Future of valorant comps

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Two_Percent

mark my words the best teams will play 1 duel, 2 initi, 2 smokes on most maps. here are my ideas of comps/ideas that will take over in 2025

abyss:
yoru, astra, omen/harbor, sova, kayo

haven:
yoru, kj/cypher, omen/astra, viper, fade/sova

bind:
raze, brim, viper, and some combo of gekko, skye, fade, and tejo

split:
raze, omen/astra, viper, fade, breach/tejo

lotus:
raze, omen/astra, cypher/kj, fade, viper

fracture:
raze, brim, cypher/kj, some combo of breach, kayo, tejo, fade, sova, or viper

pearl:
yoru, astra/harbor, viper, sova/fade, kayo/gekko

senti util is def good on some maps, but I think if you have enough initiation util to take space and enough smokes to fall back on, you dont really need a trip to watch flank/mid

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it's more likely teams play double orb smokes

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honestly i think viper being able to constantly cycle wall throughout a round is still very powerful on most maps

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not powerful enough in this map pool

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Two_Percent

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the only reason not to play viper is bc it means sacrificing a senti/second initi

being able to constantly put up and down her wall, manipulate rotates, have immense stopping power, and pressure over half the map is very powerful

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what is ur rank brother ?

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Two_Percent

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high enough where people dont complain about the uhaul viper wall

what's yours?

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ascendand

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Two_Percent

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spelling bee rank?

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ascendant (why ge flair ,u from india?)

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i just like the current ge team? why the talon flair, are you from thailand?

continue thread →

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that's a W response

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lie unless radiant, people complain about it even in immo

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all the things you mentioned have been consistently chipped away by nerfs to a point where the alternate playstyles have become just as powerful if not more (for different reasons)

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Two_Percent

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i think at her peak she was highly undervalued, and given that state today she would terrorize every pro game, where comps would have to be built around her.

peak viper>>>>peak chamber, jett, astra, neon, etc

viper is still very good, its just she requires actually sacrificing a second initi/main senti and isnt a braindead obvious pick on every map anymore

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jawn

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i mean yeah but unfortunately she isn't at that level anymore (cum nerf)

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viper is still incredibly powerful you're just more limited than previous patches, a good viper player can still make the game unplayable for the enemies

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composthe

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she only has 1 molly and cant pick up the orb, shes so bad rn

shes better than only harbor

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harbor on lotus instead of viper

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Viper still insane on lotus

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What you know about triple initiator vyse harbor

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cloudberry ahh comp

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Sighs
Another one of us who rejects perfect valorant

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quadruple controller + sova >>>

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Double senti when tejo exists is crazy
I feel like we're more likely to get a triple initiator comp on some of the smaller maps (bind, lotus) and double senti on abyss and pearl, other than this i agree

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lotus isnt really a small map, you kinda need the senti

i like it when teams play cypher/vyse on abyss, but i defo think that double initi + double smokes allows you to play a lot more flexibly

when it comes to pearl i think that it all comes down to how are you going to attack/defend b long, and double senti cant really attack, plus the best way to really play pearl ct side is to just burn enemy util, and then play burst retake

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Vyse Phoenix Iso Clove will be played more often now. This is just 2022-2024 comps with Tejo.

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Two_Percent

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vyse i think is alright, only good on maps where a senti isnt needed (split, bind, abyss) but is not a priority pick at all
phoenix isnt amazing, just a replacement for a flash initi for players who are more aggro
iso is a very niche pick, requiring you to play agents like yoru to make him work, but they are changing him
clove is just flat out worse than astra omen and brim on every map

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I'm so confused what do you mean the best teams will play 1 duel, 2 ini, 2 senti (no controller?) but then all your examples have controllers

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Two_Percent

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oh shit mb i meant to write smokes

bruh i was so confused why people were talking about double senti

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its so funny how people really like to pretend that jett isn't the best duelist in the game and isn't going to be shoved into every map possible

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I think it's more about overrating Yoru than downplaying Jett

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i mean yoru is great he could def be in some maps but more as a flex pick than main duelist

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Yeah that's what I mean I think people are overrating how easily he could take over a solo duelist role when he's really more of a pseudo-initiator. Which I guess is also undervaluing Jett

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on eg 2023 pearl comp, i would argue that ethan played the role of the main duelist, where demon1 was the one who followed up on entries and could go aggro bc ethan gave him so much space

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no i mean i really dont think jett is that good. her only decent ability is dash, and in a team coordinated setting the only time i think that dash shines is with an op. the only reason she is still played a bunch is because of all the old duelist players from 2021 when jett was op, but its rapidly changing now

yoru on the otherhand has 2 initi flashes, a clone that gives info and flashes, and 2 tps that he can send anywhere on the map and also fakeout.

in a coordinated team setting, i think yoru is one of the best duelists out there, and if not for raze nade and sachels being so good on bind and split, i would think that he would easily be a top5 most picked agent

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We've literally had this exact argument before on the thread about subclasses so I'm not gonna rehash it here, no offense. I think you're undervaluing the power of true dive, but that's besides the point of this thread.

I agree that teams will drop senti on most maps, especially when Harbor gets reworked. I mean, it's already pretty common. I don't think this trend of Vyse standing in as both senti and flash initiator will last long, outside of teams that intend to use Tejo a lot.

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the only reason "true dive" was so good was bc in 2021 you put your best guy on jett and now with a flash and a dart he can get 2, and it carried over for the next 2 years.

what yoru offers is so much, that when you build a team comp around him you can get that same suffocating feeling on a site that a jett or raze used to do

i mean for example, fnc haven comp has no "true dive" and it was one of the most oppressive and aggressive haven comps

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i respectfully disagree with you. jett dash is not only decent; is very good (almost broken but the timer balances it well) and unique on the way it allows her to engage and disengage quickly on first combats. rest of her kit might be underwhelming on team work, yes, but it allows her to have a lot of mobility that helps her escape and/or reposition herself in a good spot and surprise the enemy. all that is very important on most map in and out of rotation, specially op-heavy ones (i.e. haven, ascent, abyss, breeze, etc)

she's very flexible and simple which makes her fit into almost every system, that's why she is the main duelist and common ground between almost every team

of course a good yoru can be very broken on a coordinated team but i think only a few teams will have the tactical and chemistry work to play that on a year-long season

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jett dash aggressively allows you to quickly break chokes and make distance, which i think yoru tp also does, it just takes a bit more util to help him

jett dash shines on defense where she can take aggro peaks and go unpunished, but nowadays most teams might fall for it once but then start to just hard clear and punish a jett pushing up, kinda defeating a big point of her gameplay

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Riot won't and shouldn't let this happen and will 100% buff sentinels to make them feel more useful. Although I would say I get your idea but imo thats just not how it works. Trips/Senti Util is more than just flank watch, they hold down space and gather cross map info which is a lot more value than you think. Maybe its something that is more viable in ranked but I don't see it anytime soon being the case

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i just think in general agents with much more versatile playstyles will take the meta spotlight