if papi was in T1 from starting

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yayvsboaster

could hv been like mako,karon or better right?

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chrlxz

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yes but morons will tell you that anyone over 23 is finished

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ash_knuckles

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*25

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Hynix

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so i guess we're just lying now after a GC tournament of all things
"if flor was in t1 from starting, could hv been like aspas, derke, or better right?" ahhhh take

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Anzaldinho

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problem is papichulo has always been good
not sure if you actually watch t2 asian valorant or not

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ash_knuckles

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no he just wants to talk abt gc

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Anzaldinho

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sounds a little incel ish to me

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ash_knuckles

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it's his shtick, i'm not sure if he even processes any other arguments

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Hynix

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seethe and cope
you can't compare a player who was stuck in a lower tier to goats in t1

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chrlxz

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but hes been farming tier 2 for years and NEVER got a chance even when he was far and away the best in his role

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lead_water_enjoyer

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still, saying "could have been like karon or mako, or even better". This is some crazy level of IF. tier 2 and tier 1 (masters and champions) have a huge difference and we didn't even see papi playing a full season in tier 1, but got people saying he could have been better than karon or mako.

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Hynix

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no matter what player i would say the same thing
primmie for ex has much more potential than papi but i would still say it's invalid to say something like this about him

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yellow_donkey

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0 games played in tier 1 and people believing he could have been better than mako is baffling. Like we didnt even see him playing a single minute in full tier 1 season man.

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tserc

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depends

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Warlordwibz

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Papi used to play for Naos. Karon straight outta ranked.

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oof that is one big ass statement to make. I don't really like the Ifs in valorant but karon coming into tier 1 from ranked and dropping that masterclass and mako being top class from 2021 masters berlin is kinda hard to be topped. So idk how to answer your question tbh.

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yayvsboaster

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that is what i said (if papi was from starting in T1)

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lead_water_enjoyer

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he is saying that the bar set up by mako and karon is too high rn. Papi hasn't even played a single stage in tier 1, pipe it down a little.

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ArterieX

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dpends on the team actually

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no

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xineFso

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delusional as fuck

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jimjam789

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u would never catch mako and karon going negative against naos and boom lmfao

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Kim_Minjii

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What is this guy talking about