Does China Ever Have Nepotism?

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Some teams in some way get to hire their friends or “connections” in some ways right. Does Chinese culture ever get into those stuff or do they have like a if you’re not the best at something get outta here mentality or something

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afaik their managements can get hella stupid (e.g. how chinese dota went from 4 TI wins in 8 years to having only 1-2 tier 1 teams)

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Bhrubby

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Not sure about dota

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Ryandr

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Yeah I know about the thing with the wings team. Also even in other eSports that I follow many Chinese orgs are very dumb.

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Nisham

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Eh, that's because Dota 2 doesn't have that much new chinese players, they have less players than Latam for example
Tho nepotism ofc exits in every scene

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every place has nepotism, if anything the asian countries in that region (south east asia + korea, japan and china) are infamous for their nepotism in the workplace generally

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I think in east Asia eSports is more generally considered as a job and so they will be more harsh when they underperform

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Bhrubby

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Is simon a nepo pick? Or are they nepo towards nobody (because he’s like one of their least performing sometimes but they still keeping him maybe?)

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melvinkoekemans

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bro s1mon is the best init in the world don't talk smack bout him
nobody is igl so it's natural he frags less

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Bhrubby

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I’m not but they kicked their igl haodong for him before no? Awhile ago the caster said nobody made a weird decision in game but says “but at least he’s a world champion”

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Pretty sure simon was a friend of a friend so he made it to their trials and they were pretty happy with him

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Bhrubby

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Because he knew somebody inside EDG in the first place?

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I don't think he was just a nepo pick, it takes a lot to replace your IGL (Haodong) for a friend of theirs. S1mon is only weak statswise, sure but his role isn't to frag, and if you take a look at his assists, it's quite insane how much support impacts he has regardless of his numbers. S1mon was only in EDG for basically almost no time in 2024, and he won champs on his 2-3 month as a rookie, not to mention he can even clutch out rounds at times. S1mon is definitely necessary for this team to succeed so far.

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I don't know, I was just talking about those countries in general. it naturally varies, he could've been a completely merit based pick up

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Edg nepotism is during tryouts for the team if u don't consistently drop 30 every 2 maps u get drop.

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Subwaywang

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This was what I was hearing about a lot during the initial evolution series, player playing for stats so they can secure a contract rather than for wins since kills is all some people look at.

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Ullyr

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Yeah edg team tryouts were brutal. They really wanted the top 5. That's why they dominate so far.

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Bhrubby

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Was simon the best fragger in their tryouts when they replaced haodong?

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Ullyr

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Nah not really s1mon was meant to balance out edg roster they had agent issues. Need a really supportive player. He got more confident though and been really great too.

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PPPPPPEKO

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Seems so, they tryout wooday1 and Simon at the same time and it turns out Simon can fit in better.

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Bhrubby

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Nobody and simon aren’t heavy fraggers though?

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Ullyr

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Oh nobody is tbh he just took a more supportive role because u have to in valorant. S1mon was meant to be util bot for the other 4

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Divi

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Interesting, but I guess that's just how it is in CN valorant, they probably have the most prospects/talents out of any region, so they really need to filter em out with brutal tryouts

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PPPPPPEKO

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We do have such stuff, but nearly every team have their second team as a backup, and generally the young generation is way better than the old-day connection.

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cyk

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we do, we are all humans

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whf

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Yes, the translator Luna is someone whose translation skills are very poor, yet she has always been the official translator for the Champions and Masters.

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best example lmao

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Bhrubby

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Is that the one always translating for edg during interviews

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melvinkoekemans

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yep

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💀💀💀

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Ullyr

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LOL

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Nepotism is present in every culture

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Bhrubby

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Korea?

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yes korea has nepotism if you are wondering, its actually very bad in korea.

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even more