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Emea duelists yapping

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#1
Froxe

Where does kaajak rank among emea duelists

Where does he rank in all duelists in every region

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ArterieX
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he is Top 6 inEMEA IMO

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Froxe
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Who are the 5 above him

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ArterieX
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Derke Woot keiko lewn xeus maybe flor

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Ronyko23
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flor hahahahahhah

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ArterieX
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i am positive if they 1v1 each other that flor would mid diff him

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Ronyko23
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Flor is just click with better pr.Infact click won agaiinst apeks lol

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BrotherManRizzler
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if they 1v1 xdddddddddd i love these type of arguments

#31
w1atrak
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They literally did

#16
Cacachocolat
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Still disrespecting miniboo, that's crazy

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Skyns
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delusional

#50
valoranthater836792
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DERKE, XEUS, MARTEEN, ARA, KAAJAK, ALFAJER, MINIBOO > FLOR

FLOR > koalanoob and FILU

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kfan4238173
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First and first

#7
DBStudios
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Prob top 3 in EMEA but maybe top 20 itw realistically

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Cacachocolat
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He would be top 1 in Ch0na

#18
Borge_heheheha
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heretics top 1 at being runner ups lol china would never lose 0-3 to lulquid

#27
JackZIn99
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everyone in china would except edg

#48
Cacachocolat
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TL would beat all Chinese teams not named EDG

#19
cxrsedval
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kk, kai, whzy, rarga, stew clears

#36
aspassonjiezounb
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st0w got cleared

#49
DBStudios
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Fr0nch talking come back here when your people don't go and attack another team

#51
Cacachocolat
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Ok Ch0nese fake flagger

#11
bE
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derke > miniboo > woot > kamo > kaajak in emea
prob top 15 itw

#34
KINGMANNY42
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bro miniboo shat on derke in the vit vs th

#46
bE
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recency bias, derke was carrying at bangkok + kickoff

#12
Ronyko23
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xeus & lewn looks better indv. Better than derke atm.

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Soddalele
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xeus i might agree with but lewn so far is so feast or famine, he wins the round and loses it 5 seconds after. but Derke performance up to the fnatic game cannot be understated either. i think that game might have rocked vitalitys mental.

its like 2023 fnatic after Loud exposed their lotus to the world, they werent the same for a long time.

also you never know how much chem there was between trexx and derke so that might have changed a fair amount aswell

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-Artorias
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xeus> derke > lewn >kamo>minibruh>kaajak

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luminescience
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  1. derke
  2. xeus
  3. kaajak
  4. kamo
  5. marteen
  6. lewn
  7. florescent
  8. ara
  9. koalaboob
  10. click
  11. filu
  12. nepoboo
#22
Bigfish
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Nepoboo is at the top of acs in emea btw

#32
luminescience
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just because he had once in a lifetime performance against shaky vitality that doesn't make him good

#38
Soddalele
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no bias found here

#43
gold2peak
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff
Once in a lifetime!

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temi
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depends if he has an op

an op kaajak top 3/2
no op top 6

#20
Congo1
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  1. Derke
  2. Xeus
  3. Miniboo
  4. Marteen
  5. Kaajak
  6. Kamo
  7. Lewn
  8. Florescent
  9. Koalanoob
  10. Filu
  11. Ara
  12. Click

Ara looked really good but it would be disrespectful to put him much higher after one single game. However he could climb up really fast with more good games.

Currently there is a bit of a gap after 7th place. The top 7 seem really strong. The other still have more to prove or have some issues.

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id say koalanoob->flor in terms of personal performance, both have had good performances on non functioning teams tho but thats just my opinion.

also lewn high ceiling but horrible decisionmaking which literally loses his team rounds, so i feel like he should be lower even tho his ceiling is NUTS.

overall decent list tho. if miniboo plays the same today id say miniboo->xeus. but again, personal opinion.

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Lewn is very clearly 7th to me. Clearly worse than top 6 but also clearly better than the ones below him. He just needs time in T1 to learn discipline. I cant put him below guys like koala who cant entry with rifle.

Also Flors agent Pool seems problematic to me. Needs to learn yoru.

However flor entries better than koala. But ofc koala has the great OP as a plus.

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Soddalele
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u got a point. i dont think flor even neeeds to learn yoru imo, batu looks very good on yoru but uncomfy on alot of other agents.

i think flor has the maturity to flex more than batu ATM

OR just play double duelist.

in terms of kajaak tho, if he gets an OP he looks like a top 3 EMEA, might be Bias tho but kids insane with the OP

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Congo1
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Sure. But his rifle needs to improve. I know he can do it due to his T2 time but he needs to show it on T1.

So far Marteen has been absolutely incredible. He would be my stage 1 #1. I have him lower due to respect for Derke and his weakness late last year.

Also Miniboo played a perfect stage so far. Cannot put him below kaajak.

So it has to be 5th for now

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Soddalele
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yea id argue miniboo for 1/2 with marteen on current form. im not arguing kajaak higher im just saying he might even be top 1 with OP specifically

But yea saying anything else than derke nr.1 would be dishonest af. guys been top 5 ITW for 3+ years IMO

just to add on koalanoob, he has the highest FKPR in EMEA, thats why i value him over flor atm. NAVI just dont capitalize of it nearly enaugh

#44
Tomczi
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i would put kaajak above marteen but overall good list

#45
Soddalele
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marteen highest rated this split, dont think u can lower him just going by that.

#21
Soddalele
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honestly depends if he has an OP in his hands or not. probably top 2 with OP so far, world probably somewhere in top 10.

his rifling is abit worse but id say that more bad moments than him in general.

what i am incredibly impressed about is the way and how fast he turned it around from a rough start and didnt let it affect him with being derke replacement and all the comparisons that came with derke absolutely wrecking everyone at the start.

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Anguibok
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The fact Derke is one of the 3 duelist with a KD < 1ios quite saddening, we shouldnt put him top 1

#30
Congo1
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That is very reactionary.

Vitality struggled a bit so what? He was shared MVP of Bangkok with chichoo. That just happened...

#37
Soddalele
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I think trexx and derke had good chem. also the whole team seems a little out of sorts when 1v1's arent won. thats not on derke

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Anguibok
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I'm not saying thats on Derke, i'm saying that being under 1 KD (0.91) make me think I cant put top 1 anymore, he's got same KD as Avova's... Even flor have 1.06.

I'm not saying he is not a good duelist, or he wont be the best duelist at the end of the year, I'm saying that putting top 1 a duelist that currently in a crisis sounds exaggerated. (You can even put him top 3 if you want)

#40
Soddalele
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its still reactionary like congo says, tier lists should never be who is top1 in current form, cus that could put lewn both top or bottom every map thats played

#41
Anguibok
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Isnt the contrary of reactionary ? I my understanding of the word its when you want the past.

Anyway in that case they need to precise the time we take in account if the last games doesnt count

#42
Soddalele
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id say its different from one player to the next IMO. Derke in my opinion has been a top5 duelist ITW for 3 years and has delivered to that level this year and even looked better at times.

so U KNOW what quality is in him and how he delivers NORMALLY.
kajaak as an example, have not been tested yet, how does he react to dips in form, team chem going to shit ETC.

This is why i struggle so much with lewn personally cus that boy is like a bouncy ball. u know he has it in him but just "FUCKING FOCUS" yaknow?

#33
Frogger0_0
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top 3

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jixk
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miniboo is better derke is better xeus clears with high diff maybe pile is lewn,kamo and marteen is worse but on his high highs he could match him if he beats TH and diff miniboo this is all null and void and he is competeing for 1st if not 1st out right

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