FrosT was right all along

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Ryukk

https://x.com/ElevatedSpeaks/status/1909830832342413634
Home advantage is real

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He was never wrong nd lots of teams do this shit , not just geng's academy there's always a chance any other korean team they scrim will leak it nd same can happen if geng scrim an Indian team , it depends on team to team nd how high they uphold sportsmanship spirit.

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lets be real geng acad would 2-0 ge

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0/8, nice try

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LMFAO real

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Actually not that shallow & not just about GE. it can disadvantage any team that will face kr teams eapecially if theyre in playoffs or need to qualify to the internatuonal tourney. I thought leaks were only by screenshot or talking face to face, leaking VODS kinda too much

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Now I'm thinking that all kr teams can do this with random kr team

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YIKES
https://imgur.com/a/b8s3wav

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Even shared a VOD of the scrimms ???

HOLY

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I think its funny people believes GENG needs scrim leaks to beat GE LMAO

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even Gen.G academy would 2-0 ge

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True that tbh in ge current state, but u gotta admit it's definitely somewhat fishy

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you totally missed the point. Of course GenG would win against GE but its about the principles. Korean teams have been accused of leaking scrims with fellow korean teams.

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and Im just being realistic. Cant really see a world where solo and hsk scrim leak and jeopardize their career to prep for GE when its on vods anyways.

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you can't see that world because you refuse to

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Get his ass!!!

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it been way before that... Kr teams been doing thisbfor long.
Even Frost said that. It doesn't matter whether GE loose or not its about ethics.
And let alone Imagine GenG how to stoop so low to defeate GE..😭🤣 Funny

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damn bro that korean dick in your mouth must feel so good huh

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Downvotes say it all bro... You are just being delulu atp

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downvoted for the truth 😭

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Expected that from a Korean...

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expected what? you think geng winning ge without any scrim leak is delusional?

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Wouldn't be the first team who have accused GenG of doing something like this so makes you wonder

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Leaking the scrim vods is what I expected from the Korean team... Frost was right all along (as the title suggests)

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Can i get a link to what frost said pls. I just know this today

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i think frost was referring to DRX in this tweet after DRX lost a match
https://x.com/FrosTvsYou/status/1784611361164857707

and this is what frost said in reply to jake sin's reply to elevated's tweet
https://x.com/FrosTvsYou/status/1909846547686473897

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Did All kr teams do that ? Scrim vod leak ?

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maybe or maybe not. we dont really know since we are not insiders to this information

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Teams need to think twice to scrim any of the kr teams before the pacific games fr

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idk mann, but T1 is winning without this kind of leaks, korean is still powerhouse at this stage and i don't think they need all of this shit..

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Nobody here questioning korean prowess in Valorant. But ethic and manners are still need to be respected in the professional ecosystem.. I think GenG still gonna win againts GE with or without Scrim leaks.. But scrim leaks are still bad nonetheless, Especially if the rumour about scrim shared between KR teams were true.

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I've heard about this case since last year, but I haven't seen any sanctions or anything from riot. att the very least, can we have some evidence or a clue?

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nah he was talking abt geng on this one, but i think he did accusing drx as well cz buzz responded to his accusations, seems like drx denied it tho considering how mad termi at frost after that

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I remember al0x saying they stop scrimming with drx in 2023. possibly this reason.

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all regions do this its just that korea is bad at hiding it

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I dont think every team do this, sharing their scrimm game. I dont think Talon / TS / RRQ shared their scrimm VODS to each other because theyre not that close tbh.

If any of them face 1 KR teams and each KR teams shared each VOD to each other its kinda fucked up imo, they shouldnt do that

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or maybe korea just does it more often that's why there are rumors

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gotta be good at hiding it if all they got is rumors and have never posted proof in over a year

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People just hate for his arrogant behaviour not many people like him talk confidently

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Yeah actually like he's very confident about his stuff plus i used to be a hater before but this year I watched his podcast with babybay and realised he's a really smart and good coach

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My mind regarding frost changed when he explained the Soop exclusive stuff he explained it very clearly

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asians hate confidence

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Korea's secret I knew it T1 masters win was undeserved

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bangkok is not our home 😂

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downvoted for the truth wtf

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Apparently, we scrimmed against G2 Academy?

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ooo drama me love some spicy takes :p

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ngopi gan

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pacific will be dominated by korea. Out of all ascesion team nongshim dominating.

only fix is separate korea and give sea their own region

this is getting boring. Ig there will be two kr teams in toronto again like bangkok.

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Huh ? did you see the Indo team boom matches

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NS look shaky

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there are few team doing podcast hinting about this before, just saying lmao

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i mean VCT being in korea alone its a huge advantage, cuz sometimes its funny to me when ppl asking like how its korea so good ?

i'm not denying their talent they got it for sure but VCT was held in their country was definitely helps a lot in terms of Player growing and everything, If you are a tier 2 korean player you can easily get a good scrim partners etc. there is a desire to pursue because you are surrounded by a good environment cause VCT is literally right in front of their faces.

Success & luck is when opportunity meets ability

the opportunity is the one that its hard to get. Success is not merely a matter of chance it happens when opportunity crosses paths with preparation and ability. What many call 'Success' is often the result of being ready when the right moment comes.

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Real.

Thats what i've been saying but the response i always get is SEA teams just need to "git gud"

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The general manager of the Talon team said he saw the evidence. I hope he'll release the evidence very soon!

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Holy GenG and korean teams get kicked mid 2025

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KR will always be RIOT golden boys. they will do anything to keep them up top. including killing the potential of rivals, and not doing anything about scrim leaks

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Frost and Talon's managers said they had already submitted the evidence to Riot, but they said they could not sanction it under the regulations.
I think it's better to disclose the evidence that Talon has and urge Riot to revise the regulations than to just talk about it now.
I'm a fan who wants to see fair Valorant competition!

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may be riot korea also envolved

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Why are these people so angry without any evidence? just Frost's yapping?

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frost has been accusing kr teams for scream leaking for around 1 year, but he hasn't show us a single evidence lmao
even termi, stax denied it
just one single evidence and they are out.
really curious why he is not giving us the evidence :)

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frost said check eveidence in inbox to Jake sin(who was handling apac league). literally they don't want to turn down korean orgs. thats why. may be Jake sin envolved also

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I mean, it's funny that a guy who's been yapping all day since last year hasn't been able to release a piece of evidence on X or youtube lol

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hehe444

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so you don't know korean law? and normally some of the countries ignore proof if they published on social

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hashan

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Is it hard to post on social? there are so many people who trust frost's yapping like you

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He can’t since riot would also take actions against him like what happened to chet when he released old vods

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yeah sure he has the evidence and Jake sin is involved
theb how about reporting to Riot? not apac?
how about showing to public?
how about giving us a single clue and people will truly believe him?
Just a single evidence and they are out and he hasn't been doing shit
but still we give him the benefit of doubt ;)
very reasonable

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hehe444

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pretty sure they don't want kick from league or 12 month unreasonable ban

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sure, it's all assumption
like I don't get it
you guys are making too many ifs just to make frost's argument work

kr teams are scream leaking
-> where's the proof?
-> he has it
-> then why they are not ban?
-> he has sent it to Jake sin
-> then why kr teams are not banned?
-> bc Riot is biased towrds kr teams
-> how about showing to public then Riot has to ban them
-> still Riot wouldn't ban them
it's all assumption and ifs to make the logic work
yeah I'd rather believe that he doesn't have the clue :), which seems more truthful

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COOKED

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You are an idiot if he shows to public he will be banned

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realis

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definitely less idiot than those who believe words tha has no proof :)

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I remmember back them prx stopped scrimming drx. they said they won't scrm them again. but i though because of them are main rivals. but may be this is the reason

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DRX is one of the earliest team with academy

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Guys, please bring me some evidence and start talking shit, please.

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😂 sea fans running rabid looking for excuses

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Funny how calling out Possible problems is suddenly making excuses. How is it an 'excuse' when a coach that inside VCT scene point out problems? If something genuinely goes wrong, it’s normal to call it out and want things fixed

If anything goes wrong, it’s called accountability. Fixing issues helps everyone, but I guess some people only care about sportsmanship when they're winning

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If it was the other way around koreans would be so rabid but it isnt happening to them so who cares. Right?

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:)

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Dumbass im not talking about scrim leaks. But everyone using this opportunity to talk about all the other excuses. You the first one here talking about homefield advantage. Talking about scrim this scrim that. Bum ass tier 2 sea teams scrim pacific franchise teams all the time too. SPG farmed jakarta ascension. Geng won in shanghai while barely playing scrims. T1 won in bangkok what? Did t1 academy go in and do a scout for them? There are so many excuses but 0 evidence. Lemme see some hardcore evidence. I already know BAN is the snitch probably. If they are scrim leaking they ll be punished and people who must be removed shall be removed. But excuses aint healthy for u yall.

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Bro why are you so mad? XDDDDDDDDDDDD😂
All I said was if there are problems, they should be fixed. You’re the one writing essays about SEA teams, homefield advantage, scrim conspiracies, and crying about whatever else you dreamed up.

about what i said that's just my opinion, its not an excuse, blud saying excuse to everything💀, i'm not allowed to have an opinion too? damn how generous of you

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you been rambling about home field advantage for a while now and listed reasons but SEA has the same access to those reasoning.
Besides scrim leaks and visa issues yall just be complaining to complain. Like you guys are capable of competing and beating us but most of u choose to feel bad for yourselves. But yea I agree scrim leakers should be punished but I doubt its true

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it's not rumbling bro, thats the reality

if you live in Indo as a pro player or young kid that want to be a pro player its so hard because their is no environment around that make you grow as a player, a lot of indo younger player prefer continue their studies rather than being a pro

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Dude location is not a problem. Thats just excuses if u cant handle being paid thousands to go live abroad and play games thats a YOU ISSUE

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how they get paid thousands to live abroad when they can't even find a good team to pay them or leave Indo in the first place Tier 2 is dead bro, It's easy to call it an excuse when it's not your life getting uprooted

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Bro tier 2 sea lacking investment isnt koreas problem lol. Thats something u guys need to figure out w riot. And today is today and tomorrow is unpredictable. We never know if SEA can win something but people need to stop saying korea is part of the reason they cant be successful????

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Yeah true, not exactly at the same time but make sense

honeslty tho Elevated saying thing about GENG academy and assume them of leaking scrims to GENG, i think it's just him being to much overthinking

When your team keeps losing over and over, you naturally start to question everything. Maybe he's just frustrated, Lets be honest tho GENG doesn't even need that scrim leaks in the first place lol

continue thread →

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slander is not called accountability. The schizophrenic delusions in the podcast are an 'excuse', not pointing out problem.
It's been over a year since he first made the claim and he has never shown any evidence. No matter what you say, until the proof comes, that's it.

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oops tweet got deleted, seems like Riot doesn’t like that lmao
https://x.com/ElevatedSpeaks/status/1909978516252426426

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Of course korea is riot's golden child

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they hate us cus they aint us 😴

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https://www.vlr.gg/post/4748146/fuck-riot

I suggest to keep an open mind to the perspective at hand, tbh

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okay bang