Should we kick Korea out of VCT

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grisx23

The monopoly of scrim is disgusting, and people should advocate to have Korea removed from VCT as a whole

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explain?

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messithegoat

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vct pacific is in seoul so pacific teams scrim a lot of t2 korean teams resulting them leaking vods to t1 korean teams

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is there proof?

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only fr0st and other SEA no name coaches yapping about it. no proofs lmao

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swerdog

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2 of the 8 non-korean teams' head coaches outright saying it + Alecs alluding to it. And tanmay too, but yeah, nobodies. Make sure to zip up joe marsh when you're done.

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smartest sentinel fan here guys^^^. You mean teams with 0 chance of winning anything? Also, trusting a Twitter leaker as the "evidence" is crazy. Bait used to be believable

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rumours circulating that Korean teams are sharing scrim info with other Korean teams. that's pretty much it.
that or they are (for some reason) refusing to scrim teams whose info they're also supposed to be leaking to their friends - that one doesn't make sense to me. how are you supposed to leak SEA scrims to your friends if you don't scrim SEA in the first place

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i thought it was more so t2 korean teams being unwilling to scrim with non-korean teams, hence the monopolyising of scrims, lwk messed, potentially forcing t1 teams to only scrim against each other

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lmao

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Surely not since they have brought two trophies for Pacific

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agreed but riot always favors korea, even gave them two scripted trophies

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Vyde

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every emea trophies are, not ours

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bE

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more scripted than WWE lmfao, geng got exposed at champs and T1 will get exposed at toronto (if they even make it)

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I get as a KOI fan you must be depressed but stop being delusional. Its always the number 1 excuse for EU fans, "its scripted".

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Effluxi

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Literally one guy, tf you mean "number 1 excuse for EU fans" fuck off

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archetype

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geng losing at champs after making 5/5 (kickoff, madrid, stage 1, shanghai, stage 2) consecutive finals across the entire season: exposed
acend falling off the face of the earth after winning champs: ?
emea as a whole not winning a trophy since tokyo: ? lmfao

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bE

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geng was playing plumbers ofc theyd make all their regional finals
gambit shouldve won anyway
took a break and emea is still tied for most trophies

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I'm really curious about how it's scripted. Could you please explain it to me in detail? I have a low IQ, so please elaborate clearly with facts and proof.

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Congo1

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Weak bait

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Magicpanty

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Oh no pacific no trophy...

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I know you're baiting but I lowk agree

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nonchalantasian

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pacific is a poverty region without us

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grisx23

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This is the type of thoughts that Korean teams have leading to disgusting advantage that they feel obliged to

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Vyde

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did you get hit by omen paranoia or something

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grisx23

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No, I am just explaining the thoughts behind the Korean teams. They think they are better than every other teams in the region so they dont feel shame sharing scrim results. Like "why bother, we are gonna beat them anyway"

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Classic korean

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grisx23

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More like classist korean

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struggling with an inferiority complex?

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Bro had to edit it for more harshness 🤦🏿💔but not at all icl i dont wanna involve this kind of shit in esport forum but since you always have to say about this shit i might be living in a better conditions than u tbh

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Classical korean behaviour being racist to anyone who's not korean and not white

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gordonramsay

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how is that racist?

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Studies have shown that South Korean textbooks often perpetuate racial stereotypes and cultural biases. For example, the National Human Rights Commission of Korea found problematic content in over 90 textbooks that reinforced racial segregation and cultural hegemony. Illustrations of children from different countries often depicted non-Western children in stereotypical or demeaning ways, such as portraying Kenyan children as unclothed with leaves covering their bodies.

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gordonramsay

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i think u guys just misunderstood what he meant by poverty region. Just probably meant not good, I grew up in the states im well aware of what racism is bud

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Effluxi

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why are you making excuses for the guy who full well knew what he was saying and keeps going in other threads

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merciless-pity8989-89

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blah blah blah, it’s still not against the rules

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grisx23

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Sharing scrim results is against the rules. Why do you think Chet got banned

but yeah now its not cause you know Korean vs Indian. Its easier to pick in Riots eyes

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asura_sleep

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tbf frost said he reported it alr last year but riot said its not bannable (idk iif i remember it correctly)

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merciless-pity8989-89

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page 12. 3.21

Sharing results and footage, team comps etc, are only against the rules if the purpose is something other than riot competition. Chet was just streaming it, and he wasn’t even on a team at the time, that’s why he got suspended.

https://cdn.sanity.io/files/dsfx7636/news/a6534709d3b87488b5f7ee1e2c294820ab178006.pdf

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grisx23

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Reading between gaps.
"Esports Professionals may not deliver/leak Riot confidential or non-public information to others or use it for any purpose other than competing in Riot Games esports competitions."
Scrim footages are non-public that shouldnt be shared with others, and that includs other teams. And "use it for any purpose other than competing in Riot Games esports competitions." is obivously ambigious and cop out so Riot can pull of these racist pick and choose shit.

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merciless-pity8989-89

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i didn’t read between gaps, i specifically gave the key point. If i wanted to misinform I wouldn’t have link the code of conduct.

Regardless, it’s not against the rules as suggested earlier. Most SEA teams just decide to not scrims the korean team and it’s all good. They have a solid tier 2 so it’s not that big of a loss.

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of course the DRX flair defending this

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merciless-pity8989-89

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FrosT been holding on to that evidence for an awfully long time, I wonder if something will finally happen or if this will all blow over once ppl realize that it’s still not against the rules no matter how much you dislike it.

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Effluxi

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It's leak and get sanctioned by riot or try and go through the proper channels and get harassed by suckers and ignored.

I guess every team should just never scrims each other and everyone should just leak everyone's strats all the time then? The point is it SHOULD be against the rules. This loophole is BS and you know that.

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might wanna get educated idiot

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Effluxi

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pure projection lil bro

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https://www.vlr.gg/471086/blah-blah-scrims-blah-blah come read this
lol you have no idea about laws and DRMS
you idiot do you even know what digital assets are? fucking idiot

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Effluxi

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personal attacks are all you've got to cover your insecure ass, run along

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yep you have no idea what youre talking about so you focus on that, ofcourse youre an idiot
you legit have no idea about any of this, you dont know anything about digital rights management and assets, you just want to run your mouth in a situation you have ZERO IDEA about, ofcourse youre a fucking idiot

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KaedeTsuneta

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yes

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RzqoFoxie

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You're very close! But don't worry I'll help you fix that.
Should we kick korea out of Pacific? Now that's the right question. And the answer is yes.
We place them in their own region, giving the other pacific countries a chance to qualify

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grisx23

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You right but they will abuse the loopholes anyhow like they are right now. Its despicable

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PENTAKIM

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This is like saying kick Brazil out of World Cup because they have the most trophies. The IQ vacuum on this guy is so massive that I am losing my IQ to him

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grisx23

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Losing IQ to most obvious bait. It seems like you dont have much left buddy

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Trusting fr0st is so funny. Korea team can win without share lol