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Hardest rank to get out of

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#1
Aladeenn

Saw a thread in which people were discussing the hardest rank to get out off
and I gotta say, it isn't gold, its ascendant

This is my main: https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Aladeen%23bhsdk/overview

This is my alt: https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/lesbian%20lakhan%23ezz/overview

I play on my alt with my friends or to triple queue with my friends
And i gotta say, ASC is hella hard to get out off, idk why but cant even read the opponents

#2
Hakujitsu
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Nah bro I stuck at bronze 💀

#3
smthlikeyou11
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immortal is the only right answer

edit: if u think getting out of asc is hard going from immo to rad is exponentially higher lmfao, both from a skills viewpoint objectively and from a comparitive viewpoint

edit 2: the skill floor of immortals is already higher than the skill ceiling of ascendants, but thats not the point
from just rr alone: asc1-imm is just 300rr. from imm1-rad is often 650rr-700rr AT LEAST. not just that, but at imm3 u would consistently face absolute ranked freaks that just play out of their fucking mind for no reason and just win every single duel. that and ur fighting against everyone else to be top500 in ur entire region. that is MUCH much harder than asc-imm lol
and even if u just look at stats theres less radiants than immortals so obviously asc is not the hardest rank

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danii1
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Asc players are delusional. If you're actually good, you'll get out of ascendant. If not, then you're just not good enough for immortal. It's simple. Radiant is an insane grind.

#32
chrlxz
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asc is not even a hard rank to get out of immo is such a huge step up

#28
danii1
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U tell em goat

#33
Bhrubby
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Everyone in immo is literally try harding. It’s like you can’t have bad days cuz you’ll be back asc quick.

#4
SAMPV6
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Ascendant is hell, people don't listen and all think they're Tenz's second coming, then you see them take the most braindead decisions and blame YOU for it.

#23
SHD4
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Sounds like plat to me

#5
Galactc
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As a plat player who has to play with ascendants sometimes I kinda feel you they're all so shit and have giant egos

#20
Aladeenn
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Yeah exactly

#30
uwukitten
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if I was playing with plats I'd have a big ego too

#31
Galactc
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Nah because I play in full ascendant lobbies not with just 1 or 2

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elysxxm
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Ascendant to immortal is harder than immortal to radiant, sure radiant is hard but atleast majority of people in immortal somewhat care, ascendant is
10% wanna rank up
70% already hit immortal and dont care abt their rank anymore
10% throwing/hacking/afk
10% no com brain dead run it down duelist
Im immortal now and you can easily hit imm2 with just some luck and a Winstreak

In immortal aslong as your doing good you can rank up, but in ascendant it's mostly up to whether ur team wants to win or not

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Galactc
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Also Immortal to radiant isn't difficult it's just a grind and honestly anyone who reaches immortal 3 can do it if they have unlimited time on their hands and a 3-stack

#8
Anti-fakenews
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This actually shows you have no idea how the ranks work and have never been an immortal. You can not 3-stack in immortal

#9
Galactc
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Well yeah I don't to be honest but I still believe what I said ascendant is definitely harder to get out of

#12
Anti-fakenews
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It's not.
Immortal is exponentially tougher. You need 600 rr to go from immortal 1 to radiant. You get 12+ or 13+ and lose around 18 each game depending on the mmr;
if you are unlucky you get f0rfucksaken and jong duo-ing in the opponent. There's a reason why all your youtube courses and guides end at immortal. Radiant takes so much grind. Anyone with 144 or 240 Hz can get immortal.

#13
Aayan
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I haven't been immo so I wouldn't know this

does rr not reset between immo 1 and immo 3? (like in every other rank)
I thought you get the 0/100 progress bar until immo 3, and from then it starts counting from 0
am I mistaken?

#15
Anti-fakenews
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No. 0 rr is immortal 1 80 is immortal 2 200 is immortal 3. Radiant has a minimum which starts at 400 in apac You need to be top 500 above 400. By the end of the act it usually goes to 650 in apac. EU is much higher as bigger player base.

#19
Aayan
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Ah I see interesting, thanks
so practically there's an invisible rank above immo and radiant since the gap between immo 3 and Rad is on avg 300 rr (at least in EU)

#24
AKIRA1988
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Mid season is like 650 eu its so fucked. I saw a tweet of some guy hitting immo in Na and being top 7k, I hit immo and was only on the leaderboard after 2 wins in like top 14k xd

#17
Galactc
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Do all the boosted garbage just stop at ascendant or something and maybe I just have a different meaning to difficulty but just because it's a grind doesn't mean it's difficult because immortal to radiant is sounds like it's just a long grind where you get a 51% win rate or something an then hit radiant either right at the start or end of the act

#25
AKIRA1988
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You cant get radiant from immo 1 on a 51% winrate. You would need to have a really good winrate in radiant mmr before that to even get there. I think your first season in immo1 ( ofc depends on how you pefrorm but for most real players) will be 12/15 rr wins and 18/23 rr losses, where u are not trying to push rank but just improve mmr so later you can work your way up.

#27
elysxxm
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The rr gain/loss in ascendant is also pretty bad. It's not as drastic as immortal but you lose 19-22 per game and get 14-17 per win.
If your good enough to hit radiant, you'll probably hit it atleast once in the act
If your good enough for immortal in ascendant it's just luck of the draw, even if you go onba streak you still get ascendant teammates in immortal and it's a shitshow trying to stay immortal or get in immortal.

#29
Anti-fakenews
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Yeah. I just mean that would always be the case if u are hard-stuck in any rank.

I'll elaborate a bit more: You rr gain or loss is dependent on your hidden mmr. Your rr is always trying you to pull up or down to the hidden mmr. If your hidden mmr is higher than your current rank you will gain more and it will pull u up and vice-versa. Once, you are hard-stuck, you will have harder time to get out of it; as your mmr will always keep you pulling down.

Which is why immortal is hell as you need to gain 600 rr to escape it.

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composthe
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asc players arent even good, getting out of low imm elohell is the hardest

#14
GrimmjowJaegerjaquez
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main account # and alt account name are kinda hilarious.

#21
Aladeenn
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haha ty men xD

#16
Anti-fakenews
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Bro mumbai is the easiest sever to play and win on. If u have a decent PC with 144 or 240 Hz. The problem is with you my friend

#18
Taruuu1
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its immortal

#22
Aayan
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its usually subjective, the only real exception being immo tbh

some people will have an easier time ranking up in different ranks
for example when I was really trying to rank up I spent 8 months in silver, 8 months in gold, 6 months in plat and only 2 in diamond

https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Aayan%232005/performance (sort by month)

I pretty much stopped trying between Jan 2023 - Jun 2024 because of A levels (exams)

I've kinda stopped playing now since I just have no motivation tbh, I wanna go for immo but it seems so far away

#26
Anguibok
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Iron, in every other rank you just have to play bad purposefully to get out your rank.

#34
kapteN
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I mean immortal is the obvious answer but I feel like this really isn't part of the discussion here as you're really just fighting for 500 spots with all the other sweats who are grinding hard.

So if we don't consider immortal, then I would say it's ascendant.

Most ascendant players have already hit immortal 1/2/3 in the past, don't really care too much for ranking up and therefore the mental seems to be worse than in other ranks. Since it's full of ex-immortal players, the average aim in the rank tends to be quite good, so from just destroying aim-wise you will not necessarily consistently win a great % of your games unless you're ofc super cracked mechanically. Teamplay is very inconsistent due to the fact that the drive to rank up may be somewhat lower than in some of the lower ranks below it

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