verno or riens

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ExoJay

if u guys had to choose who would u pick to fill the initiator role on ur team and why

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Verno if I'm an americas org riens otherwise

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TeoEmil

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Riens so he can recommend me the best donör kebabs

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Aayan

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real

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malims

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Riens for sure. He was the backbone of a team that made 2/3 international grand finals. Insane firepower and incredible utility.

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Dhrom49

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verno clears fr fr

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ihatewestjett

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How deep did NRG's dick reach down your throat

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catNmouse

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they need to pay him more chicken nuggets

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catNmouse

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riens

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AZDZ

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riens without a doubt. He has fragged heavy during multiple international tourneys last year.
insane util and clutch.

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Verno if you're a Americass muncher

Riens if you have a brain

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RacNT

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Riens easily, verno is great but hes still not played a real t1 match. You gotta wait until the americas playoffs to decide if hes really that good

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ExoJay

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fair, riens was doing it all last year

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idkbro

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riens mainly because of his personality, personalities like Riens are key if u wanna win trophies, if u combine that with him being a God at the game then he is a cheatcode of a player

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Almighty

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Who is verno

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catNmouse

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player for nrg

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We have yet to watch how verno performs at internationals . Can't compare for now. Reins have proven himself . I think he's 2nd best initiator after Leo . Maybe even equal to him at peak .

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KyLZi

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Leo isn't losing to m8 like that though. Being honest

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catNmouse

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m8 are a way better team than last year

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KyLZi

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True but we are talking about Leo. I don't think Leo goes -7 against them.

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catNmouse

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i can cherry-pick too! leo went -9 against fut on the decider map of shanghai

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Oil_up_buddy

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One look at the comps would tell him that heretics weren't even trying .

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catNmouse

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they were experimenting but to say they weren’t trying is kind of in genuine, they were playing at their home crowd

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KyLZi

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it's a normal conversation. Why go to insulting me so quickly?

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Oil_up_buddy

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My bad . I thought you were baiting

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Oil_up_buddy

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Seriously. You think heretics tried at all ? Look at their comps .

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KyLZi

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Sure, good point. I think i actually agree at peak riens can compare with Leo

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Cacachocolat

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Showmatch + he was not on his usual role + M8 now have a good roster on paper.

Anything else?

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Too early to compare, but Verno is consistent and a solid performer on Cypher Sova Fade. Always impressive. He also plays Jett sometimes on stream and he's a pretty good duelist as well, crazy.

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n1cf

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this shit shouldnt even be a question

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catNmouse

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riens my humble turkish goat clears ez

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Itsover

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Agreed, verno clears way too hard

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Twentytwo

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Riens ez, after watching enough NRG matches safe to say verno is a baiter and a stats player

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AloneSolstice

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riens

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frizery

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crashies

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nobody___100

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facts

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RieNs easily, but Verno has insane talent and I'm sure he will achieve a lot in his career (if NRG doesn't sabotage themselves of course)

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Verno easily, riens lost to botpac and China in both finals and looked mid af.

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cohnr

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Rapid Lofi

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Itsover

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Gentle bots

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cohnr

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TSM

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catNmouse

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he was the best player vs geng but struggled to perform vs nats #1 fanboy chichoo and rest of edg

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Two_Percent

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riens is a very good sova/breach, verno is good at everything

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catNmouse

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riens gekko is also very good, he’s not bad at the viper either

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Two_Percent

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yeah his gekkos alright

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Azzelastia

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Verno without a doubt.

#43

destroylonely

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Riens has a better understanding of the initiator role and is proven internationally

Verno is more flexible and has slightly better mechanics

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Denjisideals

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Riens

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TM06Nick

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riens had so many insane plays at masters/champs in 2024

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z12

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id pick stax over those bums

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Alint

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how has dort not commented yet

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Riens because humble goat