If navi lose tommorow

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Nef0r0

pack up the bag, kick everyone and hand over the slot to team spirit/mouz. crazy how they had the money to buy an fpx four but then couldn't do anything with it

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they bought out fpx roster for very cheap cause the org wanted them to stay together
botvi is a shit org should get replcaced by team spirit fs

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I just don't understand their direction:

''we don't want to deal business with russians, which is why we won't sell our cs players to russian orgs and won't sign any russians
''proceeds to buy shao and suygetsu''
''keep shao for like 2 years now
refuses to buy monesy EVEN THOUGH HE IS THE PERFECT FIT FOR THEIR CS ROSTER
Wtf is this org

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nobody cares about NaVi valorant bcs everybody knows they're shit

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Nef0r0

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sh1ro won't come and there is no need for him. monesy has an expiring contract, was brought up in their youth system and is not pro-war and is currently signed for g2. but navi won't sign him cuz ''we don't want to deal business with russians''

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nono I deleted the shiro part bcs I mixed things between Navi and Team spirit for some reason.
Idk much abt Navi but I expect them to stick with this roster until things really become muddy, If they change their roster they might consider getting rid of other players than Wonderful depending on how things evolve no?

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Nef0r0

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thing is, w0nderful isn't just choking, it's not like s1mple where he is the goat when it comes to group stages but he crumbles in the finals, w0nderful just has 0 confidence. wrong crosshair placement, bad positioning, tries flicking too much but can't hit them. Like they had the semis vs spirit in katowice, close overtime on dust 2, and magixx (by far spirit's worst player) just wide swings into w0nderful, 0 flashes, 0 smokes and just deletes him THREE TIMES out of 6 rounds in overtime. Just a typical w0nderful moment for you: https://youtu.be/_NKWvOjIWBI?t=12910
0 flashes, shit buy against him, teammates set up in positions which basically require him to kill and he just dies and gives away a CRUCIAL round.
''until things really become muddy''
They are muddy. Don't let their playoff appearances fool you, it's just farming against low level teams like furia, get into playoffs, meet someone like spirit/mongolz/ef and get shit on. If they remove anyone other than w0nderful then I just wish for this org to suffer the same faith as fnatic and nip in cs:
aleksi is the best IGL of 2024, jL is a god at big games, b1t is the most consistent anchor in the world and iM is the perfect space creator for this lineup. put monesy into w0nderful's shoes and this team contends with vitality on tournament basis and shits on spirit

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MrBlooBloom

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Man I had seen the wiffs w rifles but this one is really rough, the peek isn't even fast nor does he gets killed quickly. Embarassing.
But I was suggesting that the system as a whole seems to not be working anymore for NaVi, W0nderful isn't the only player who has been disapointing. JL is embarassing as well (even though he has more to defend himself than W0nderful)

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system works but it requires a consistent awper. NaVi got their biggest win with w0nderful still being good. It's just that something has changed in him since Cologne. 0 Confidence. This navi need an X-factor, someone to create a spark for the fire, and monesy is just that guy

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MrBlooBloom

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Idk, monesy is obviously the best answer to that problem, but I've read (pbb on HLTV) that Navi have always though W0nderful has a great potential so they'll want to stick w him as much as possible. I don't really like him so idc but that's pbb the reason why they won't get Monesy

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Nef0r0

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w0nderful isn't even the best ukrainian awper, it's jambo and r1nkle

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Kirya

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wouldnt expect any less from an org that sponsors people who beat up and kill innnocents on daily basis and org that also forces their players to stay in uncomfortable conditions just because of nationality ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Nef0r0

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ay let's keep w0nderful even though he is a certified choke artist, but we won't sign monesy who would give us a vitality contending roster, naaaah, let's keep xqc

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Kirya

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pretty sure their owner is literally related to crypto scams and some other shady shit, they probably dont even give a fuck
also they put a huge sum of money into mf hiro

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MrBlooBloom

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was he that expensive though? He is still a rookie w a few months of experience, has proven he is really good but probably doesn't change much things

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Kirya

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apparently they overpaid to get him sooner and confirm him
mortadelo made threads during off season translating streams of spanish leakers and it was there

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MrBlooBloom

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man why did he accept that?? Surely he would have had offers from better teams w how impressive he looked

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Kirya

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I mean navi offered a shit ton of money for him
thats why

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Yuniee44

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why did he accept an offer that massively overpaid him? No idea honestly

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MrBlooBloom

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nah it still doesn't make sense imo, but we're not in his head so..

continue thread →

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Nef0r0

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ah so they sign mid one-season wonders for big money but can't splash the cash for monesy?

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dont act stupid. There is a huge difference between hiro money and m0nesy money.

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Nef0r0

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and there is a huge difference between how important val and cs are for navi

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Nef0r0

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yep :)
bro bought several hotels in Kyiv, probably to set up events whenever the war ends

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Kirya

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wow bro :00
What a surprise
totally not a money laundering org

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Nef0r0

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I honestly want B8 to somehow git gud and shit on them with their cs rejects (npl and headtrick), I would laugh like a hyena if I have seen that shit

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Kirya

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real tbh
better org than botvi thats for sure

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They're probably already getting tossed. I just wonder what happens to the current Ascension teams if they genuinely do open up more ascension slots.

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Nef0r0

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perhaps one slot for every region winner and no ascension tournament for the region?

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florescent clears N0VI

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trve

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Sad to see them massively fell off, Their roster seemed decent too..

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Nef0r0

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the entire org runs on their cs team who just happen to have the greatest coach in all of counter strike.

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navi 26-0

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kicking doombros will be their downfall