They will use their money to make BR real super team, with real coach, and scrims vs stronger NA teams . NIP will be hope for BR VAL in 2022
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I think like this: if they did something wrong and it was in the rules they have to be penalized yes! The problem is that according to VK murizz (who said this on twitter to a guy called katraka from the gamelanders organization) this camera itself wasn't in the rulebook (from what I understood from the tweet that was it), that it couldn't be used, but let's assume he's lying. Riot should have paused and everything would be resolved (just like in Furia's game), and the exploit was clear (there's no excuse that the judges didn't see it, even the fans noticed). Overall I think it's Riot's fault that she wasn't transparent with her fans. I don't understand why the dumb kids were swearing at Acend's bros, Sorry for the bad English I'm still learning.
Then it should be blamed on the staff on VK who didn't hear about giants or x10 being penalized, despite every other region hearing and not using that cam.
Like, the x10 and giants punishment wasn't really small either. It was wide spread through the subreddit, twitter, and talked about on the streams. If NA and EU heard about x10 being punished. No excuse for BR saying they wernt away.
However riot should have paused at the first instance of the cam. Waiting until the end then just to punish, is dumb. Should have decided then and there if they wanted to punish them, or replay round. Riot made the issue 10x worse for everyone.
I 100% agree that Riot should have paused the game right than. They said that since it wasn't blatantly obviously a bug, the refs sometime miss things like that, plus Ascend didn't complain right away. The ref being able to miss it, leads me to believe that he may not have known about it, which would support VK argument that they as well didn't know. I truly feel that all player, coaches, and refs have a responsibility to know all the game breaking bugs. With the rulebook specifics, the way I understood it was that there was a rule saying no cypher cams can be used that exploit texture glitches, and they used a different example than the Breeze one. Im not positive on that, but if that is true, they just need to list them out so there's no confusion.
My opinion is that VK should have absolutely been punished since they are responsible for knowing the rules. However, I think context matters and the fact that Riot took so damn long to make a ruling, I felt that the initial win should have stood. It was a unique scenario and overall Riot folded, and with Furia, Riot absolutely fucked them, which is honestly just fucked.
You're both right, Riot sinned a lot in this championship (if we were to take the fact that it already has experience in dealing with championships). They were very intransparent with these bans and with the rulebook, but if what you said here is really true: "the way I understood it was that there was a rule saying in cypher cams can be used that exploit texture glitches" . So VK really deserved to be punished (but Riot has to be more consistent with their punishments, all 3 teams suffered different punishments for the same exploit). But I still feel that Riot needs to be more transparent in this matter of rulebook with the community (I don't know if this rulebook is public and if everyone can see it). In the end I think that the ones who were harmed the most were us fans who lost the spectacle of jetts that would be in this group.
The rule book can be an easy fix imo. IDK how many cypher glitch cams there are but at least give more than 1 example. And if you use 1 example at least use the one that has gotten 2 teams dq'd already. And the inconsistencies is what makes it just confusing overall. I feel part of it was due to Riot trying to listen to feedback. Cuz at first they just gave Ascend the win and due to the feedback they changed it which was a good decision. However, it should have been caught relatively immediately, and when it wasn't, their initial decision should have just been start map 3 over 7-0. Riot just needs to find a balance between having a backbone and listening to feedback, or just make the right decision initially.
Man, to be honest, I don't think the good thing about NIP is coming is to make a good 2022, I think the good thing about NIP is coming here is that they will get 5 promises here from the scenario (which I can guarantee there are many players like that here) and start working with them over the years. Just like FURIA is doing in valorant and in CS GO. I think that Brazil, as well as in the other games that they have highlighted, won't start winning anything in these first years (who knows they won't), but I think the great merit of Brazil is to work with these talents from our scenario so that in the future let us become a major region. But that's just a silly opinion, maybe they just won't win anything at all ;-;, it's only with time we'll find out.
Like here in Brazil we have many skilled players like: heat, mwzera, sacy, sadhak, jonn, aspas, teddy, xand, khalil, qck, murizz, myssen, nyang, nzr and gtn (maybe I forgot someone else), but all of these here have the potential to be able to compete internationally, but they need good orgs to work with (the mental issue, routine and stuff) and for them to gain experience with the best teams out there.
I just hope that what our community did on twitter doesn't do it again (man, that was a shame to the Brazilian), of talking shit and sending death messages to players. That way the victory will be deserved (thank goodness Brazil didn't win anything here, because I think our community didn't deserve it).
So we'll have a taste of healthy victory.
NIP, like Furia, will probably focus on a long-term project (I think this is the only way out for the Br region to stand out internationally). So I wouldn't have the expectations that Brazilians will win something in 2022 and maybe not even in 2023, but it depends because only in this break from the masters in Berlin to the world have Brazilian teams been able to face the best teams in the world. (or almost). And look, this was the first time that Brazilian teams came prepared for a championship (knowing the meta and having weeks before, almost a month, to be able to adapt to the EMEA and NA style of play), if we take that into account, and if the region continues to evolve at the same rate, it may have a title for the Brazilian region in 2022 or 2023.
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