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crocodilemaniac

My friend and I are travelling to japan on holiday and we are visiting the common tourist cities (kyoto, osaka and Tokyo) but I also want to visit another city along the path between tokyo and osaka. Any cities you guys highly recommend visiting?

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danii1
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I wish I could go to Japan...

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crocodilemaniac
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just get a job, save up and leave your worries behind...

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danii1
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That's a very nice way of saying it. But I'm still a high schooler.

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crocodilemaniac
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same bro just graduated high school like a month ago

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danii1
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Where are u from?

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crocodilemaniac
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i'm living in new zealand

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danii1
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Oh wow..
How expensive is it to go to Japan from there?
Cuz in Europe it's like a luxury to go to Japan

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crocodilemaniac
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so basically my friend and I have spent around 1.8k NZD for flights to japan + taiwan. Right now we are estimating 5k NZD (excluding shopping) for our trip in total but we have yet to book accommodation, tickets for Disneyland + other destination and train stuff.

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new sheepland mentioned

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crocodilemaniac
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I wonder how many new zealanders are lurking on this site

#53
Jinxypoo
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not that many

#67
Tstr
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Im here

#73
munestar
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used to live there 😺

#74
crocodilemaniac
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auckland or what?

#3
z12
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My friend and I*

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danii1
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Bro.

#5
crocodilemaniac
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Sorry boss

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z12
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😭 mb

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Kk0bra1101
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Was this really necessary

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danii1
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No. It really wasn't.

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z12
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think of this as a bump of some sort

#13
danii1
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Imma bump u buddy

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Kk0bra1101
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I'm legit speachless

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Elso
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Bro is the definition of well actually.

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BabyWizard
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Hi Elsa

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bronzil_enjoyer
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bro is now copying me

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BabyWizard
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nuh uh

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WhoAsked
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki

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missueveryday_
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The place of historical

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crocodilemaniac
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what do you recommend we do in these two?

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Is this a serious question?

#51
crocodilemaniac
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I meant what are your personal recommendations. Ofcourse I could go and search up what are some popular tourist destinations in Hiroshima and Nagasaki but I was just curious if they had any things they enjoyed seeing in particular

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missueveryday_
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These two places have a really interesting story about WW2, you should search up and find some information before you go there.

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WhoAsked
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we are visiting* the

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danii1
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STOP BULLYING HIM

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crocodilemaniac
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sorry sir

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geospliced
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I'm visiting Japan too and I'm also going to Osaka and Tokyo. Maybe check out Nara and Uji?

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danii1
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Oooo sounds funnn

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crocodilemaniac
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oh we are for sure visiting nara. Do you mind sharing which cities/destinations/tourist spots you are really excited to visit?

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geospliced
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I haven't planned too much (I'm visiting in June), but I've got all my pre-Osaka plans done (I'm going to Okinawa to see the aquarium)

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crocodilemaniac
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oooh sounds fun

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Yamanashi, you can go to Fuji-Q Highland.

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crocodilemaniac
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thanks for the suggestion, will look into it

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kiyuri
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go to Nagano if you want to explore country side of japan (it's super cold in winter tho)

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crocodilemaniac
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you reckon end of jan - late feb still too cold?

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kiyuri
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yeah it's pretty cold and most likely snowing there. but there are a lot of beautiful location to visit

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LULE
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Aichi, Shizuoka or Yamanashi is nice

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crocodilemaniac
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thanks, we will look into that

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idk if its tokyo-osaka with bullet its def gonna be nagoya and shizuoka if you dont enclude kyoto.
and im a tokyo guy so i have like zero knowledge cuz i never traveled anywhere

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crocodilemaniac
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thanks for the suggestion

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definitely nagoya, maybe hit up aomori if you dont need to explicitly choose something between tokyo-osaka.

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crocodilemaniac
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yeah we were looking at aomori thanks for suggestion

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saebr
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Nara deer park please

#43
crocodilemaniac
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yeah that's for sure on our itinerary. Really excited to see the deer.

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shka

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Between Tokyo and Osaka? From the top of my mind, Hakone, Kamakura, Shizuoka, maybe visit Kinosaki Onsen. And I don't agree with people saying Nagoya. You will already be experiencing everything the city has to offer in Tokyo, so why redo it in Nagoya. Maybe if you weren't on limited time it would have made sense.

Also, about Kyoto. I would recommend to avoid Kyoto all together but I get it, first time visiting Japan and everyone wants to go to Kyoto. If you're gonna go there then go to the lesser known places. Avoid the Shijo area. And if you want to go to the touristy spots then go early in the morning or late at night.
Kyoto is in a tough spot because it's suffering from overtourism. There is barely any time when there is a small crowd. Mid December would have been a good time to visit but late December, especially during the holidays and New Years, it's gonna be a mess. There is a lot more to look into when it comes to Kyoto.

And I just have to plug it, a personal bias, consider going central to Gifu and Nagano.

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crocodilemaniac
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oooh thank you so much for your experience. We are going during mid feb so we expect to see a little less tourists around but yeah. We are still deciding the time we want to spend in each city. What you say about kyoto is interesting for sure we will take it into consideration.

If you were going as a tourist with around 17 days in japan how would you divide up your time? We were originally thinking something along the lines of 8 tokyo (visit hakone too) 5 osaka 4 kyoto. Do you think we would enjoy our trip more if we visited a couple more cities along our way or to spend most our days in the big ones? Perhaps less time in Kyoto and Tokyo? Our plan is to arrive at Narita airport then leave from the kansai int airport.

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Oh! Well you can expect less people then. There is such a big mob in November and December, compared to those times February will be less crowded, but still more crowded than most other places in Japan.

I think 5 days for Tokyo is enough. Arrive at Narita and then explore Asakusa or Ueno (both can be covered in one day) for the first day as most people do. Then Shibuya, Akihabara (obviously). Dedicate a day to Hakone and go to an onsen maybe. And then for the last day in Tokyo, personally I would visit some of the quieter districts like Sangenjaya (huge plus point if you're a Persona fan), Kichijoji, Koenji has some cool clothing stores, Ebisu an absolute recommendation, Yanesen area, and so much more. Which one you should visit, depends on your personal preferences. Some of these places are great for quiet walks, observing the lower city, some has great food spots. Obviously these aren't flashy places that will blow your mind away, it's just nice to dedicate a day to these cozy places.

Tokyo is massive and could be a whole trip itself. There is just too much to cover. Once again, it depends, do you prefer urban or rural. Those who like rural would spend even less time at Tokyo. I think 5 days is a good balance.

After that you could spend a couple of days at Nikko, it's only 2 hours from Tokyo. But if you're already going to Hakone which is better than Nikko, then maybe go to Kanazawa instead. It's less crowded compared to Kyoto and easy to get around. You can take day trips to Fukui, Takayama, Toyama. There is a lot to see in Kanazawa itself.

3 days for Kyoto is enough to cover everything you would want to see in Kyoto. Kiyomizudera Temple, Imperial Palace, Fushimi Inari Taisha etc. Spend a day for a hike from Kurama to Kibune. Maybe consider going to Uji as well.

Then 2 days for Osaka should be enough. After that, you should still have some days left, which you can use to go Himeji, Kobe or Amanohashidate etc. Himeji is great if you want a mixture of everything, and Kobe is for the city vibes and food. And Amanohashidate is only if you're open to going a bit further (Approx. 2.5 hrs from Osaka). And spend the final day in Osaka just for food.

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crocodilemaniac
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wow wow wow thank you so much for taking the time to write this. I'll discuss with my friend. I'm very grateful for your suggestions haha we are both kind of useless at planning an itinerary as we haven't travelled alone before so this is great.

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arin2016
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Make sure to have a detailed itinerary. That's one of the best things you can do before visiting. Also make sure to get all the train passes sorted out, I recommend getting the 14 day JR pass although it might be a little expensive, I don't know the budget after all.

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crocodilemaniac
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yeah those jr passes are not cheap at all

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tserc
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I'm actually not Japanese lol

but I guess if u want to visit the more rural side of things I think u should check out Yamadera :)

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crocodilemaniac
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thanks for the suggestion. We are visiting in winter so it might be a little cold for us but we will look into it thank you :)

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amanohashidate, also watch abroad in japan if you haven't already. if ur only going for 2 weeks or less it might be hard to cram everything in, but more than that and you should be fine fitting in some more stops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY5W4dLZGUU&t=562s

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crocodilemaniac
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Thanks for the youtube channel, never seen them before very helpful!

#58
StalwartTiger_35
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he's really great, very informational and great sense of humor

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arin2016
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Abroad in Japan mentioned! Big vouch for Mr. Sunday Times best seller. He knows his stuff.

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If you don’t dislike seafood, I recommend Shizuoka. There are several famous fishing ports.
Also, if you don’t have too much luggage, a boat trip could be an option.
https://www.isewanferry.co.jp/en/
If you’re interested in history, exploring shrines around the Kii Peninsula might be a good idea.
https://www.hongutaisha.jp/english/)(https://www.isejingu.or.jp/en/
Enjoy your trip bro

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crocodilemaniac
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thanks so much for the suggestions, we love seafood we will definitely look into this

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its winter so hokkaido would be freakishly beautiful but its far tho depends on your schedule
also do not forget onsens

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crocodilemaniac
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yeah so so far ;-; not enough money or time to fit it in...

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Tstr
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I lived in Japan for a few years, and actually just helped a friend plan their trip which they just got back from. They had a similar length trip and in the Kansai region they really enjoyed Kobe and Nara. I have a personal bias for Osaka as I have family there and as Im sure you know from your research good spots there to hit are USJ, the aquarium and dotonbori
If I had to recommend an activity outside of Osaka, it would have to be Nagashima spa land. Despite its waterpark being closed this time of the year, you get a very nice Onsen experience if you book one of the park hotels. And the rollercoasters there are insanely fun.

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wow thank you for sharing! we will for sure look into the spa land. Just a question, How long would you recommend staying in Kobe if we were to visit? It seems very close to osaka so I'm curious if there is much change at all other than food and maybe the amount of people we will see.

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Kobe won't be too different, you would only need a daytrip max. Compared to Osaka, Kobe's harbour is much cleaner and less industrialized. You could get to Kobe early in the day on the way to Osaka and hang out there for a while before heading to Osaka for the evening.
In the end don't try and pack your itinerary too full too make sure you can enjoy the whole trip fully, you may think you might get bored in the same city for a while. But you will be happily surprised at how much there is to do.

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crocodilemaniac
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cool cool thank you for your experience very helpful :)

#78
H3ENnZ
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This after simp4s0m leaving lol

But enjoy ur trip man have a good time

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crocodilemaniac
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thanks man

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coltyyy
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im in tokyo japan rn, i recommend either shirakawago or kamikochi tho

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coltyyy
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shirakawago might be too far for u im not sure but sorry about kamikochi its closed during winter i forgot, u should look up about kamakura if u want the beach city or emaybe kawaguchiko if u want to see the fuji mount

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coltyyy
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crocodilemaniac
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sheesh. How long you staying and which aother cities are you visitng? I heard mt fuji might be a little hard to see during winter but we will for sure try to see it

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coltyyy
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i arrived in japan 17/12 and will be leaving on 23/12, i went to lake kawaguchi, lake tanuki i think its better than kawaguchi lake since theres less crowd but its a lake for camping so theres no store but the view was magnificent and went to gotemba premium outlet theres like ton of store there, rn we’re at kamakura. Teamlab borderless at tokyo is good to go tho its like art event and required a ticket

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coltyyy
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during our time and fuji (2days) we see full fuji on both days, btw isnt it better on february to see fuji since theres much snow at the top and more beautiful, the say we arrived at fuji theres snow there in the morning but luckily when we we arrived at afternoon its a clear sky, snow on the floor with clear fuji view is so damn good

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i recommend driving around fuji since theres are many places which less crowd and better view that u need to drive there only, like lake tanuki, lake yamanakako, fujinomiya and gotemba outlet its a outlet with fuji view if theres clear sky. you should look up with these 3

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crocodilemaniac
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thank you so much for your experience for sure will take some into account super grateful🙏🙏🙏
You might be right about being able to see mt fuji better in feb idk my friend probably feeding me wrong info.

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coltyyy
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your friend might be right too, it has low chance to see the mt. since theres many snow during that time, but i think its gonna be more beautiful if u get a chance to see fuji on that time. It’s like high risk high return kind of thing tho

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coltyyy
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this is a link thai i did research

https://www.japan-guide.com/forum/quereadisplay.html?0+152853

i recommend u spend around 2-3 days since theres a chance you cant see the fuji if theres a lot of cloud or foggy or smth.

My plan was to go to
yamanakako lake
tanuki lake
kawaguchi lake
shiraito falls
starbucks in fujinomiya tolls that has view of fuji mt.
cookie, chesscake ( its around lake kawaguchi i forgot the nane )
gotemba outlet
oishino hakkai
chureito pagoda

we didnt made yamanakako lake and starbucks and have 2 hrs at gotemba ( its not enough, you can stay there like half day if u want to go shopping or maybe even full day) because we took long time taking photo at some places

if u dont rent a car u can only make kawaguchi lake, chureito pagoda and oishino hakkai and maybe need to took bus to gotemba.

I recommend u to rent a car and stay around fuji for like 2-3 days

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thank you so much for your advice appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏

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