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#1
gamergirl

is nrg just keeping him hostage until the dinosaur and his girlfriend retire?

i dont see why they are just benched tbh, verno has said practically nothing

I don't get why NRG is above developing him and is instead focusing on a washed igl and players who have kind of a limited ceiling together, kinda odd

if he isnt unsaveable SEN should man up and bring the duo back, johnqt is better on senti anyways

#2
NYANYANYANYAN
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he's replacing jingg

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VxpxFX
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Would be a massive downgrade

#56
guuz
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PRX bonkar, and we keep alecks as assistant coach so he can still slam the desk

#3
Shadow_Monarch
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Its not that hard to improve comms. When Verno develops better comms, he'll be a huge asset on the next Tier1 team he joins. Fuck NRG, they're trash. #SaveS0m

#19
gamergirl
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s0m doesnt want to be saved bro.

#43
SAMPV6
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s0m happy gurgling FNS

#37
nobody___100
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then he would have improved it in the 5 months he’s been at NRG dumbass

#38
gamergirl
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i think verno should be more toxic if anything

verno was trying tough love with fns, he just couldnt take the heat

#40
nobody___100
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if you can’t comm as initiator, you might as well retire 💔

#41
gamergirl
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kinda hard to comm when you have to babysit a man with early onset dimentia

#45
Shadow_Monarch
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FNS fan? Keep coping.

#42
swf
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why does everyone thinks he needs to comm? a team doesnt need 5 people talking, leo barely spoke and was the best in the world. Only golds giving this narrative..

#46
nobody___100
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"leo barely spoke" 🤡
leo fnatic 2nd caller stupid

#47
gamergirl
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derke chronicle comm more

#48
washedradiant
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Where did you get this info

#58
swf
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where did you get this info?

#51
aexbigb0t
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s0m doesn't give a fuck lowkey

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shrike-
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i mean there’s still shit we don’t know, it’s kinda been made obvious that verno has a crazy ego i doubt many players wanna take a chance on him

unfortunately it’s probably back to tier 2 with him

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zeusaura
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i mean every pro have their ego is just they don't show it in public

#9
gamergirl
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dapr complimented his discipline

verno is prob just upset that he has played 99% of his career 4v5

prob expected more from NRG

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if that’s his mindset then he doesn’t deserve to be in tier 1, it’s really that simple lol

#17
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i'd rather have a player who's highly competitive and honest with teammates than a IGL who at best goes -10, at worst goes -40 and usually goes -20,

if he wasnt shit talking mada, verno was justified tbh

#35
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obviously i’m not defending fns but if you’re gonna be toxic to your team regardless of how good you think you are and how bad you think your team is, you gotta check yourself first bc that mentality is gonna make you the weak link if you actually get onto a better team

it’s definitely something he can fix but i think until then he’s gotta sit this one out. either way idk any americas team willing to drop their initiator player rn

#36
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sacy was toxic and has a champs, fns is a drag queen and has a virgin masters

#MAMBAMENTALITY

there is simply levels to it, some orgs prioritize nice people and some prioritize winners, its just a shame, i like NRG as an org because of ronaldo in the past sadly they just have shit management

#24
windwine
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bro i mean i love him but if you go -30 and -15 plus constantly in todays when your calling is a level above the rest its kinda hard to ever win titles again but yea verno prob didnt have the best comms but in another team he prob can thrive

#11
Bigfish
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Not about public its about how you interact with teammates which apparently nrg think he fails in that department

#15
gamergirl
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from what dapr said verno prob just shit talked a shitty teammate

imagine u got one of the biggest NA talents ever and he calls a shit player shit, just replace the shit player

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have you not watched anything from the NRG interviews? Verno clearly has an attitude problem. Its one thing to develop a player and another to babysit. Hes a talented player but to my understanding it was also a team decision not necessarily a management decision.

They have tried getting rid of FNS once and it failed miserably. Who would you even replace him with as IGL?

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is FNS going to win a title with NRG? if the answer is no there's no reason to pick him over a 18 year old who he has beef with

the only reason I'd get it is if mada and verno just don't like eachother, if its anyone else, id pick verno and mada

also, bonkar isnt a bum coach, he wouldnt have brought verno if he had no work ethic and beefs with teammates/attitude issues, its just not plausible

99% chance he had a personal altercation and NRG had to give a PR response, it just is not likely for someone like that to be highly regarded by a coach with that much experience,

#16
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you say it as if its easy to just replace the IGL and find a new one. s0m is also most likely a package deal with FNS so if one goes so does the other. Nobody really knows what happened within the team but with the videos that NRG have posted verno just seems like he doesn't give a single fuck.

#18
gamergirl
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verno doesnt give a single fuck but dapr said his discipline was insane

yeah ight bro, this an agenda, verno is a outsider coming into the T1 nepotism circlejerk

and to your point about s0m, he can go. that is just as much as an attitude problem as verno, hes the best smokes in NA, but there are other players out there, ones that wont make you keep a washed igl who averages -20

#21
darklord69
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dapr also said he felt like verno hated him 😂

#22
gamergirl
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thats mamba mentality

#25
windwine
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also said thanks to him for doing that

#28
Shadow_Monarch
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The NRG squad failed due to Demon1's roles, Ethan IGL, and team chem. Not because FNS wasn't there. FNS is here now and still same old bot fragging. You expect him to do better in Stage 1 with Brawk on the team now? We'll see. Guarantee he'll get another -25 again this year though.

#44
vexdia
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igl who cant frag in the big 25 is crazy all the good igls rn can frag
Stax
Munchkin
nobody
Sayf (altho last game was a stinker)
NATS
Mako
others too but too lazy to name
basically the teams that are actually qualifying to events and winning them have fragging igls

#55
jamONE
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100%, said this before and I'll say it again. Competition grew from when this game was first introduced. Can't just IGL without killing ability anymore. It's a liability.

#8
SaltyMcNulty
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Kaplan is not in favor of changing roster mid season and he trusts Zellsis a lot. Kaplan isn't gonna drop anyone, not even if tenz were to comeback let alone verno.

#20
gamergirl
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literally every team is against this, still happens

#23
SaltyMcNulty
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Not every team. Many teams would reshuffle before split because this is the only time you can shuffle players without just ruining your season. Also, NRG did this last year as well, they did it at a worse time even, it's common for them.

#30
gamergirl
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when did s1mon join edg bro, anyways like i said every coach says that theyre against it because its sabotage if they dont, why would you tell your players they arent safe lmfao

#32
SaltyMcNulty
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I am not against making moves mid season, I'm, just saying kaplan wouldn't do it. He is scarred by 2023 SEN and also he's not the type of guy that bothers with tweaking rosters, he believes in developing the players he already has.

#10
goat1594
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I was praying SR would sign P0PPIN as IGL and so Verno could join RANKERS

#13
shrike-
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who igls rankers then. inspire???????

#14
goat1594
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Fuck it sure

#26
TheAceGamer30
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Sen is not getting that mid toxic ego player lmao.

#27
glittering_yard
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but thats N4rrate already

#39
TheAceGamer30
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Yeah that’s why it’s better they don’t get him . It’s pointless move

#29
gamergirl
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i was asking people with higher than room temp iq sadly

thanks for being here tho bud!

#34
Numbhands
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But what he said was true

#31
goat1594
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I don't think Verno to Brawk is as much of a downgrade as people are making it out to be. Verno has higher potential and reached higher peaks in T2, but I think Brawk can be very good for them. especially since his comms are way better than Verno. The more concerning part is going from Bonkar to Mikes, in my opinion. If it was Verno for Brawk while still having Bonkar, I wouldn't be worried at all, but I need Mikes to prove me wrong. Clearly, FNS and the team wasn't seeing eye to eye with Bonkar but I still think he's a much better coach than Mikes.

#33
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I actually rate mikes, hes good strategically, always has been i just think hes a bit of a weak head coach, bonkar is more of a leader. i just dont think hes a good HEAD coach, so probably hoping fns will do more

its important to remmeber mikes created the first envy core that was good for a long time, that entire system was his, chet just joined afterwards

#52
goat1594
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That's fair, and not to discredit Mikes accomplishments, but I don’t place much value on things from 3 years ago at this point, the game has evolved so much but I do think it shows he's a smart guy and has good work ethic. I agree that he’s solid strategically, and that’s probably all NRG needs. I think s0m, FNS, and Ethan are strong enough leaders that they don’t necessarily need a head coach who leads in that way. It reminds me of when SEN switched from Sykko to Kaplan. While Kaplan has since proven to be strong both strategically and in leadership, when he first replaced Sykko, it felt like he was more focused on strategy.

#49
Silent7218
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Dinosaur and gf is crazy 🤣🤣

#53
tiAsunNS
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didnt he hit fns? like physically? or do i have dementia

#54
shermie
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it definitely wasnt just a decision made on a whim, manager probably got word or saw that the other 4 were having issues with Verno, and decided to bench him. Bonkar being benched too was prob collateral.

#57
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if i saw that it was mada he had issues with id delete the thread, otherwise if im manager id drop the bums and keep mada and v0rn0

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