as long as we have Brazilians and Russians.

#63
Phamous
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I never said it will die. SC2 still around cause of Koreans.

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Larry
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Hi Phamous,
I think casually playing cs is more fun than casually playing Valorant. I can play cs without playing the actual game which is mainly what I do. The comments on this thread is pretty cringe though lol. I can see the major hitting 2 mil but yeah not 3.

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ntnoob
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No

#26
mauge67
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the major starts in 3 days this is challenger stage lmao,but yeah getting the same viewership at challenger stage as the first valo major groups is pretty good

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deathlyclaws
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Ah shit here we go again

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lorenzopajaroFC
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More than half the views are from Br, take all the brazilians out and CS is pretty much over

But for some reason they just won’t let the game die, CS has a special connection to brazilian culture that I just can’t explain, and Gaulês won’t let the game die because he owes his life to it no matter how much the international scene forsake him. Idk how it’ll be after after Fallen and co. retires but the br scene is still slowly dying despite its audience.

So yeah, CS andies can keep boasting about their numbers even though their game is only more popular than Val in br, which is funny cause vlr still somehow manages to be more “friendly” to Brazilians than hltv

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"More than half the views are from Br" barely one third is from Br :D
https://escharts.com/news/pgl-major-antwerp-day1-results
https://escharts.com/news/results-of-second-day-antwerp-major-2022
Scroll down a bit.

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AverageJoe
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well it is now teams will little fan base playing. wait till Navi, Faze, G2 start playing, then you will see teh real viewership.

This is like Knight, EG equifilant of popularity team, of course there will be no viewers unless u are from that country

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lorenzopajaroFC
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Sorry to tell you but G2 and liquid been playing the whole time, also yeah CS viewership might explode whenever the top teams are playing, CS is a decade old game that amassed a ton of fans throughout its history so of course these fans will come back for the big matches. This is just a casual audience however, T2 scene is basically dead with absolutely no viewers while Val’s is thriving, CS may have high peaks but by only bringing that up you guys are masking the fact that on the overall viewership is very low (20k on twitch normally while Valorant’s is reaching 130k+), notice how CS frogs only invade vlr during majors

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AverageJoe
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because CSGO fans care about esports. Valorant watchers care about the streamers. There is clear distinction. Riot will never do this, but imagine one LAN with no watch party, then you will see how many actually care about esports vs mainly there because of streamer.

You can already see last year when Shroud watch vs him not watching, like less than 50% of his viewers will actually tune into main stream if he is not doing the watch party

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lorenzopajaroFC
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Could say the same thing about gaules then, his watchparty is double the size of any in Val, also idk what you mean by viewership has gone down without shroud, that’s not true, he only got much more viewers than watchparties nowadays cause he was the only one actually doing it, his views fell significantly from Reykjavik to Berlin last year, people who want to watch Val won’t stop watching it because their favorite streamer isn’t costreaming.

Also, even if what you said was true, shroud gets ~20k on average, his fans would hardly make a difference

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AverageJoe
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gaules is the only BR stream as far as I am aware, so that make sense that all BR people go there since that is the only place to watch in their language.

for shroud, I am talking about back in the days when he get regular 40-50k stream when stream party. But when he dont stream (either start late or end early), the main stream (and some of the small watch party in total) only get around 10-20k more viewer than usual (if lucky)

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Pink_Maldito
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There are tons of games more popular than CSGO in Brazil, I don't buy this "special connection to brazilian culture" thing lmao.
CSGO is basically the only big esport where we don't suck, this alongside with Gaules personality and the fact that csgo is realy easy to watch help to draw viewers, most of the people who watch him don't even play CSGO.

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lorenzopajaroFC
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Uumm the CS scene is the biggest Esport scene in br by a mile, and yes there is a special connection between its people and the game especially for those born in the 90s. Literally more than half the people in their 20s that you meet in br have played CS, the game came around when people in Br were finally managing to buy their own computers and CS came as a free and extremely entertaining game for this low income youth.

LAN houses are a staple of the 2000s in br, CS also provided an opportunity for countless of poor kids to climb up socially, and it was the first esport scene where we managed to make our mark. All of this comes in a similar way as free fire does to kids nowadays, CS is cultural phenomena in Brazil, you’ll be able to talk about it to most above their 20s Brazilians and everyone will recognize the scene’s most emblematic names such as fer, fallen, taco, cold, fnx, gaules etc

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Pink_Maldito
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No It's not... League is more popular than CS and Free Fire is probably bigger than the two ones combined lmao. You are just being nostalgic and stuck in a bubble, youngsters do not give a shit about csgo and cs being a profitable job is a recent thing reserved to a really small group of people, BR local scene is in shambles because people only watch if Gaules is casting or if there are any of old washed veterans playing.

I am way above 20 and most of those people that you mentioned became famous only after their short dominance that put the BR scene on the map, the huge boost to csgo viewership came only after gaules turn into a successful streamer.

" Literally more than half the people in their 20s that you meet in br have played CS, the game came around when people in Br were finally managing to buy their own computers and CS came as a free and extremely entertaining game for this low income youth."

This part shows that you obviously do not know your country's reality LMAO.

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lorenzopajaroFC
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As I said, free fire is now what CS was 10 years ago, by longevity The CS scene had much more of a staple than lol or free fire.

you literally just ignore all my points: “youngsters don’t care about CS”, yeah, that’s why I said it was much more famous amongst people over 20, while free fire is more popular with the younger generation

“CS is only profitable to a select few”, again, right now it is, but I can name you tens of CS 1.6 pioneers that still owe their entire careers to the game

You clearly know nothing of Brazil’s story in CS since 1.6, it wasn’t the double major wins that came out of nowhere and put us on the map, it was a decade long arduous process and continuous improvement and attempts that managed to get those wins, but even then we were by no means nobodies on the world stage

And about the last art, if you say so

#92
dupreeeeeehalt
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he clearly doesn't know, cs became huge in brazil after mibr won eswc 2006

#33
patuj
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Why even compare viewerships now? Wait when the games actually get interesting and we start seeing good teams.

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jackb2016
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I mean CS:GO finals always destroys the numbers of Valorant finals tho.

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katsu_vlr
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I dont know if people remember but the first couple ignition series tourneys (Valorant's official tourney's at the time) had like 30k max viewers. Its gonna take time for Valorant to catch up to CS:GO's 20 year legacy. Lets just enjoy the games as they come :D

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Csgo is super predictable now. Feels like if a team stomp or start CT side they just have an advantage and rolls the other team. After watching valorant i realized how much csgo teams have to save because without the abilities retaking sites and such is nearly impossible with one man down

#42
AverageJoe
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predictable?? Have u watch a game of Icebox lol

it is same 3 strat running over and over again

#45
Ullyr
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It's not lmao the way valorant abilities work and eco rounds means literally every mistake is super punishing . Just being on eco or being down one player doesn't instantly mean you lose the round or you save. Sometimes watching cs is watching them do save simulator.

#52
arecyc
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alright come on bro,icebox is legit just viper wall sage wall b,they tried to fix it for that reason and it changed nothing

#67
Ullyr
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If you think that's it then cs strat wise would be even worse considering you don't have new agents. What is this take lol. I'm talkin about how guns and utility in valorant make it so that eco rounds are actually winnable and losing players early in a round doesn't mean you have to immediately save for next round as you do in cs.

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Larry
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Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me.

#41
AverageJoe
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not suprising, considering that CSGO has so much more concurrent players than Valorant

#48
maximumszn
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Just enjoy whatever game you are watching.

#70
Engreloy
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Nice peak viewership during the tourneys but have you seen the average viewers without tourneys? Casual CS is dead except in EU

#75
kitsunee
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csgo numbers aren't high because lots of pro players don't stream everyday unlike valorant where lots of pros are full time streamers too.

#83
Larry
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Exactly. Pros hardly stream cs as where in Valorant a lot of pros stream all the time and some of them even full time. Then you add that Valorant is a trendy game which causes more streamers to play it. I hardly watch anything on twitch nowadays anyway. Mainly semi finals or finals of events.

#80
DiegoMocu
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no 9z no party

#85
Larry
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Lot of angry Valorant fans

#89
ItsaMe
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No shit, game's been out for a decade

#91
behroz
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valorant is better because it has like birds and shit

#93
renywri
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20y cs...
2y valorant...

#96
1mBor3d
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why doesnt everyone just watch whatever they want to watch instead of arguing about which one is better because of viewership?

#101
Heineck
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Both games are really good can we not just enjoy them? why does it have to be a competition

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