list your top 5 respective in their roles

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kalayav_n

Duelist: aspas, kangkang, zekken, somethingg, derke
Initator: c0m, cauan, shao, chron, riens; HM: sheydos my goat
Flex: d4v4i/forsaken, patitek, mazino, something, saadhaak
Sentinel: LESS, nAts, tex, forsaken/d4v4i, hiro
Controller: s0m, valyn, kiNgg, tuyz, karon

upcoming HM: k4dvara, autumn, fengf, kai, oxy, t3xture, bang, sayf and purp0

there are alot of good playes that i dont have in my top5 so it doesnt mean i think they are trash, or that i hate them.

list yours

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somethingg over texture in big 2024
no leo initiator (understandable because he didnt play half of 2024 but he's still up there no matter what)

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kalayav_n

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dont be shy list yours then

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idkmanwth

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duelist: kangkang, texture, zekken, aspas, derke
initiator: reins, leo, trexx, caunzin, c0m
flex: chron, mazino, patitek, wo0t, meteor
sentinels: "davai/forsaken, tex and nAts" for "alfa, benjy, chichoo"
controller: karon, valyn, tenz (even though 1 agent, completely reliable to perform), smoggy, kingg/tuyz

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kalayav_n

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🤦‍♂️

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zekken and kangkang over aspas lol
initiator: good
flex: ass
sentinels: ass
controller: karon, smoggy.tenz

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idkmanwth

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not in a given order, plus i believe atleast zekken had a better year than aspas

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Zekken, KK and T3xture are allbetter than Aspas and had better years than him your brazilian bias dosen't lets you see this.

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saebr

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Trashpas statpas baiterpas 🐍🐍🐍🐍sssstatpass

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catNmouse

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t3xture > something

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kalayav_n

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your telling me you've watched somethingg and texture and you came out thinking texture is better

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BRO? your high if you watched them and thought something was better lmfao. something didn't even perform the whole year and he was alr in 2023 but that's was cause PRX had prime jinggg on raze. something as a duelist is good but not anywhere near top 5 lmfao

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catNmouse

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because he is?

one guy is composed and doesn’t overheat and still manages to get many impact frags while the other guy overheats way too much and mostly does not get impact out of it. on top of that t3xture can play both jett AND raze which are useful agents

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F0rsaken on sentinel is crazy 😂😂

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kalayav_n

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prx and their roles are weird but when forsaken is on senti hes that guy esp with the iq of his timings and lurks

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Good points actually. Remind me of somthing debut games, he played kj and outshined smthg cause he got 2 aces 😂

And his chamber is insane too at the time

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kalayav_n

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sorry english not my first language so i am lost in what "Remind me of somthing debut he played kj and overshined smthg debut cause he got 2 aces " means but if you can provide a clip id prob clear it up. and yeah hes insane man

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Kaito_M8

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Talking about this game here

https://www.vlr.gg/184468/t1-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2023-pacific-league-w3

Just search somethings prx debut game against T1 on YT, somethings actually played decent, but he get a little bit outshined by forsaken KJ. I beleive its forsaken first KJ games too thats why casters & people got more hype on him

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kalayav_n

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ohh okay thanks for linking, thats actually crazy but yeah forsaken alot of people really underrate him

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Kaito_M8

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Something over texture is crazy

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kalayav_n

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lit better duelist but alright...

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Veri

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Duelist: aspas, kangkang, zekken, t3xture, derke
Initiator: leo, cauanzin, trexx, narrate, riens
Flex: forsaken, woot, mazino, chronicle, meteor
Sentinel: LESS, alfajer, chichoo, benjy, shy
Controller: smoggy/chichoo, valyn, kiNgg, tuyz, karon

this is coming into 2025 btw, all time would be a lot different

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kalayav_n

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i dont think either smoggy or chichoo are better than s0m kingg valyn tuyz or karon..
leo hasnt played this year and might not next year but he would make the list for me so W
woot doesnt make any top 5 list just my opinion and benjy should never be in a top 5 list

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Veri

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the funny thing is that i actually agree with you on the smoggy and chichoo take. However, smoggy was by far the best player of champs group stage and chichoo was undeniably the best performing smokes player of the whole event, its no surprise they won the damn thing. So like, even though i still dont think that those 2 are better than the ones you mentioned, i just have to accept reality and say that yes, they are definitely in better form for 2025 (and they have more succesfull carees already if that means anything)

same thing goes for woot and benjy

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kalayav_n

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in that case yeah i agree with you man, kangkang was better than aspas that series; those fucking buying ops rounds on attack hurt me alot

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not in order
Duelist: aspas, kangkang, zekken, t3xture, derke
Initator: leo, trexx, rossy, chron, riens
Flex: forsaken, woot, mazino, invy, jitboys
Sentinel: LESS, nAts, tex, primmie, benjy
Controller: s0m, valyn, kiNgg, bang, karon

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saynotoherpes

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just copied and modified your list so I might have missed something obvious

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kalayav_n

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i like the list apart from benjy leo(hasnt played and we dont even know if he his this year), bang over tuyz has to be insane, rossy and no cauan? woot is also abit crazy and who invited invy and jitboys

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saynotoherpes

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benjy

carried th, one of their best players and I really cant think of a better senti

leo(hasnt played and we dont even know if he his this year)

bro is still the goat even when he is dying on stage

bang over tuyz has to be insane

idk about bang but def not tuyz

rossy and no cauan

read above+my arab prince

who invited invy and jitboys

chronic lack of knowing ball
overall 3/8 dogshit adjustments

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kalayav_n

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forget what hes done for TH, you are building a team and you have the option to pick ANY senti. if benjy comes across your mind, you need a MRI scan

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kalayav_n

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blink twice if frost has you held hostage

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saynotoherpes

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no I would never be held hostage and forced to post bad takes on vlr that would never happen where I am locked in a basement in oklahoma being forced to post on vlr

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kalayav_n

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https://imgur.com/a/VgljryO

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UrWaifu

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upcoming igl flex goat: Shiro

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kalayav_n

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this guy? https://www.vlr.gg/player/10739/shiro

might stay up at 2 am to watch him play ngl

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UrWaifu

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yes, dont force urself tho u can just watch the VOD :D

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kalayav_n

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i like to watch it live, i believe that me yelling at my screen to my favorite team has an impact and helps them win because clearly they can hear me through the screen

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UrWaifu

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agreed, boom might be my fav since lot of peoples r doubting em just like RRQ. its always fun to support the dark horse

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kalayav_n

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justice for monyet, both boom and rrq will win

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Hobbit

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aspas is the best jett

not the best duelist

thats all im gonna say

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kalayav_n

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took derke for a nice walk out in the park

https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

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Hobbit

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that bum isn't in fnatic anymore

nah but fr I'd put t3xture and kang kang higher than aspas

also, what is something doing there?

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kalayav_n

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something is better than texture sadly derke was ur best player and rip to whoever your plug is

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Hobbit

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something is better than texture

I've seen enough vlr for today

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Veri

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jett was his worst agent this year btw

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Duelist: aspas , zekken , something , t3xture , TenZ
Initiator: Chronicle , Sacy , Riens , c0m , N
Flex: Chronicle , f0rsaken , Sheydos , david , TenZ
Sentinel: nAts , johnqt , ardiis ( sage on bind ) , hiro , less
Controller: TenZ , Karon , bang , Redgar , zombs

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Redgar? Zombs? Johnqt? , ardiis? Hiro? Wtf

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I have taken a lot of things into account like international trophies and international position finishes, consistency over the years , time for which they have played , I have given at places better positions to players in the current and newer game meta rather than older one due to there not being deep analysis at that time like rn, etc
Duelist- Aspas, kangkang, derke, texture , zekken
( Hm - jingg, demon1, keznit, buzz)
Sentinel - Alfajer, less, suygetsu , meteor, Nats
( Hm - davai, Benjyfishy, yetujey, leaf, chichoo)
Controller - Pancada, Mako, Boo, smoggy, valyn
( Hm - som, kingg, tuyz , monyet, sScaryQ)
Initiator - Leo, Ethan, forsaken, Riens, woot
(Hm - narrate, zest, Trent , cauznin, jonah p)

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chichoo/smoggy should get a shout definitely for controller

chichoo highest rated omen (keep in mind he’s played 100 rounds) and had good util usage to make up for it in champs

smoggy was their best player in shanghai and a beast in champs especially with the clove; he was still good on other controller agents though

smoggy switched to controller the same time kinggg did just for your information

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kalayav_n

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if you mentioned abyss i wouldve lost my mind

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catNmouse

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lool i would’ve but chichoo performed in the important match

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Duelist: aspas, kangkang, zekken, Ange1, derke
Initator: c0m, cauan, shao, chron, riens; HM: Agne1 my goat
Flex: d4v4i/forsaken, patitek, mazino, Ange1, saadhaak
Sentinel: LESS, nAts, Ange1, forsaken/d4v4i, hiro
Controller: s0m, valyn, kiNgg, Ange1, karon

upcoming HM: k4dvara, Ange1, fengf, kai, ardiis, t3xture, bang, sayf and purp0

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catNmouse

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don’t think ange1 will be controller

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BME_JERRYCHAPULIN

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Duelist: Govenor, Deryeon, Primmie, PatrickWHO, Jawgemo
Initator: Lmemore, Blazek1ng, Shiro, NOZWERR, Chronclie
Flex: d4v4i/forsaken, Zellsis, Monyet, Deryeon, saadhaak
Sentinel: XFERRO, Yay, Tex, Jinggg (You Will See), Benkai 2022
Controller: Mako, Monyet, RGLMeister, tuyz, karon

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femboyenjoyer

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Duelist : t3xture, zekken, aspas, derke, kk
initiator: chronicle, sha0, riens, w00t, f0rsaken (leo instead of shao if he was playing rn)
sentinel: yay, alfa, less, chichoo, nAts
controller: marved marved marved marved

no order btw

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kanyefan4238173

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Duelist: kangkang, zekken, aspas, Derke, mada
Initiator: trexx, riens, shao, leo, invy
Controller: Karon, grubinho, valyn, smoggy, mako (sayf overtaking someone this season)
Sentinel: meteor, Chichoo, less, flashback, Sheydos
Flex: chronicle, verno, wo0t, primmie, d4v41

Not counting role changes to be made. Like Sheydos to initiator and sayf to smokes

HM: supamen, shyy, t3xture

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i know you’re biased but t3xture and mada should be switched