Cutting qck is loud’s biggest mistake

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LOUD’s biggest mistake was cutting qck at the time. Don’t get me wrong—I don’t think the old LOUD with qck was an S-tier team, but they were fighting for wins. They just needed to wait a little longer until they had a star duelist (I’m talking about dgzin, the guy is insane).

Instead, they cut qck to bring in pANcada (btw, I genuinely love him), which led to so many role issues on the team and didn’t even address the main problem: the entry role. That eventually contributed to the departures of Less and Saadhak.

What they should’ve done was keep their roster intact and scout while waiting. Even if Less had left eventually, it’s always easier to find a solid Viper/Sentinel role player than a reliable duelist. And if he had left, look at lukxo—the guy is literally the best player on the team right now and might be the next Less.

Sure, Saadhak isn’t the same IGL he used to be, but I’m pretty sure a roster of Saadhak, dgzin, cauanzin, tuyz, and Less or lukxo would still be at least an A-tier team. And considering the current state of NA Valorant, they probably would’ve been a top 3 or 4 team, which is pretty impressive.

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Cutting Saadhak was the problem

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They didn't had money

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Zykkie

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Tbh I’m not even sure if he was actually cut from the team. There was literally nothing left for him in LOUD anymore. Maybe he made the right choice by going to EU, or maybe he really was dropped

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Saadhack was the problem

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ta calado burro estupido

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Not really, there were reports that Aspas left LOUD because he didnt want to play with Saadhak

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Aminbg02

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the reports i found all over were that aspas didnt want to play with LESS
fRod during an interview with i forgot who said that there was a player rumored to be less wanted shit ran his way and that they changed comps in masters tokyo

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This was already debunked by both Aspas and Less. The most recent story is that Aspas and Saadhak had different views about the game, comps and strategy and Aspas also had problems with the management and infrastructure of LOUD in Los Angeles. The Aspas vs Less "beef" never existed

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se for olhar historicamente, o bzk queria jogar para o aspas e tomou kick, o frod queria jogar para o aspas e tomou kick, o peu provavelmente tinha a mesma mentalidade mas não tinha voz nenhuma ativa e tomou kick, a ideia de jogo do saad era nao jogar pro melhor duelista do mundo e o aspas percebeu isso quando o frod tomou kick
e depois de ter feito toda essa cagada o saad decide sair do time (e a gente sabia que o less ja ia sair tambem, afinal o pancada era pra ter entrado no lugar do less, nao do qck)

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Da onde q vc ta tirando isso de jogar pro aspas cara, isso nunca existiu

Bzka nem contribuia pro tatico da loud

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aketrps

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como q nao contribuia? se o coach nao contribui por que ele ainda estava la? ficou 2022 inteiro com a loud

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Bzka funcionava mais como manager, tatico era inteiro sacy e saadhak como eles mesmos ja disseram mil vezes, foi por isso q no final de 2022 votaram pra kickar o bzka, na real ele so tava no time aquele ano pq o onur q era o coach q eles queriam tretou com as leis de vacinação do Brasil, deixando eles sem outra opção até encontrarem o Frod durante o champions

Isso é info conhecida po, mostra q essa parada de “jogar pro aspas” foi tirada do cu mesmo

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thanks didnt see that

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Loud's problem wasn't the entry role lol, their problem was trying to invent a new meta just because they didn't want to play supporting the duelist every time

And when they kicked qck they could have put tuyz as duelist, he did a decent job playing jett and raze (very inconsistent because he also had to flex because a certain someone wanted to igl while playing neon 🤡, you can imagine the disaster scrims were for tuyz)

the reality is Loud's biggest mistake was cutting fRoD, he would have never let this shit happen (and honestly Aspas probably wouldn't leave the team either)

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Laundry

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I thought Saadhak was forced on neon cuz tuyz wouldn’t play duelist cuz he knew he was scared for his career

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burritx

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no it was saadhak's idea to play neon, he said it himself

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it was his idea but i'm sure he said that he let his team pick the roles they wanted and he filled whatever was left, which was duelist, and then he chose neon as his duelist of choice.

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aketrps

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saadhak was the problem since the 22 champions

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qck is very mid but loud def shouldnt have cut him it ruined their whole planning. but ig they needed to do that to try to save their year since riot shitty format had them carrying scores between splits with no lcq

btw pancada was allegedly supposed to sub for less since he almost left mid-year in 24

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Zykkie

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He reminds me ICY , but look at G2, they just waited long enough until they got their hands on Jawg

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nah loud 24 would prolly disband anyways

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Frod/Saadhak were a goated duo and LOUD probably shouldn't have cut them. I've really been disappointed by Tuyz/Cauanzin's performance within this current iteration of LOUD too. Very inconsistent performances and questionable decision making from them, nowhere near their past performances. Team just feels directionless now.

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Cauanzin and Tuyz seriously went from players worthy of being title contenders, with Cauanzin honestly probably having a really good chance to have been an mvp for a tournament, to both playing super questionable. The leadership in Loud has just fully vanished.

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From my perspective, qck is a VCT franchise player and should have been picked by any Brazilian org regardless of their current roster.

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burritx

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1 year being mid and 1 year being terrible in franchising, he absolutely did not deserve to get picked up again

he trialed for mibr and they decided to go with palla instead

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#justice4qck

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prope1

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ok but all of this wouldnt happen if they picked up dgzin to start with, qck didnt even play duelist in 2023 and dgzin looked really good

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burritx

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They wanted a flex player for duelist

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QCK was terrible, he had 2 life games and was dogshit 90% of the time

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aketrps

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all saadhak's fault

frod, aspas, qck and less

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shzuo

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QCK was not good, but Loud management is shit.