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PACIFIC RELEGATION!?!?!

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#1
fungame024

Ascended teams get 2 years in tier 1, but NS and BME ascended in the same year because BLEED was kicked out... WIll one of these teams get relegated or is it just underpreforming teams like DFM or TS that get dropped out?

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Dudhi
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its gonna be one of the ascension teams, the one that performs the worst

#7
fungame024
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Does that mean DRG will get relegated??? They were doing very well. Teams in CN like TYL, AG don't deserve to be in tier 1...

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Dudhi
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annoyingly, yes either xlg or drg will be getting relegated at the end of the year.

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fungame024
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Wow. But I reckon if one of them gets relegated then their players might split off into other tier 1 teams?

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Dudhi
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yeah thats the good thing i suppose, at least hopefully some of the Chinese teams upgrade just off of the possible roster changes

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SleepingSnorlax
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DRG also deadweight Vookashu is the only consistent guy but XLG strats wise and player wise is actually up there

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Twentytwo
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Just wait for 2027, AG are done for

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fungame024
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Hopefully Riot changes the franchisement system so teams that deserve to be in Tier 1 can get a chance.

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Vaaero
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If drg do well enough they can get back into the ascension tournament and re-ascend without missing a year, so it's not guaranteed they get relegated

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fungame024
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Yeah but again, their strong players like vo0kashu (I think I spelt that right) might get signed by other teams... This means they might not perform as well in Ascension. Remember, we still have Rare Atom lurking out there.

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Vaaero
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I think most teams would try and hold on to their players until after ascension, and if they can't win ascension again because their good players got poached, maybe it would be time for other players to get a chance.

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Mirage27
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Either BME and NS will be relegated to the ascension tournament or directly back to tier 2 after this year because they are the ascension teams. BME just took Bleed's place because they were kicked.

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unofficialwaifu
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I hope they give a warning to TS/DFM at least... Like NS/BOOM are great teams and are able to qual to champs

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Twentytwo
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2027 riot is making changes to partnership teams, maybe they kick dfm,ge or ts

#17
fungame024
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I think GE probs stay.

#31
FriendO7
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same GE has always been good to players
like allowing monyet to go to prx even when he had 3 year contract
and are still in good relation ship with all former players and coaches
And they did whatever riot asks from them like content,watchparties all that

#32
fungame024
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I honestly just want to see Kr1stal stay in tier 1, he was goated in ScarZ and XLG. IGLing a full Chinese team whilst being Russian is very impressive.

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unofficialwaifu
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GE at least they try, treat their players right and have a good relationship with their former players

DFM indirectly killed Crazy Raccoon Valorant but they try to be better

TS is just pure nepotism by this point and the fact that one player got cut through a facebook call is just absurd lol. So I'm praying even more for TS' downfall.

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Twentytwo
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What?? Every team now gets 1 year and if they qualify for champs they stay another year. If bme and NS qualify for champs whoever makes it deeper stays and the other gets relegated to ascension. Same everywhere, if g2 doesn't make champs they get relegated back to ascension

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SleepingSnorlax
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Chances are NS might go back to ascension because boom are here to stay

#16
catNmouse
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poor NS, the ascension runner up is already taking the spotlight over them

#20
Anzaldinho
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poor? why can't they do what boom did as well lol

#24
WatsomN
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bcs neon nerfed xdxdxd

#12
Anzaldinho
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hopefully NSR
boom is actually fun to watch

#18
whitebeans
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g2 will be regulated in Americas

#19
catNmouse
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regulated?

#21
Kaito_M8
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Got his fake flagging ass right there

#22
poetichare
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to be fair some americans cant spell for shit, apparently they can only read at a 7th grade level on average

#25
DrudaL
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make sense

#26
1One1
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With the current tier 2 competition, i can't imagine NS and Boom lose to these teams
Mid tier 1 pacific team could at least reach lower final Ascension

#27
Wendler
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IF an Ascension team makes champs - They extend their stay for 1 year

IF an Ascension team finishes top 8 in their league for split 2 - They go to the ascension tourney to essentially gatekeep their spot

If an Ascension team bot 4's in their league for split 2 - they auto relegate down to VCL

If both ascension teams make champs - the one that progresses the furthest stays while the other goes to ascension to gatekeep
If both ascension teams bot 4 their league in split 2 - two new teams get promoted to VCT

Likely a lot of this landscape changes though once teams get re-assessed and the league potentially changes as a whole after those contracts end in 1-2 years

#28
Aielt
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when you say gate keep, do you mean like they play against the winner of ascension for the spot or do they participate the entire ascension tournament like everybody else?

#29
TMosura
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Unknown, all we know is that the lesser Ascension team in VCT Pacific that joins the next edition will join the tournament regardless.

#33
fungame024
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What do you mean by that?

#36
TMosura
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So in the situation where an Ascension team made it to Stage 2 Playoffs but didn't qualify for Champions, they'll automatically qualified for the upcoming edition of Ascension. If both teams suffered the same fate, both teams go down to Ascension.

But in the case that both Ascension teams made it to Champions, whoever placed lower will be the one that goes down to the Ascension tournament.

#38
fungame024
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Oh wow!! Thanks for that info.

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SleepyBear
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Just like what i said, the whole franchise ecosystem is completely fucked. It’s way too cutthroat for the Ascension teams only. Meanwhile, a partnered team can go 13-0 losing every year and they still get to stay in "Tier 1" for three years straight now chilling with 0 achievements.

Meanwhile, NS and BOOM are out here fighting their asses off trying to make it to Champs with only one year to prove themselves. If they don’t make it to Playoffs, Masters or Champs one of them is getting kicked back to Tier 2 wasting another full year grinding their life away. Inspirational stuff, really. Peak comedy ecosystem.

Half of these so-called "Tier 1" teams are only there not because of skill its because of pure luck and Riot’s delusion that "money = more fans" or some other bullshit. they don't think about the competition or player they only care about money. The rich stay richer and the poor stay poor, being in tier 1 doesn't mean they deserve it.

#39
Wendler
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Well, its important to remember its a partnership, not a franchise slot, not to get semantic but the difference here is important

teams were always on a basis of "here's our initial 2-3 year agreement, should things change your position in the league can change to". It protects riot and both orgs that go "under" or have worse performance from essentially bankrupting the league. There was already talks this past offseason of re-assessing the format as a whole or how many teams are partnered as i assume riot has realized some of it just isnt sustainable anyways.

I think pacific situation is deff the most unique we have seen so far, boom seeming found their identity and have locked in, which shows the weaker part of this system. At the same time this could also provide more riot info when orgs are reassessed as well. Just a lot of unknowns to that regard especially to how things will change after this year.

#41
SleepyBear
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Yeah "partnership" sounds nice until you realize it’s just franchising with extra steps its the same shit bruh. The whole 5 year agreement thing is a joke when in reality Riot hasn't dropped a single deadweight team despite them putting up historic levels of failure. Meanwhile, Ascension teams have a 1 year death timer. Make one mistake? BOOM back to Tier 2. Start slow? Too bad, you're done buddy go back to Tier 2 lil bro. But if you're a partnered team losing all year? "Oh, let's give them another chance, they just need time (absolute clown show).

If Riot actually cared about protecting the scene, they’d protect competitive quality, not just brands with deep pockets. Fans don't care about your business stability when half the matches are snoozefests with Tier 2/3level dogs shit clown show team that bought their way into Tier 1 and stayed there.

Pacific just exposed it the hardest because teams like NS & BOOM prove how fragile the system is when actual hungry teams show up. But the reality is simple: Riot is more scared of losing sponsor money than losing the soul of their esport.

Until they start kicking out the freeloaders and making Tier 1 something you earn, not something you buy, it’s not a competitive league it’s a corporate hobby league.

#37
TM06Nick
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the 2 year rule no longer exists. its always based on your yearly performance now

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