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#1
zephyrara

dreams definitely losing this BCOS everyones just hating on him and glazing tf out of Tommy altho I think both of their points are equally shit and it's just word against word but since dream is more popular to hate on he's gonna get cooked

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shrike-
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why the fuck do they even hate each other, what even happened

#3
zephyrara
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dyw a tldr

#7
xhaetae
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yes

#4
Hades_Loves_Rb
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dream is a minor toucher
tommyinnit is cringe

I think its clear whos worse in this scenario

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zephyrara
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nah im pretty sdure the allegationsa re false

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the allegations against dream were proven false. Tommy is indeed cringe for joking about something as serious as pdf allegations

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cameran
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i thought dream was joking arounbd withj tommy with all that beef n shit, guess not damn
L by both of them

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z12
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dream is losing this because he is acting really immature and is showing everyone how petty he is lmfao

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also sharing skephalo porn with 16 year olds lmfao and everyone is bringing up the george thing

#12
DSGFan
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L take

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z12
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ok

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if you want to understand how braindead the people supporting tommy are, look at Kwite's most recent tweet, has 50k likes. It's a slur way worse than the narrate word. But imagine what would happen if dream said it lol

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Im still supporting tommy? dream inserted himself into internet beef he wasnt involved in and pissed off a large part of the old mcyt fanbase. The beef is really boring but i think it is more that people are collectively bringing up everything dream has done because everyone is done with dream

also ihni who kwite is tbh assuming he isn't straight i think its ok to say dream on the other hand is straight and was queerbaiting his fanbase so there is a difference

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Buddy, either the slurs are bad, or we allow the people who the slur affects to "reclaim" them.

If you believe it's all bad, then no one gets a pass, even if it's your favorite youtuber doing the heaven-mandated activity of shitting on Dream.

If you believe in the "reclaim" philosophy, then guess what, Dream is diagnosed with ADHD & autism i.e. he has neurological disorders i.e. he gets to reclaim the narrate word. And Dream's never used the other slur, and who the fuck are you to know about another person's sexuality lmao.

I don't even like dream's content and can't stand to watch it, but at this point the double standards applied against him are fucking insane, and I keep up with this bullshit since it always gets pushed to trending on youtube/twitter.

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dream said he wasnt gay on stream in his response stream lmfao?

I think the context matters reclaiming a slur is for the affected group to use it in a way to make sure it makes the word less dehumanizing in this context he is throwing out a slur in the same way people are asked not to use the slur I think the way he used it to insult people rather than lift them up (which is the point of reclaiming) is what is problematic about this.

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yeah id rather watch tommys vids despite how cringe he is because of nostalgia while dream hardly posts anymore and when he does its usually not my cup of tea.

but i hate the way people are glazing tommy although he barely addressed shit, instead just saying "shame on you" 50 times.

tommy also keeps taking jabs at dream, talking shit about him elsewhere, while dream is trying to be more straight forward i feel. Although dream was definitely being abit immature, i think that tommy is kinda just clout chasing and since more people support him hes the "good guy"

tommy did not address stirring up shit behind the scenes between qsmp and usmp(idc abt this shit tbh) and keeps pushing already proven false allegations as his case against dream

I think he shouldnt have made drama for no reason, but i think his overall beef with tommy is more of tommys fault than dreams

i used to love the smp the only reason why im paying attention to this

#22
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100% this. The reason I'm familiar with any of this is because I really enjoyed technoblade.

I have always been aware that Tommy is somewhat two-faced. There was a funny moment back in the smp days where Techno was on Tommy's stream joking about "imagine people watching other people play video games" & Tommy was flipping out and telling techno to stop bc "they haven't clocked it" lmao. I always liked techno's content because he legitimately put effort and story telling into his videos, in contrast to a lot of other youtuber's more formulaic content, which is why techno was perfectly fine making that joke, bc he was honest with his audience.

tommy and his friend group have continually bashed dream for clout, and now go surprised pikachu face when dream gives in to the pressure for a moment lol

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A lot of Dream's points are pretty valid imo, but I agree that a whole bunch of people will continue to hate on Dream bc that's the popular thing to do.

Unless Dream says fuck it and straight up releases all the DMs with a bombshell.

#18
saebr
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aint no way we this bored

#19
Froggy0_0
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we fighting over minecraft youtuber now
nahhh
this is crazy
i'd rather watch tier 2 games than do this shit

#20
bronzil_enjoyer
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