Visa issues sabotaged all brazilian teams

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alienista1

There's no denying it.

If it weren’t for visa issues, FUR wouldn’t have performed so terribly in Kick Off.

If it weren’t for visa issues, 2G could have replaced many pieces in their roster with academy talents like Basic.

If it weren’t for visa issues, MIBR wouldn’t have been forced to import Verno after Nzr left the team due to health issues.

If it weren’t for visa issues, FUR wouldn’t have been forced to sign Pryze after Mwzera left the team due to health issues.

If it weren’t for visa issues, LOUD wouldn’t have been forced to play without their psychologist, who is one of the most important pieces of the team.

Visa issues have literally negatively impacted EVERY brazilian team.

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Mca

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Americas must end

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shesh_

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forced to import verno

are we deadass

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Cryptic88

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https://www.thespike.gg/valorant/news/frod-interview-mibr-verno-nzr-valorant/5961

op is making shit up. coach gave different reasons for the swap

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alienista1

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Well, Nzr turned down 2G due to health issues, so I thought he left MIBR for the same reason. If that’s not the case, my mistake.

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burritx

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"you guys wanted a brazillian, I wanted a brazillian, but my hands were tied" - fRoD

do your research next time bro

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Cryptic88

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"But if we want to win and win Champions, we need to take a risk. We look at the market and think about who is the best player regardless of language, country or anything else. And it's Verno by far."

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brahianv

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nice catch brazilians want every excuse they can find to explain how their teams are shit

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burritx

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mibr is good bro fym

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brahianv

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my comment has nothing to do with mibr my guy just brazilians fans want to extrapolate what frod said to explain why 2glue, loud and f0ria are shit

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burritx

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"Everyone has a clause, everyone needs a visa, we don't have much time... this trade is difficult."

are you stupid

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brahianv

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thats just cope especially furia one they had all the time to improve... Loud is also cope they did not have problem to scrims in america and they had long time to improve i only could only buy the 2g excuse

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alienista1

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Bro, they arrived in the U.S. from their trip and had to play the next day, jet lag and all. Okay, their performance at Kickoff was terrible, but at the very least, it was understandable given the context.

The worst part is that they didn’t even get the chance to show their true level of play. Mwzera (their star player) had an unexpected situation, and they were forced to sign an initiator who had been kicked from 2G. I don’t think they had enough time.

LOUD was definitely the least affected, but they still were. You underestimate the impact their psychologist has.

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bro thinks the psychologist is a wizard

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alienista1

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LOUD's players were the ones who said the psychologist is one of their key pieces, not me. And honestly, seeing how they've been choking in games, it seems true

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Agreed. American visa system has fucked many people and current administration is not helping

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messithegoat

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furias only win in kickoff was from yfp core

2g is going to be bottom 3 team no matter what

verno is better than any player in brazillian tier 2

same story for furia, bottom 3 team, no tier 2 player in brazil is saving that squad

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NRGSUPERFAN

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hope they move it to another location other than the us cuz this shit sucks. no wonder SA teams keep recycling the same players over and over again.

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31Raven

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move to can pls i want year-round events not just masters toronto

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NRGSUPERFAN

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can would be better option tbf since everyone moved cali for the matches anyway why not just move to toronto?

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brahianv

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Mwzera health problem is just furia being so incompetent that the players dont wanna be there

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Yistyy

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Also visa issues prevented EG from winning masters tokyo, as demon1 arrived at the very last minute. EG were scrimming with REFORMED the whole time and the whole tokyo game plan was around him because demon1 had visa issues. They assumed he wasn't going to show up. They changed roles and everything, and EG were still so damn good and able to make it to the finals. So they would have won back to back masters and champions if not for visa issues.

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against prime FNC? i think ur smoking something

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Yistyy

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Just look at how close this game was and consider my earlier point.

https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf/?game=132712&tab=overview

And in the finals they would have map advantage so EG in 5.

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yeah ur reaching here cant lie. even if they had been scrimming with someone else they had ENOUGH TIME to prepare for the match against FNC seeing as they beat both loud and TL.

so using that excuse when they were playing the best valorant of their lives up to that FNC match is reaching imo

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Yistyy

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disagree, boostio and potter said in interviews that the gameplans at tokyo were on the fly and there wasn't enough time to change it around. only at champions did they truly have enough time to fully prepare.

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brahianv

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you are speaking facts

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NRGSUPERFAN

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those plans on the fly were legit perfect from potter and i dont think she wouldve been able to do anything else in that short amount of time if they had scrimmed with demon1.

prior to them going to tokyo they also lost to nrg 2x and loud in the span of 2 weeks didnt they have time to scrim then? imo everyone in that team just peaked at the right time.

and again even if i agree they wouldve done better (with demon1 scrimming), i do not think it still was possible to beat prime FNC with leo and alfa being 1 and 2 respectively coming into that tournament i just cant see it. final mightve been close but FNC wouldve won the long game.

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Yistyy

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We'll never know for sure but imo they they would have had a good chance of beating them just due to how close their matches were while EG had disadvantages, such as lack of prep time, which in turn led to EG not getting map ban in grand final.

It's just an interesting what-if, I wouldn't say it's a crazy take for you to still have fnatic winning given how dominant they were though.

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NRGSUPERFAN

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you kinda gave me a big question mark with ur previous comment but i also watched every FNC match that year so i am very biased lol.

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Yistyy

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I feel you, I'm also very biased haha.

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fnatic was at their peak in tokyo, nobody was beating them

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Yistyy

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They were great but they almost lost to a nerfed EG. At full strength it would be wraps.

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catNmouse

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they 3-0’d them in the finals

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Yistyy

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with 3 close maps + map disadvantage + nerfed like i said earlier.

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lotus was not close

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Yistyy

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1st half was pretty close. but either way my point still stands, 2 close maps and one 13-8 fine.

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31Raven

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“if there werent visa issues furia wouldnt have been shit in kickoff” is crazy when their only win was when they didnt have visas

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foythvlr

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look i agree visa situation suck but half of these situations were either positive or just untrue lmao the only two arguable are loud and 2G basic

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alienista1

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I don't think there is a comparison between Mwzera and Pryze. And the situation with LOUD's psychologist is real, right?

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foythvlr

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yeah pryze is unironically playing better than mw (although mw has a bigger ceiling i think?)

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foythvlr

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furia with a month of training post-kickoff still looks bad (althought better)

basic wouldnt really upgrade this team yet besides him being a future goat

nzr didnt left the team for health issues and besides visa severely limiting their options verno was likely the best choice they could have currently

pryze played pretty fine in his first match

loud is the one i agree but it wouldnt fully fix their problems

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brahianv

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loud had the most prep of all brazilian teams them being ass is their fault also mibr the one that's doing well only had few scrims with verno and they look miles better than loud.

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foythvlr

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i agree but i do think that loud psychologist is pretty good and him not being there is kinda nerfing them (but like i said it wouldn't solve most of their problems)

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alienista1

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Well, that's true. I think FUR would be better if it weren't for MW's health issue, but that's just pure speculation.

I agree that Basic would solve the problem immediately, but the situation with 2G would be much better without the visa issues.

Yes, I think it falls into a fake news 😅

Well, maybe I'm really underestimating Pryze a lot.

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2G and Loud are the only viable ones Furia is just fucking ass their only win in kickoff was with a t2 NA roster vs 2Glue.

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brahianv

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The only excuse i could buy is from 2g situation the rest of brazilian teams is just cope and being fraudulent

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trmnl

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2glue and glueria cope is not healthy