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Champions Tour North America Stage 1: Challengers

Main Event: Upper Final

Friday, March 25th

4:00 PM EDT

Patch 4.04

OpTic Gaming

[2059]

final

2 : 0

vs.

Bo3

The Guard

[1971]

TGRD ban Ascent; OPTC ban Fracture; TGRD pick Split; OPTC pick Bind; TGRD ban Haven; OPTC ban Icebox; Breeze remains

Betting

$100 on OpTic Gaming returned $100 at 1.00 pre-match odds

Streams

Valorant

VODs

Not yet available

Maps/Stats

Overview

Performance

Economy

Logs (Soon)

All Maps

1 Split

2 Bind

3 Breeze

OpTic Gaming

6 / 7

Split PICK

52:01

The Guard

6 / 4

OPTC

TGRD

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Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
yay OPTC	1.45 1.85 1.09	270 333 214	23 14 9	/ 13 5 8 /	1 0 1	+10 +9 +1	83% 100% 67%	151 188 117	16% 27% 5%	8 5 3	0 0 0	+8 +5 +3
Marved OPTC	1.22 1.53 0.93	189 237 145	17 10 7	/ 13 6 7 /	6 4 2	+4 +4 0	78% 91% 67%	121 135 108	35% 40% 31%	1 0 1	2 0 2	-1 0 -1
crashies OPTC	0.98 0.58 1.35	237 150 319	18 5 13	/ 17 8 9 /	6 3 3	+1 -3 +4	70% 73% 67%	154 101 203	21% 20% 21%	2 0 2	3 2 1	-1 -2 +1
Victor OPTC	0.95 1.17 0.75	180 247 119	15 10 5	/ 15 8 7 /	3 2 1	0 +2 -2	65% 73% 58%	126 167 89	30% 34% 22%	3 3 0	2 1 1	+1 +2 -1
FiNESSE OPTC	0.69 0.70 0.69	105 134 79	8 5 3	/ 13 7 6 /	4 1 3	-5 -2 -3	65% 73% 58%	73 100 48	29% 33% 23%	1 0 1	1 0 1	0 0 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Sayaplayer TGRD	0.93 0.90 0.97	201 147 262	16 6 10	/ 17 9 8 /	4 3 1	-1 -3 +2	74% 75% 73%	133 97 172	21% 27% 19%	2 1 1	2 1 1	0 0 0
trent TGRD	0.91 0.91 0.90	177 163 192	16 8 8	/ 15 8 7 /	1 0 1	+1 0 +1	65% 58% 73%	108 96 121	42% 50% 37%	2 2 0	1 1 0	+1 +1 0
JonahP TGRD	0.90 1.65 0.07	189 314 54	15 14 1	/ 15 7 8 /	5 2 3	0 +7 -7	57% 67% 45%	131 206 50	26% 27% 20%	1 1 0	5 2 3	-4 -1 -3
valyn TGRD	0.87 0.68 1.07	160 102 225	12 3 9	/ 15 8 7 /	5 2 3	-3 -5 +2	83% 75% 91%	118 87 151	31% 22% 38%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1
neT TGRD	0.61 0.69 0.51	146 140 155	12 6 6	/ 19 9 10 /	4 3 1	-7 -3 -4	52% 58% 45%	97 84 112	32% 9% 50%	2 1 1	6 2 4	-4 -1 -3

All

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Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
yay OPTC	1.68 1.28 1.44	279 310 257	42 20 22	/ 23 9 14 /	2 0 2	+19 +11 +8	80% 94% 71%	159 178 147	16% 33% 5%	12 6 6	2 0 2	+10 +6 +4
Victor OPTC	1.55 1.20 1.34	273 309 226	37 18 19	/ 23 10 13 /	7 4 3	+14 +8 +6	75% 81% 71%	169 197 150	22% 24% 19%	9 5 4	2 1 1	+7 +4 +3
Marved OPTC	1.47 1.10 1.25	184 212 166	29 13 16	/ 20 8 12 /	13 10 3	+9 +5 +4	78% 88% 71%	117 127 110	28% 39% 21%	1 0 1	2 0 2	-1 0 -1
crashies OPTC	0.75 0.89 0.83	182 169 206	26 9 17	/ 28 11 17 /	10 5 5	-2 -2 0	73% 75% 71%	121 103 134	24% 24% 25%	3 1 2	4 2 2	-1 -1 0
FiNESSE OPTC	0.79 0.79 0.79	162 170 142	20 9 11	/ 24 11 13 /	10 3 7	-4 -2 -2	78% 81% 75%	98 115 87	21% 21% 21%	3 1 2	2 0 2	+1 +1 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
JonahP TGRD	1.22 0.64 0.99	223 242 183	28 19 9	/ 29 16 13 /	8 4 4	-1 +3 -4	63% 63% 63%	144 163 116	30% 22% 52%	1 1 0	6 3 3	-5 -2 -3
valyn TGRD	0.97 0.95 0.96	178 152 213	22 11 11	/ 28 16 12 /	18 10 8	-6 -5 -1	85% 79% 94%	120 98 154	30% 26% 35%	2 1 1	3 1 2	-1 0 -1
trent TGRD	0.97 0.62 0.81	162 178 143	25 17 8	/ 29 17 12 /	2 1 1	-4 0 -4	65% 71% 56%	103 109 94	44% 48% 39%	4 4 0	4 2 2	0 +2 -2
Sayaplayer TGRD	0.79 0.79 0.79	175 148 227	25 12 13	/ 32 19 13 /	5 4 1	-7 -7 0	63% 58% 69%	119 101 148	25% 28% 22%	3 2 1	6 4 2	-3 -2 -1
neT TGRD	0.47 0.49 0.48	131 122 151	18 10 8	/ 36 21 15 /	7 4 3	-18 -11 -7	55% 58% 50%	87 71 111	27% 14% 41%	2 1 1	9 5 4	-7 -4 -3

OpTic Gaming

8 / 5

Bind PICK

33:22

The Guard

4 / 0

OPTC

TGRD

All

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Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Victor OPTC	1.86 2.39 1.64	366 445 333	22 8 14	/ 8 2 6 /	4 2 2	+14 +6 +8	88% 100% 83%	228 265 212	16% 13% 18%	6 2 4	0 0 0	+6 +2 +4
yay OPTC	1.41 1.28 1.47	287 258 300	19 6 13	/ 10 4 6 /	1 0 1	+9 +2 +7	76% 80% 75%	170 155 176	17% 50% 5%	4 1 3	2 0 2	+2 +1 +1
Marved OPTC	1.29 1.35 1.27	178 156 188	12 3 9	/ 7 2 5 /	7 6 1	+5 +1 +4	76% 80% 75%	112 109 113	18% 38% 12%	0 0 0	0 0 0	0 0 0
FiNESSE OPTC	0.92 0.98 0.89	218 250 205	12 4 8	/ 11 4 7 /	6 2 4	+1 0 +1	94% 100% 92%	133 148 126	16% 11% 20%	2 1 1	1 0 1	+1 +1 0
crashies OPTC	0.64 1.14 0.43	127 212 93	8 4 4	/ 11 3 8 /	4 2 2	-3 +1 -4	76% 80% 75%	76 106 64	33% 29% 40%	1 1 0	1 0 1	0 +1 -1

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
JonahP TGRD	1.11 0.78 1.88	257 170 467	13 5 8	/ 14 9 5 /	3 2 1	-1 -4 +3	71% 58% 100%	162 120 262	35% 15% 77%	0 0 0	1 1 0	-1 -1 0
valyn TGRD	1.10 1.27 0.69	196 202 185	10 8 2	/ 13 8 5 /	13 8 5	-3 0 -3	88% 83% 100%	124 108 162	29% 29% 30%	1 1 0	2 0 2	-1 +1 -2
trent TGRD	0.67 1.03 0.02	146 193 36	9 9 0	/ 14 9 5 /	1 1 0	-5 0 -5	65% 83% 20%	97 122 36	48% 47% 50%	2 2 0	3 1 2	-1 +1 -2
Sayaplayer TGRD	0.59 0.68 0.39	148 148 149	9 6 3	/ 15 10 5 /	1 1 0	-6 -4 -2	47% 42% 60%	101 105 94	30% 29% 33%	1 1 0	4 3 1	-3 -2 -1
neT TGRD	0.31 0.26 0.44	115 104 142	6 4 2	/ 17 12 5 /	3 1 2	-11 -8 -3	59% 58% 60%	73 59 108	23% 18% 31%	0 0 0	3 3 0	-3 -3 0

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MrN00b7

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V1 2-1 C9

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SENBobstar

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Bro Saya vs YAY gonna be lit!! 🔥

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SENBobstar

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Bro Guard gonna put in PROD as a sub for one map if they up. (For anyone that doesn't know, which I'm sure u guys already do, Prod is signed to Guard as a Content Creator)

#104

DogeForPres

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W guard if they do that in seeding match

#113

SENBobstar

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I respect the Guard cuz they put fans first, the viewers get the best experience. Their video producers are crazy talented as well 🔥

#147

Wardy

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Are you saying this is a seeding match? It's literally to qualify for Iceland. Only the grand final is a seeding match.

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DogeForPres

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no im saying if guard qualify and play prod in seeding

#48

acedeltakokichi

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Good luck to both teams! The team that wins this match will qualify for Masters Iceland!

andrewdamf

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Version1 vs c9
V1 2-1

#114

Glaciate05

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#116

number1_MIBR_hater

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Rare andrewdamf L

Acro_

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C9 2-1 V1

Acro_

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just because V1 beat a 5th (Sen) and 4th (Optic) in NA doesnt mean they can beat C9, the best in NA is C9 2nd is V1

plas

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agreed, if they dont choke and get to grand finals it could go either way tbh

#41

wateruga

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Lol this didn't age well

#84

-morte-

-1

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Optic beat Cloud9, so what?

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CAZ0301

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optic on top rn, unlucky

Joey2448

-2

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C9 2 - 1 The Guard

N0rthN1ght

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ez for TBD

Ryan9500

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C9 2-1 Sen, revenge for last years chal finals. Vanity wins final 1v1 with a bucky

justron40

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C9 2-1 V1

gotta stick to my pickem

#10

Acro_

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Its says Bo3 below the days counting down to the match bozo, and i think only lbf and gf are bo5 for NA

#11

justron40

-3

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it's not updated yet because it happens in more than a week later.

#16

pom

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no i’m pretty sure it’s a BO3 because the bo5 is the grand final this is upper final

#12

DELUSIONAL_ZANDER_FAN

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VERSION1 2-0

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HAHAHA

-2

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Optic 2 -1 Version 1

#14

S3V3N

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V1 2-1 OpTic

6-13
13-6
13-9

#17

ORION720

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#18

Daffyduckferraro

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C9 2-1 GUARD

#19

Arisqq

-1

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OPTIC 2-0 #OPTICTOICELAND

#20

Chovymaker

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GUARD 2-0 #TRENTTOICELAND

#21

killjoysfriday

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GO GO GO GUARD

#22

unknown_trash

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i think it will be an LG 2-1 optic. everyone will underestimate them until they destroy everyone

#29

BIGGEST_LG_FAN

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nah, optic is na's best team

#60

-morte-

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Ayo hold up you're cheering on the wrong team, but I agree

#23

bala

-1

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Optic 2-1

#24

Arisqq

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OPTIC 2-0

#25

Fyujin

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the guard to masters
TGRD 2-1 OPTC

#26

onlyfax

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uno mas guard

#27

BIGGEST_LG_FAN

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optic 2-1, MARK MY WORDS, no team in NA COMES CLOSE to how well optic uses util and plays as a team. every other team in na like sen, xset, tgrd, c9, has to rely on individuals, I am confident that optic is the only team in NA who can win a game with both of their star players missing, while valorant is about adaptation, its hard to see a better team in NA than optic TBH. Sometimes they get outgunned but if they are hitting I think they are easiliy NA's best.

#28

KoreanOverlord

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they lost to x10 lol

#31

BIGGEST_LG_FAN

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lan is different, your vision strikers would know that, also notice how I said "no team in NA" :D

#45

ogking

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They lost to X10 when Victor was in bad conditioning. Nice

#123

Michnasss1

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na washed

#47

hehe444

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I dont think optic can win without yay popping off. optic is so inconsistent. but when they are in good form they are so much better than NA other teams.

#58

BIGGEST_LG_FAN

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optic really isnt that inconsistent, since beta, them and sen have been the most consistent teams in NA. Plus every team relies on their jett to pop off.

#30

linus

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guard 2-1

#32

Femly

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The guard 2-0

Optic will get exposed

#33

SaltyWaffIe

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Guard 2-1 I am so very excited for this game!

#34

KoreanOverlord

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guard 2-0

optic bout to get exposed

#35

lemonpogi

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The Guard will squash OG..
C9 wil readjust..
Masters: The Guard & C9

#36

JustEnjoying

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Optic plz win this 😭😭

#37

Ullyr

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The Guard will win. They're too zone in and practiced.

#38

STRAWHAT

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Happy that we have OpTic or GUARD guaranteed in Iceland

#39

hiei

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banger match. happy to be here

#40

AVE_TRUE_TO_CAESAR

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trent gonna sova diff crashies hard
sayaplayer is a much more consistent oper than yay imo

#44

ogking

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last time I checked Sayaplayer wasn't consistent against C9

#52

WiseGorbachev

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Trash opinion, yay is best player NA, owns that fraud

#57

Dr_DoofenshmirtZ

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lol how delusional are u if think sayaplayer is more consistent on op than yayster

#42

Carson

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optic 2-0 bro guard are just vsing the lower tier side of the bracket if optic don't chock should be easy W

#43

Shownu

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Sayaplayer and Trent will diff. The Guard 2-0

#46

hehe444

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Optic are so inconsistent. I dont think optic going masters is good for NA.

#75

DayZ-

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Optic have gotten so much better since their first loss against Rise. Wouldn't be surprised if they fix it all and own everyone in masters

#107

Chocolate_Mint_Icecream

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quite the opposite optic is the only teams that has consistently reached NA challengers semifinals every time they played it, if optic qualifies for iceland after beating guard , they will have played more matches on international LANs than any other NA team .

But its also quite obvious why they arent as popular as sentinels or Guard or 100T...They make dogshit content

#49

queueK

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Guard 2-1

TRENTED UP BABY

#50

Fhorkom

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It would be insane if we could see a team that formed in less than 4 months immediately going to Iceland :) #StandGuard

#51

swaglord69

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Optic 2-1

#53

gamingtaming

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Guard 2-0

#54

GENZAMAN1235

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prayOPTIC

#55

fadezis

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Guard 2-1 OptiC

#56

MEMEMINISTER

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Funny how c9 & V1 both are the most mentioned teams in the thread and none of them made it to the upper finals.

#61

fadezis

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top seed means nothing because of old patch and because it gives you nothing in playoffs(not even start in upper round 2 like in emea)
so team that achived it obviosly fought for nothing

#59

DayZ-

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Optic 2-0 or 2-1 in worst case scenario. I don't see a world where Guard beats Optic. Guard only really plays Haven, Icebox, Bind and a bit of Ascent. With Optic's win today against C9 I think its evident that Optic is way better on Bind and Ascent than any other NA team, and clearly much better on Haven than Guard. Guard haven't been looking as good on Haven, and their only "good" map is icebox which I guess Optic would ban immediately.

#62

Hampoise

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Icebox unstoppable Haven solid Bind is deadly Fracture solid Split not much data Ascent great both always perma ban breeze I don’t see ur point

#74

DayZ-

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Bind is deadly? they might be one of the better teams on bind but not the best which i believe Optic is. Their Ascent is in no way great lmao wtf

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Chocolate_Mint_Icecream

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optic went toe to toe with gambit on bind and demolished V1 and cloud9 on ascent , their icebox dogshit though

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hehe444

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guard going to ban haven for sure. they are really predictable on haven

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Hampoise

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Icebox unstoppable Haven solid Bind is deadly Fracture solid Split not much data Ascent great both always perma ban breeze I don’t see ur point

#64

thatpower

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feels good that either the guard or optic are making it to iceland

#65

magday_1

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Optic 2-0 if they dont underestimate them

#66

justron40

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optic 2-1 guard
optic to iceland lets go

#67

colimbra

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Guard 2-1 optic
#StandGuard
#trenttoIceland

#68

Neon74

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At least one of these teams is going to Iceland!!! Spicy match

#69

Cylo

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I wish SEN was here 😪

#72

Mik0

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all good I believe that SEN will learn this run and bounce back for sure with a better comp read and form

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Cylo

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As a SEN fan just promise me whoever makes it to Reykjavik just bring it home for NA

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Mik0

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felt that bro

#73

queueK

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The Guard will bring it home no kapp

#77

PrinceCharming

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Can't wait to see sayaplayer the last hope for American valorant

#96

Revlo

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ikr, I'm an OpTic fan, but in the end I root for NA above all.

#78

bala

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Optic 2-1. Same problem guard had with C9, Optic’s just been playing together for so long their synergy is insane. Could go either way tho Guard is super hot rn

#79

GENZAMAN1235

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prayOPTIC

#80

Femly

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Really excited for this match

#81

Alex_J

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The Guard 2 - 1 Optic

#82

kucD

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Guard and optic have such a similar map pool, gotta say it looks like optic wins it.

#83

ridan

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guard 2-0 optic

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Femly

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fns with word.exe

optic 2-0

fns without word.exe

guard 2-0

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GENZAMAN1235

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Bro i told you go to a therapist

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kushcash0331

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SEA humor

#100

wkeyspectre

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he's probably fakeflagging

#87

jussmonster

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Optic 2-0
#GreenWall

#88

Lewkiss

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Huge OpTiC fan, love all the individuals and love watching them play. I really hope they take lot's of time to focus on this match over the next few days before this game with The Guard. Trying to stay optimistic OpTic 2-0

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GENZAMAN1235

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So brother use optic flair and join the underlord optic gang

#105

Chocolate_Mint_Icecream

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welcome to the greenwall where we pray everyday to our gods hoping for a FNS stream

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GENZAMAN1235

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Agreed 💯

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banger match

#92

yvngzoldyck

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Optic 2-0.

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pewpew

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Dude, I am watching EMEA Challengers and no way NA wins against EU. It's almost like if they got so much better and NA got much worse lol.

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Revlo

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You're braindead. the fact the SEN fell off, and other teams have passed them, shows how much NA has gotten better.

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pewpew

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do you even watch the games lol. The synergy is completely off for SEN and its not any better for NA teams compared to EMEA top teams. Your whole family is braindead LMAO.

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pssssss

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Were you born this stupid and arrogant or did you evolve?

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pewpew

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there you go, another one with braindead family. You surely were born stupid and arrogant with that type of comments lol. Uneducated motherfucker, your mom is proud of you for being stupid LMAOOO

#94

Djysahkb0i

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THE GOURD 2-1 GLASSES

#103

Chocolate_Mint_Icecream

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lmao

#98

randomperson

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2-1 either way but i'm hoping that The Guard wins

#99

Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr

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The Guard 2-0 Optic

#102

Chocolate_Mint_Icecream

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Damm people do be sleeping on OpTic.... Kinda expected considered they make like 2 content pieces a month for their fans so not a lot of people care about optic

#108

ogking

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Optic 2-1, all trust in El Diablo aka best player in NA

#109

seankuku

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optic is easily winning this 2-0

#110

trola

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guys whos gonna win?

#112

ogking

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it depends on who's at their best form.

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juno_VLR

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OpTic have consistently played in every big event in NA. Sure, they’ve often finished 2-8th in those events, unlike SEN who won most of them in 2021. But, with the downfall of SEN, OpTic is clearly the most consistent team left in NA. I think they take this one and qualify. Let’s go ex-Wardell-teammates FNS and yay.

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koreankid259

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Well, sentinels have been amazing since the beginning vs optic who's been good since masters 3

#118

xanny

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The Guard is too stonkk!!!
but 2 - 1 optic

#119

inlucid

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Optic 2x1 The Guard
yay kills 80+

#120

User011098

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2-0 guard optic not there yet they still need experience like the guard👍

#126

koreankid259

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Man said optic needs experience and not guard🤣

#121

wholejuice

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2-1 optic if yay pops the f*ck off

#122

Taramissu

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I think fns have the best mid rounding call in NA. Optic 2-1 but I'm down for underdog story :D

#124

SlimShadyNick

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I am supporting optic since masters 2 just coz I'm a fan of yay. But guard as a team looks way better than optic keeping in mind the current form. If FNS and victor hit their shots consistently, OG got this. My prediction tho 2-1 guard.

#128

husseinhoss

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Yooo to be honest if guard wins this the have my respect no cap

#129

TendieLovin

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Guard 2-1 Optic

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Ryker

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Optic 2-1

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Chovymaker

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Guard 2-1
i hecking love trent alexander arnold

#132

Jnexic

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The guard will win this 2-0 confirm

#133

KoreanOverlord

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GUARD TTIME

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ufc

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OPTIC W

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ciro

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Optic 2-1
We have slept on optic for long enough

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whatspoppin

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these maps wtf

#137

VALoka

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the ugliest maps 😟

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swaglord69

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MAP POOL GOT ME TERRIFIED NGL

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VALoka

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the ugliest maps 😢

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killjoysfriday

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very very free for guard

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CyanideLoli

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How the turns have tabled.

#141

number1_MIBR_hater

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Let's go guard!

#142

LightningLeaf

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split not ct sided PogO

#143

VALoka

-3

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net is trolling kinda hard

#144

n1kkobami

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Nice defense side TGRD. threehundredandtwentytwo

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VALoka

-3

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net trollin

#146

pewpew

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He is doing his best lol. Net is just losing gun fights, not "trolling" with bad positioning or non-sense peeks.

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n1kkobami

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2-1, lose 5v3 2-6. TGRD? Wake up?

#149

celouzemkar

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This stupid idiot`s pick attack on Optic map, so stupid, win only one pistol round, Guard so stupud like my 97 y.o. grandma, they have zero brain

#150

n1kkobami

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They wanted to lose faster. That's why

#151

KoreanOverlord

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man first time I see the guard players choke

pressure for iceland is real

#152

Sprouts

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Trolled the map picks so fucking bad :(
Why would you pick split over icebox or even haven

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lemonpogi

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I agree!

#153

Hiccup

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Too EZ

#154

VALoka

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guard fell off

#156

onlyfax

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how old are?

#155

Chocolate_Mint_Icecream

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GGs to Guard but the GreenWall Stands Strong

#157

kushcash0331

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LFG OPTIC TO ICELAND!

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Taramissu

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They are definitely good, Optic is just more experienced and we all know fns and chet always have a good preparation for a match. It's very normal to hype a new team who suddenly beating everyone on their first vct run. Gg to guard and gl in lower bracket ❤

#161

lemonpogi

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This will be a good chance for The Guard to sharpen their team.. Losing is part of the journey.. If they can still qualify in iceland, they will be stronger..

#162

McSwishen

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Oof wish I could have watched this game. Second map optic dominated damn

#164

redlight

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Unlucky map vetos. But every loss is a learning opportunity.

I think The Guard will come back stronger, even if it's against a formidable foe like C9/XSET.

#166

ogking

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EVERYONE doubted optic... and what did I say? Yay is the best NA player, he's too consistent and RARELY has a bad game.

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vnvodich

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yay 🥶 🥶 🥶

#168

avepalto

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Sad day, still have hope for the guard

#169

Fire737

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Sheesh

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SilentCypher

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Dare I say they didn't get the chance to perform on their usual level as Saya didn't get to play Jett. Both maps needed Raze so the picks were kinda weird. I do believe Saya's impact with Jett and especially her ult is something that's terrifying

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ogking

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and I hope you know that yay is a different level than Saya